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To feel utterly miserable about a future with Andy Burnham as PM?

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OneWarmHazelQuail · Yesterday 01:23

I feel like I'm being stung in every possible way at the moment- £15 a day on tube to work, high mortgage costs, high energy costs, private schooling for SEN child (I was told state wouldn't be unlikely to assist him as he isn't mute or violent). My parents have had to help fund schooling it felt like my only hope as son has behavioural issues.

I also have an unsold old home that I have to rent out as it wouldn't sell. Buy-to-let mortgage costs, agent fees, maintenance and tax put me in a loss position.

I can't bear what the future holds with Andy Burnham. I have no doubt that he will find new and imaginative ways to keep me in this financial nightmare. I'm literally struggling from food poverty but regarded as rich by policy.

YABU- Andy Burnham is actually going to make things better

YANBU- I'm screwed

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OneHardyBiscuit · Yesterday 09:02

OneWarmHazelQuail · Yesterday 08:46

Read all my posts and tell me if you still think this is genuinely tone deaf privilege.

Perhaps I'm blinded by the fact that I'm struggling so badly and can't see a way out

You're struggling badly! 😂 . Touch grass and look into the real world and see ordinary people struggling!!!

SummerPeonies2026 · Yesterday 09:03

Laurmolonlabe · Yesterday 09:01

"Crashed the economy" it was already crashed, we have had a moribund economy for years , only the City has kept us afloat, and that has been handicapped by Brexit- losing all the Euro trade,and bond market.
The Tories were in for 14 years and we struggled more every year for the whole term- really your memory is so short you don't remember?

Where is labours plan for prosperity????

It Is nowhere to be seen.

Minusone · Yesterday 09:03

Credittocress · Yesterday 04:15

i don’t mind politicians doing things I disagree with because they think it’s best. I do mind when it’s driven by spite, envy or chippiness. That’s what I hate about Burnham. I don’t think his policies are costed or thought through- I think they are revenge on the south.

Revenge for what?

hettie · Yesterday 09:04

Cathandkin · Yesterday 08:51

Sometimes, when you're in the middle of it, you can't see it. Come off MN and contact your GP.
You can join threads about children who need support, or you can also get support for your MH, but in the meantime, try to get some constructive help.
MNHQ have online resources and I've contacted them for you.
🧡

I echo this. You're burnt out and the state systems surrounding you that were supposed to support have been hollowed out since Osborne's austerity. The cuts to local authority provision were savage. Early help in our city virtually disappeared , educational psychologist and behavioural support specialists disappeared, groups and centres for kids and parents lost funding.
As a result the threadbare services are under staffed by people who are also burnt out and suffering a great deal of moral injury. Navigation of these fragmented services is impossible and the thresholds high. Government of all stripes have failed you and your child but ranting about Burnham isn't productive problem solving.
Make yourself a nuisance at your GP until they refer you for help-you not your kid.. Talking therepies are accessible in london for free and its not all cbt (but you might find that useful). Use some of the parental resources to hire an advocate or seek private support for diagnosis and plans. Make sure they are registered reputable and recognised by statutory bodies as this will support EHCP. Stop worrying about the macro (politics). Get in touch with Autistica and get on the SEND boards here. Lots of people have empathy for your position as they've been there. You'll get good advice.
Big hugs and good luck on the journey.

HumberSquid · Yesterday 09:04

sashh · Yesterday 05:43

You have a job.
You own two properties.
You have a child in a private school.

And you think you are in a financial nightmare?

This.

And who told you that your child wouldnt get assistance in State education because he wasnt mute or violent? Did you think of fact checking that? It's nonsense.

Poor rich women who has to pay for public transport and her second house (it will sell if you lower the price enough).

AnonyMumAuDHD · Yesterday 09:04

OneWarmHazelQuail · Yesterday 07:22

I have an asset on paper that I am unable to sell.

The SEN situation is bad enough that my husband and I, at our lowest ebb, both contemplated suicide. People often underestimate how difficult SEN situations are. I've done courses through the council, the autism charity, we pay for private therapies. The schooling is out of pure desperation.

Sadly you won’t get an enormous amount of sympathy here. We are in a similar position to you - asset rich but were very cash poor until recently due to 2x school fees as we also have two SEN kids, one with complex needs and significant psychiatric problems that mean we have never been able to enlist support from family and friends. No other support is ever available - you get a diagnosis and that’s it. Have also found myself contemplating ending it in the past too and am medicated and in therapy now.

