To feel utterly miserable about a future with Andy Burnham as PM?

[OneWarmHazelQuail]

I feel like I'm being stung in every possible way at the moment- £15 a day on tube to work, high mortgage costs, high energy costs, private schooling for SEN child (I was told state wouldn't be unlikely to assist him as he isn't mute or violent). My parents have had to help fund schooling it felt like my only hope as son has behavioural issues.

I also have an unsold old home that I have to rent out as it wouldn't sell. Buy-to-let mortgage costs, agent fees, maintenance and tax put me in a loss position.

I can't bear what the future holds with Andy Burnham. I have no doubt that he will find new and imaginative ways to keep me in this financial nightmare. I'm literally struggling from food poverty but regarded as rich by policy.

YABU- Andy Burnham is actually going to make things better

YANBU- I'm screwed

That's total nonsense. Multiple worldwide economies are tailing downwards over the same time period. We are very likely to hit a worldwide recession, made worse by Trump's stupid war on Iran.
People have such short memories of the 14 years or stagnation under the Tories. The reality is that many people have seen their quality of life deteriorate for over 20 years under a mixture of politicians.

I mean - it’s still a Labour government - we’re all fucked. Doesn’t matter if it’s KS or this dude.

Even if you don’t feel sorry for op, we cannot expect magical solutions from Andy Burnham. Labour should have let Starmer finish his term. 2 years are not enough to deliver given the funding deficit and major global issues impacting all countries across the globe. Not sure there was a need to add political instability to the already difficult situation.

I understand that Reeves is as ‘conservative’ as they can be in the Labour Party, so the markets were comfortable for her to stay, that’s why she wasn’t removed. If they had replaced her with anyone more left leaning it would have blown up the markets. Our borrowing costs are absolutely sky high as it is.

The problem is Reeves and most of the Labour Party are utterly useless, they have no idea how to stimulate growth, they have no plan whatsoeve and we are stagnating as a country in a pool of talentless, helpless incompetence.

Things will get much worse with Burnham before they get better. I hope we can survive however long that takes, and they don’t bankrupt the country in the meantime. There is already talk of IiMF intervention.

How do you know she is asking too much? You are making assumptions.

I don’t think one man can reverse what appears to be a nation in decline. I don’t understand how change can happen, but I’d be prepared to listen to someone with a thought through plan. Anyone promising short term gains would worry me..

Why do the two of you assume that things will get better once Labour are out of office? Were things good under the Tories?! Do you think Reform will do anything better and, if so, what?! There has been a very long decline in the UK economy. This is not something that has come about in the last 2 years.

This poster you are quoting is not Op. Op did not say last 2 years were the worst government period in recent times.

Why do you think the house would not sell? Either there is something seriously wrong with the house or area (unlikely as she is renting it out) or she was unwilling to lower the price enough, which is far more likely. If there was an issue such as cladding, she would likely have mentioned it.

Honestly the country is skint. We all need to pay more tax. All of us. The only way to raise enough is for us all to pay.

1p on the basic rate this year.
1p on the basic rate next year
1p on the basic rate in 2028.

Its honestly the only way to get enough money in.

And stop yakking on about large corporates or the rich paying more.

Large corporates are not responsible for the tax gap. Small businesses amd sole traders are. There arent actually that many rich people and they are already paying a lot.

He is too Manchester focused, he is not for the country, just the middle band he calls the north

So why did your party want Starmer to go if most of the problems were created by Tory and external forces? Why Andy B was needed to replace him?

Imagine a government with Ed Milliband as chancellor!!

Will be interesting to see where the economy is in 12 months.

Or the market is such that she would be forced to sell at a loss?

Looks like a bloodless coup, 20000+ people vote for an MP, 300+ MPs voted for 1 PM , 1 PM picks a cabinet and shazam a new government,

Did anyone ask 40+ million UK voters what they wanted?

I’d say there’s a much better chance he’s a lot more in touch with the average person than anyone who precedes him… hopefully true labour through and through

That happens sometimes. There is no guarantee that says everyone will always make a profit. Some people are having to accept losses. If she has been able to buy another house since then, she clearly has a large degree of financial flexibility!

You think we'll be demanding the return of Boris Johnson? He should be in prison.

Well I like Burnham and have a lot of time for him. The man donated part of his salary to the homeless in Manchester for years, he did an awful lot for the Hillsborough families, he’s helped Manchester an awful lot and I think it’ll be great to have a fresh face with a regional accent in charge for once. I find him humble and real, he isn’t poncey and elitist. Always appreciated the fact his kids went to state school too, he isn’t fake humble.

Yes but still labour wanted Andy B to replace Starmer. Makes no sense.

OP your post is so out of touch with the problems that affect the majority of the country that I'm not even sure if it's a windup tbh

This is either satire or a stark reminder that financial literacy and basic comprehension is severely lacking in this country…

Two-homes Quail, with her private school educated child (and parents who can help foot the bill), doesn’t like that the choices she has made are expensive and is blaming a man who hasn’t even started the job yet.

YABVU

You own two homes when many can’t afford one and can afford private edification.Both should be expensive, second home owners stop others from owning one home and private education causes huge inequalities.

I have 3 children with SENs and reserve my concerns for people like us who could never afford private education and those who struggle to afford one home that is their own. Burnham is far more likely to help these groups than anybody else. The Tories/ Reform who caused the SEND crisis and only care about their rich friends definitely won’t.

This is a such a silly conversation.
Andy Burnham isn’t going to radically change anything, he’s not some messiah in any way, whether you want left or right reforms.
He is literally just a new leader of the Labour Party.
I voted Labour because their policies align to my opinions about society and looking after the vulnerable.
If your strongest feeling is about individualism you are not going to be better or worse off just because the Labour Party changed its leader. You are going to be constantly pissed off anyway. You are going to spend the next three years frothing about how hard done by you are. That’s individualism for you.
Andy Burnham isn’t not going to be better, or worse for you.

Labour are rapidly kicking the aspiration out of this country one day at a time.