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To feel utterly miserable about a future with Andy Burnham as PM?

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OneWarmHazelQuail · Yesterday 01:23

I feel like I'm being stung in every possible way at the moment- £15 a day on tube to work, high mortgage costs, high energy costs, private schooling for SEN child (I was told state wouldn't be unlikely to assist him as he isn't mute or violent). My parents have had to help fund schooling it felt like my only hope as son has behavioural issues.

I also have an unsold old home that I have to rent out as it wouldn't sell. Buy-to-let mortgage costs, agent fees, maintenance and tax put me in a loss position.

I can't bear what the future holds with Andy Burnham. I have no doubt that he will find new and imaginative ways to keep me in this financial nightmare. I'm literally struggling from food poverty but regarded as rich by policy.

YABU- Andy Burnham is actually going to make things better

YANBU- I'm screwed

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frozendaisy · Yesterday 08:47

OneWarmHazelQuail · Yesterday 08:42

I can't even cope with him for the hours that he is at home, let alone if he was home all day.

It's so hard to see your child in such distress and not be able to help him

Video him and show the GP
Create a post on special needs boards or read some posts already there about speeding up and your legal rights on EHCP and DLA - you might be able to claim to use for therapies for him

BIossomtoes · Yesterday 08:48

SummerPeonies2026 · Yesterday 08:44

If they hadn’t gone ahead with austerity we would already be bankrupt!! Please educate yourself

I don’t need to educate myself. Economists are almost unanimous that investment would have achieved far more than austerity did. Interest rates were at rock bottom, it was the perfect time to invest, not slash and burn. Just to add insult to injury the debt only increased.

To feel utterly miserable about a future with Andy Burnham as PM?
SummerPeonies2026 · Yesterday 08:48

Mygardenshedisfallingdown · Yesterday 08:36

It's a terrible situation all round for you, but even giving the impression you might commit suicide isn't going to help anyone least of all your son or your elderly parents.
Selling at a lower price or renting it out, both are viable and will hopefully give you some lee way.

It’s like you haven’t noticed the property market has entirely died. Under Labour - the housing market isn’t moving. How do you sell a house with no buyers?

SadiraOfTyr · Yesterday 08:51

Phonicshaskilledmeoff · Yesterday 05:52

Why do you think that? Rental properties are required by the country. If she’s out her money into an isa she’d be getting growth tax free. What is the difference in your eyes?

There's no difference. Except that people with ISAs don't whine that their ISA is impossible to cash out, when what they really mean is that it hasn't gone up in value as much as they were hoping to.

Cathandkin · Yesterday 08:51

OneWarmHazelQuail · Yesterday 08:45

I think you're right. I'm not sure I realised until you said it. Thank you

Sometimes, when you're in the middle of it, you can't see it. Come off MN and contact your GP.
You can join threads about children who need support, or you can also get support for your MH, but in the meantime, try to get some constructive help.
MNHQ have online resources and I've contacted them for you.
🧡

BlueRedCat · Yesterday 08:53

BIossomtoes · Yesterday 08:48

I don’t need to educate myself. Economists are almost unanimous that investment would have achieved far more than austerity did. Interest rates were at rock bottom, it was the perfect time to invest, not slash and burn. Just to add insult to injury the debt only increased.

Why are they not slashing taxes now then to encourage that investment? My business has a billion ideas on how to grow but no cash to do so. If we halve our business rates/ni tomorrow that money would go straight back in.

OneWarmHazelQuail · Yesterday 08:53

Cathandkin · Yesterday 08:44

What are the specific problems with your son? Maybe people on here can advise and help.

He screams and shouts for multiple hours a day. Sometimes as soon as he wakes. In public he tends to just stay away from other children but if he sees them in park for example, he will often be aggressive. He also wont use a toilet at home. 2 years of 7ish sets of soiled clothes in draining. At school, he's just very quiet but not mute. They say he speaks to adults about his family. He has no other interests.

I have done autism early bird course, courses with council. Taken him to OT and Speech and Lang. They say there may need sensory issues but he doesn't seem sensitive to sound or light so it's unclear to me what the cause is.

I also have a baby daughter. She's an aversive feeder - doctors think this is due to reflux.