Have you spoken to anyone at the NAS or citizen’s advice to ensure you are getting PIP/DLA and any other monies your child is entitled to? They are not means tested and attach to the child, not the parent processing the claim on their behalf. Opens doors for other ‘benefits’, such as qualifying for a blue badge, reduction in council tax, etc.

We used to think we shouldn’t be claiming, because of DH’s income/assets, but as soon as DD turned 18 and labour came in we decided we’d had enough. Happy to pay taxes to support those in need, but where was our help from CAMHS, the NHS etc?

Trying not to feel bitter because, in my less self indulgent moments, I realise how fortunate we are to have had enough money to try and mitigate the issues with our child and the ability to advocate for them. Many parents are not as fortunate as us and are trapped in a hostile system that seems unable or unwilling to help them.

I would count down the days until Labour are gone, but as other posters say, the issues we are facing in the UK are bigger than who is living in No 10, bigger than a left/right divide, so am not sure that whoever comes in to replace them will make much difference at this stage.

LuckyHazelFox · Yesterday 09:04

OneHardyBiscuit · Yesterday 09:02

You're struggling badly! 😂 . Touch grass and look into the real world and see ordinary people struggling!!!

How cold are you.

EasternStandard · Yesterday 09:05

thefireinyourheart · Yesterday 08:55

YABU - you choose to commute in London. You choose to live in a house that’s beyond your means. You choose to send your son to private school. These are all choices you have made that you’re blaming others for.

Have some empathy, it’s not that hard.

SadiraOfTyr · Yesterday 09:05

SummerPeonies2026 · Yesterday 08:48

It’s like you haven’t noticed the property market has entirely died. Under Labour - the housing market isn’t moving. How do you sell a house with no buyers?

I just sold my father's house - SE England - was on the market for less than three weeks before we accepted an offer. Of course there are buyers if you price a house realistically.

Laurmolonlabe · Yesterday 09:06

Where were the Conservatives plans for prosperity? I don't remeber them pleas advise.
Politics, especially these days is putting out fires, none of them have serious or long term plans for prosperity, or anything else.

walkingmycatnameddog · Yesterday 09:06

And here we go again not giving anyone a chance, not even in the job yet. Drives me mad, messages like this are making this country ungovernable because no one gets a chance. GN can often be worse than the media and it makes such uncomfortable reading at times. I have no allegiance to any party so I’m not banging any particular drum.

LuckyHazelFox · Yesterday 09:06

HumberSquid · Yesterday 09:04

This.

And who told you that your child wouldnt get assistance in State education because he wasnt mute or violent? Did you think of fact checking that? It's nonsense.

Poor rich women who has to pay for public transport and her second house (it will sell if you lower the price enough).

OP, I really would get off this thread because it's going to do nothing for your mental wellbeing. A bunch of spiteful random keyboard warriors are going to drag you down more ❤️

thefireinyourheart · Yesterday 09:06

EasternStandard · Yesterday 09:05

Have some empathy, it’s not that hard.

I’m sorry but I just don’t have time for the hand wringing from people who actually live very nice lives but want to blame others for the choices they’ve made with their money.

Kitte321 · Yesterday 09:07

I think most of the electorate is fed up. I know I am. Starmer policies have been dreadful but worse than that, they didn’t stick to the manifesto. Tax rises that had not been discussed or voted on. Sleaze which left people feeling labour are a party of hypocrites.
The whole debacle has left people completely disengaged because there is a feeling of deep mistrust.
Burnham is likely to be more ‘left’ than Starmer which will give a free run to the scumbag Farage who is far too right for the majority of people.
It’s a mess. There is no pragmatism and honesty, it’s just drama and misdirection.

Naunet · Yesterday 09:08

Blueyblueyblue · Yesterday 02:05

I’m very happy to give him a chance. We need a fresh face in politics. Thank fuck we haven’t got a Conservative government. I was just reading about the fiasco surrounding PPE and all our money they wasted.

I like Burnham. He’s been amazing as mayor of Manchester. He might just be ok as PM.

Amazing? Tell that to the groom gang survivors. He's a disgusting little man.

bafta16 · Yesterday 09:08

Where's the violin? 'I send my son to private school and own a second home
You have 2 properties, you have wealthy parents, you can choose private education, you have a career.

What a joke.

