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To feel utterly miserable about a future with Andy Burnham as PM?

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OneWarmHazelQuail · Yesterday 01:23

I feel like I'm being stung in every possible way at the moment- £15 a day on tube to work, high mortgage costs, high energy costs, private schooling for SEN child (I was told state wouldn't be unlikely to assist him as he isn't mute or violent). My parents have had to help fund schooling it felt like my only hope as son has behavioural issues.

I also have an unsold old home that I have to rent out as it wouldn't sell. Buy-to-let mortgage costs, agent fees, maintenance and tax put me in a loss position.

I can't bear what the future holds with Andy Burnham. I have no doubt that he will find new and imaginative ways to keep me in this financial nightmare. I'm literally struggling from food poverty but regarded as rich by policy.

YABU- Andy Burnham is actually going to make things better

YANBU- I'm screwed

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thefireinyourheart · Yesterday 09:11

EasternStandard · Yesterday 09:10

The op is clearly finding things difficult with her dc. Read her 8.53 post.

That’s a shame for her but her post is about money and Burnham.

EasternStandard · Yesterday 09:12

thefireinyourheart · Yesterday 09:11

That’s a shame for her but her post is about money and Burnham.

And more if you read her posts.

bafta16 · Yesterday 09:13

@ZenNudist agree with every word. " Austerity" was made up nonsense. Belt tightening for the greater good.....I don't think so.

Lilactimes · Yesterday 09:13

thepariscrimefiles · Yesterday 09:08

Yes, we could have had a sovereign wealth fund like Norway but the Thatcher government used the profits from North Sea oil/gas to privatise all the nationalised utilities and introduced the 'right to buy' council houses at a massively discounted price and didn't allow councils to use the profits from council house sales to build new council homes. This is when the housing crisis began.

We could have been as wealthy as Norway but we aren't, thanks to Margaret Thatcher and her right wing government.

💯 agree @thepariscrimefiles

thefireinyourheart · Yesterday 09:13

EasternStandard · Yesterday 09:12

And more if you read her posts.

I’ve read her posts.

There are people struggling to feed their children. Losing their homes because they can’t afford them.

glitterpaperchain · Yesterday 09:14

lxn889121 · Yesterday 03:12

Personally I think the entire problem is that the issues in the U.K. are far more structural and deep than a prime minister. (which is partly why we have entered this cycle of quickly changing leaders, because none of them can actually solve the fundamental issues we face, yet are blamed for not magically turning the country around).

Of course in certain specific cases you might be unlucky and one of his policies may hit you in a bad way, but in general on average, The biggest problems facing people in the U.K. over the next 5 years, will barely be scratched by any new leader.

This is exactly it. I think we've started to look at PM the way Americans look at a president - but we have to remember we have a whole series of people in charge and our daily lives are dictated by systems and structures not one individual PM.

But it takes long term strategy to make real changes to those big unweidly systems, so people are quick to say 'well this PM isn't working let's get another one'

Abra1t · Yesterday 09:15

Meadowfinch · Yesterday 06:03

When it became clear that Rachel Reeve really was that incompetent, two years ago, I battened down the hatches and limited myself to essential spending only. Saved every penny I could. It was clear the economy would drop and I would need every resource just to survive.

I was right. My employer is halving their work force, mothballing a factory and we are being made redundant in two weeks.

My approach remains the same. Grit your teeth, live on as little as possible, cancel all discretionary spending, and we will be rid of Burnham and Reeve and their wasteful, spite-led politics in 2029. It can't come soon enough.

Sorry to hear this. It sounds as if you have been very sensible and have the resilience to get through.

SummerPeonies2026 · Yesterday 09:15

Minusone · Yesterday 09:03

Revenge for what?

Revenge

OneWarmHazelQuail · Yesterday 09:16

bafta16 · Yesterday 09:08

Where's the violin? 'I send my son to private school and own a second home
You have 2 properties, you have wealthy parents, you can choose private education, you have a career.

What a joke.

Read all my posts. Will add some context

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Powerbungalow · Yesterday 09:16

redange · Yesterday 01:35

More left wing damage done in 2 years than the previous 50 years..

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TaffetaAndSobranie · Yesterday 09:16

bafta16 · Yesterday 09:13

@ZenNudist agree with every word. " Austerity" was made up nonsense. Belt tightening for the greater good.....I don't think so.

Well apparently austerity was something about the EU rules at that time ?

LilyBunch25 · Yesterday 09:17

MumofCandR · Yesterday 04:33

Where's the violin? 'I send my son to private school and own a second home', hardly counts as being on poverty line, which is clearly what no one should aspire or compare their situation to. Deeply routed structural issues driven by years of austerity measures shaped by conservative dogma is hardly a future to aspire too. Mortgage increases driven by conservative 'strategy' (remember Liz Truss?), buy to let tax landscape changes tanking landlord profitability (conservative policy)..... The list goes on. You're worried about the wrong things. There is no magic wand to reverse in a short period of time policies that brought us where we are today through many cycles of conservative governance. Personal responsibility has to come into this - there is no world in which a property in the UK that's in a position to rent out can't be sold, the price is too high for the market. Take ownership of your own life and what's in your control and take personal responsibility.All government policy, of any political colour takes years to trickle through and improve embedded structural issues and economic outcomes. Tackle what you can in your own life and don't wait for the 'man in shining armour' who will sweep in and fix everything overnight, that simply won't to happen. The issue is historic conservative government policy and macro economics. Previous conservative policy and the lunacy of countries like America who have chosen to unilaterally war monger have negatively impacted world stability and the economic landscape and there is no quick fix.