I just feel so lost. There doesn't seem to be any help. I use every penny I have to try and help my son but nothing works. The advice doesn't work.

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WaneyEdge · Yesterday 08:54

Blueyblueyblue · Yesterday 02:05

I’m very happy to give him a chance. We need a fresh face in politics. Thank fuck we haven’t got a Conservative government. I was just reading about the fiasco surrounding PPE and all our money they wasted.

I like Burnham. He’s been amazing as mayor of Manchester. He might just be ok as PM.

He was actually mayor of Greater Manchester. While I have no doubt he has done good for Manchester, those of us in the nine other boroughs have seen zero difference. No decent jobs, no plans to create any, town centres decimated and filled with homeless/drugs/drinkers that are intimidating to have to go past.

Public transport isn’t great, unless in city centre/south Manchester. My borough no longer has a direct service to the airport, meaning more people from here drive, rather than having to faff about changing trains in the city centre when you’ve got suitcases and it taking three times as long as the car.

He did back the campaign to save the railway ticket offices which was great. As he is now my MP, I will make an appointment to see him about the above issues.

Gloriia · Yesterday 08:54

CurlewKate · Yesterday 08:46

Why are people saying Burnham is thick? Is that another way of saying “has a northern accent”?

No, why do you think Northerners are thick or something?

It's what he says, what he does. Surely you haven't forgotten his cringeworthy performance during the pandemic?

He was a mayor. A glorified councillor. He should not be able to waltz into a top political position.

thefireinyourheart · Yesterday 08:55

YABU - you choose to commute in London. You choose to live in a house that’s beyond your means. You choose to send your son to private school. These are all choices you have made that you’re blaming others for.

BlueRedCat · Yesterday 08:55

thefireinyourheart · Yesterday 08:55

YABU - you choose to commute in London. You choose to live in a house that’s beyond your means. You choose to send your son to private school. These are all choices you have made that you’re blaming others for.

I don’t think she chose for her son have SEN and be forced to pay for that provision. That’s a very mean and harsh take

Cathandkin · Yesterday 08:56

OneWarmHazelQuail · Yesterday 08:53

He screams and shouts for multiple hours a day. Sometimes as soon as he wakes. In public he tends to just stay away from other children but if he sees them in park for example, he will often be aggressive. He also wont use a toilet at home. 2 years of 7ish sets of soiled clothes in draining. At school, he's just very quiet but not mute. They say he speaks to adults about his family. He has no other interests.

I have done autism early bird course, courses with council. Taken him to OT and Speech and Lang. They say there may need sensory issues but he doesn't seem sensitive to sound or light so it's unclear to me what the cause is.

I also have a baby daughter. She's an aversive feeder - doctors think this is due to reflux.

I just feel so lost. There doesn't seem to be any help. I use every penny I have to try and help my son but nothing works. The advice doesn't work.

Ok. You really do need some practical help and some emotional support. As I said upthread, start with the GP. I think there's a huge amount going on here.
Hopefully MN will send you some advice as well.

OneWarmHazelQuail · Yesterday 08:57

thefireinyourheart · Yesterday 08:55

YABU - you choose to commute in London. You choose to live in a house that’s beyond your means. You choose to send your son to private school. These are all choices you have made that you’re blaming others for.

How else am I meant to get to work? I can't afford to live closer. I cant afford to not work. Where else am I meant to find work. I was born and raised here.

Ridiculous post

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SummerPeonies2026 · Yesterday 08:57

thefireinyourheart · Yesterday 08:55

YABU - you choose to commute in London. You choose to live in a house that’s beyond your means. You choose to send your son to private school. These are all choices you have made that you’re blaming others for.

To be entirely balanced - the economy and life in general was much better then. No one plans to find out they have a SEN child with complex needs. No one plans for the wars, cost of living and poor decisions Reeves inflicted on us. No one plans for the housing market to tank.

GeorgeMichaelsCat · Yesterday 08:57

He'll come in, launch a load of pointless crap to try and show that he is 'changing things', will drive the county into the ground like the last Labour Government, then the Conservatives or Reform will get in.

SummerPeonies2026 · Yesterday 08:58

Op shouldn’t have to pay for a special school in the first place!

Abricot1993 · Yesterday 08:59

Lucyccfc68 · Yesterday 08:44

Wow, talk about tone deaf privilege.