Cathandkin · Yesterday 09:08

LuckyHazelFox · Yesterday 09:06

OP, I really would get off this thread because it's going to do nothing for your mental wellbeing. A bunch of spiteful random keyboard warriors are going to drag you down more ❤️

Yes, I've been advising her to get off this thread. It's not about Andy Burnham and she sees that now, she needs practical help and support.

Squirrelsarecleverbastards · Yesterday 09:08

thefireinyourheart · Yesterday 09:06

I’m sorry but I just don’t have time for the hand wringing from people who actually live very nice lives but want to blame others for the choices they’ve made with their money.

But that’s her point!

She does not make decisions about her money. She’s heavily taxed and she does not get to spend her own money.

thepariscrimefiles · Yesterday 09:08

BlueRedCat · Yesterday 08:09

Norway has a sovereign wealth fund based on drilling for oil.

we could have one of those. I’ve been saying that for years. It would turn our country around. Apparently it’s frowned upon for countries like us but seen as wonderful for counties like them!

Yes, we could have had a sovereign wealth fund like Norway but the Thatcher government used the profits from North Sea oil/gas to privatise all the nationalised utilities and introduced the 'right to buy' council houses at a massively discounted price and didn't allow councils to use the profits from council house sales to build new council homes. This is when the housing crisis began.

We could have been as wealthy as Norway but we aren't, thanks to Margaret Thatcher and her right wing government.

Kitte321 · Yesterday 09:10

HumberSquid · Yesterday 09:04

This.

And who told you that your child wouldnt get assistance in State education because he wasnt mute or violent? Did you think of fact checking that? It's nonsense.

Poor rich women who has to pay for public transport and her second house (it will sell if you lower the price enough).

This is disgusting. Stop being such a sanctimonious know it all.

PenelopePinkerton · Yesterday 09:10

ZenNudist · Yesterday 05:38

Ignoring the rage bait poor little rich girl/guy.

I don't want Burnham in at number 10 but that's because
a) he was doing a great job here in Manchester and
b) Starmer was a good PM and should have been allowed to finish his project for which 5 years wasn't really long enough. We need to stop changing PM so often.
c) the Tories fucked the country so badly with austerity and Brexit that it was always going to be hard for Labour to improve our lives against a stagnating global economy and febrile geopolitical environment. There's no chance now.

Agree with point a. Wholeheartedly disagree with point b. Starmer was so bad that I left the Labour Party. In my view he is the worst Labour leader there has been so far and was totally disingenuous. Glad he has gone and I can now return to the fold.

EasternStandard · Yesterday 09:10

thefireinyourheart · Yesterday 09:06

I’m sorry but I just don’t have time for the hand wringing from people who actually live very nice lives but want to blame others for the choices they’ve made with their money.

The op is clearly finding things difficult with her dc. Read her 8.53 post.

thefireinyourheart · Yesterday 09:11

Squirrelsarecleverbastards · Yesterday 09:08

But that’s her point!

She does not make decisions about her money. She’s heavily taxed and she does not get to spend her own money.

Yes she does.

She has two houses - choice.

She has a mortgage that’s too much for her - choice.

She sends her son to private school - choice.

If I came on here as a minimum wage worker and said that I was fed up of having no money, my spending habits would be reviewed and dragged through the mud. Why do the same standards not apply to the wealthy?

LuckyHazelFox · Yesterday 09:11

bafta16 · Yesterday 09:08

Where's the violin? 'I send my son to private school and own a second home
You have 2 properties, you have wealthy parents, you can choose private education, you have a career.

What a joke.

The be kind brigade and their advocacy of hope not hate. Don't you just love them.

NotBluebutCerulean · Yesterday 09:11

malificent7 · Yesterday 05:55

I thpught we were on this mess partly because of Tory austerity...and Brexit?

Only partly @malificent7 .
Many European countries have problems. France the taxation level is higher, they get pensions that are generous but unaffordable. But they were clever enough to invest in Nuclear power after the 1970s oil crisis this held energy prices for a while..
Germany cannot keep their railways running to time. This caused serious complications for international routes especially through Switzerland.
Europe is drifting Right, Italy, Germany, France and the Scandinavians are adopting fewer left wing policies, particularly toward migrants and defence.

Upthread someone said our problems are more than can be sorted within one parliament. Very True. Unfortunately there is little sign that Labour understands the problems. They have done NOTHING to start reducing them. After two years there is no policy to help grow the economy now or in the near future.

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