You have a job
You own 2 properties
Your parents have enough money so you and your child benefit from a private education.

If you are struggling, it’s not because Burnham may become the next Prime Minister, it’s because it’s going to take longer than 2 years to recover from the shit show the Tories put us through.

If you read more of the thread you would see the OP moved to another home because of a crisis. This isn’t someone who is privileged. They are in crisis. They posted about the stress of a child who screams most of the time; they posted about committing suicide.

Cathandkin · Yesterday 09:00

OneWarmHazelQuail · Yesterday 08:57

How else am I meant to get to work? I can't afford to live closer. I cant afford to not work. Where else am I meant to find work. I was born and raised here.

Ridiculous post

This thread isn't helping you. Time to log out.
Contact the GP.

CatInTheRhombus · Yesterday 09:00

Credittocress · Yesterday 04:15

i don’t mind politicians doing things I disagree with because they think it’s best. I do mind when it’s driven by spite, envy or chippiness. That’s what I hate about Burnham. I don’t think his policies are costed or thought through- I think they are revenge on the south.

This argument is a crappy one that just wants to silence any reasonable debate though. The North has been systematically underfunded and overlooked for decades. Yet if anyone tries to level the playing field (which by definition means taking from those who have more than average) they get dismissed as spiteful or “chippy” (I never see that directed at anyone but northerners).

To those who have excess, equality will always feel like deprivation.

Greenleavesandsunshine · Yesterday 09:00

Austerity resulted in cuts to SEN provision. Brexit screwed the economy with a bit of Liz Truss and her disastrous budget. All the parties and the triple lock.
Specifically what is AB going to do to make it worse? As an SEN parent he might actually help you, the Tories actually cut provision.

BlackRowan · Yesterday 09:00

I’m really pissed off with this change but let’s be fair, these issues aren’t his making nor Starmer’s making. Most of them are the aftermath of Tory management of the country for 14 years, and yes things like Brexit (it was clearly said it would make us all poorer!), Covid, underinvestment etc. high mortgage costs are thanks to Liz Truss. Even 100K income tax cliff as far as I remember was introduced by Tories.

unfortunately it’s very hard to undo that given that we are in the lean years and energy costs are influenced by the world’s political situation so outside of UK control allthogether

Laurmolonlabe · Yesterday 09:01

LakieLady · Yesterday 08:01

Burnham is nowhere near being a "Corbynite"!

"Crashed the economy" it was already crashed, we have had a moribund economy for years , only the City has kept us afloat, and that has been handicapped by Brexit- losing all the Euro trade,and bond market.
The Tories were in for 14 years and we struggled more every year for the whole term- really your memory is so short you don't remember?

Binnyforthewin · Yesterday 09:01

Gloriia · Yesterday 08:54

No, why do you think Northerners are thick or something?

It's what he says, what he does. Surely you haven't forgotten his cringeworthy performance during the pandemic?

He was a mayor. A glorified councillor. He should not be able to waltz into a top political position.

He has also held cabinet roles. None for more than year before being moved on though. People seem to have forgotten is track record is atrocious.

hattie43 · Yesterday 09:01

Gardenandseawitch · Yesterday 08:01

No decent landlord would object to renters rights...

No and I am a decent landlord but the whole bureaucracy and the very notion that I have to go into battle if I want my property back , whatever else can someone own where the government now determines my rights to do as I wish on my own property . God knows they haven’t sorted out the leasehold scandal because of powerful rich freeholders but they’re quite happy for easy pickings on normal people .

This government has crippled aspiration to better yourself for you and your family . The message is the better you do the more we’ll take from you .

SummerPeonies2026 · Yesterday 09:02

BIossomtoes · Yesterday 08:48

I don’t need to educate myself. Economists are almost unanimous that investment would have achieved far more than austerity did. Interest rates were at rock bottom, it was the perfect time to invest, not slash and burn. Just to add insult to injury the debt only increased.

Oh do stop! You are talking BS to support your lame assertion that Labour have done well. They bankrupted us in the 70s, they more or less did the same thing in 2000s and left is penniless - hence why the conservatives were voted in, to clear up the mess. Here we go again with Burnham. It’s the same boring cycle.