Agree on much of this. And having a lunatic in charge of the most powerful country in the world isn't helping.

TaffetaAndSobranie · Yesterday 09:17

@thepariscrimefiles that's terrible.

Is there a chance one can be created now?

Powerbungalow · Yesterday 09:18

Any house will sell at the right price.

You may lose money on it, but you're doing that at the moment.

SummerPeonies2026 · Yesterday 09:18

OneWarmHazelQuail · Yesterday 09:16

Read all my posts. Will add some context

Op you don’t need to justify why you are feeling so desperate, any one that can read can see why you are dreading what Labour are going to do next. Many pp haven’t taken the time to research Burnham and his background. If they did they would be far more alarmed than they are.

Bloozie · Yesterday 09:18

Such drama!

Yes, your life will be utterly miserable under Burnham, because you've already decided it's going to be, before the man's even unpacked his box.

People like you are the problem with British politics. I WANT THINGS BETTER FOR SPECIFICALLY ME, NOOOOOOOOOOOW!

No matter what he does, you'll look for and leap on the bad. You should probably emigrate now. It's going to be dreadful for you.

OneWarmHazelQuail · Yesterday 09:19

Powerbungalow · Yesterday 09:18

Any house will sell at the right price.

You may lose money on it, but you're doing that at the moment.

I will use more in one go. Problem is that I am not able to cover more loss. A smaller loss each month is more possible than a big one via a sale

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CountingDaisies · Yesterday 09:19

The problem is we the public would rather keep our heads in the sand than face the fact that the country is skint, and so anyone who actually tries to address the issues is universally loathed and booted out.

Take Keir. Yesterday there was a disability campaigner saying how terrible he was threatening to take her pip away.

Why should people accept a lower standard of living or quality of life why should they vote for that?

The money is all still there - it’s just that it’s in the bank accounts and assets of the extremely rich.

In the UK, the richest 56 people now hold more wealth than 27 million combined which represents 39% of the population (fact, you can google).

Absolutely outrageous! It’s disgraceful. Why should we accept this? Why should we?

SummerPeonies2026 · Yesterday 09:20

Bloozie · Yesterday 09:18

Such drama!

Yes, your life will be utterly miserable under Burnham, because you've already decided it's going to be, before the man's even unpacked his box.

People like you are the problem with British politics. I WANT THINGS BETTER FOR SPECIFICALLY ME, NOOOOOOOOOOOW!

No matter what he does, you'll look for and leap on the bad. You should probably emigrate now. It's going to be dreadful for you.

Who is going to pay for all this welfare if everyone that can decides to actually leave?

LuckyHazelFox · Yesterday 09:20

Bloozie · Yesterday 09:18

Such drama!

Yes, your life will be utterly miserable under Burnham, because you've already decided it's going to be, before the man's even unpacked his box.

People like you are the problem with British politics. I WANT THINGS BETTER FOR SPECIFICALLY ME, NOOOOOOOOOOOW!

No matter what he does, you'll look for and leap on the bad. You should probably emigrate now. It's going to be dreadful for you.

People like you, who constantly live in the past of Tory governments are a bigger problem. Just look at all this fawning over one man. It's Corbyn ooh Jeremy all over again. Fuck the women.

Youhadrambledonfor18pages · Yesterday 09:20

OneWarmHazelQuail · Yesterday 08:53

He screams and shouts for multiple hours a day. Sometimes as soon as he wakes. In public he tends to just stay away from other children but if he sees them in park for example, he will often be aggressive. He also wont use a toilet at home. 2 years of 7ish sets of soiled clothes in draining. At school, he's just very quiet but not mute. They say he speaks to adults about his family. He has no other interests.

I have done autism early bird course, courses with council. Taken him to OT and Speech and Lang. They say there may need sensory issues but he doesn't seem sensitive to sound or light so it's unclear to me what the cause is.

I also have a baby daughter. She's an aversive feeder - doctors think this is due to reflux.

I just feel so lost. There doesn't seem to be any help. I use every penny I have to try and help my son but nothing works. The advice doesn't work.

Where is the children’s father in all of this? What is he doing to help make things better?

thepariscrimefiles · Yesterday 09:20

BlueRedCat · Yesterday 08:33

@Writer034 who on earn would then keep that amount of assets in the Uk if they are going to be taxed 2%? Rich people are very mobile in terms of moving money

Rich people like that will move their money to tax havens whether a Labour government introduces a wealth tax for people with over £10 million or not. The richer people are, the easier it is for them to use tax avoidance specialists to move their wealth off-shore while still being resident in the UK. These are normally right-winger who call themselves 'patriots'.

backformoreofthesame · Yesterday 09:21

that old house will sell for the right price

higher energy costs - blame the profiteering energy companies

the mortgage costs are also not set by the government

You talk about private educated SEN child - well I rather think that’s the kind of stupidity that people like burnham want to fix

thefireinyourheart · Yesterday 09:21

SummerPeonies2026 · Yesterday 09:18

Op you don’t need to justify why you are feeling so desperate, any one that can read can see why you are dreading what Labour are going to do next. Many pp haven’t taken the time to research Burnham and his background. If they did they would be far more alarmed than they are.

She can sell her two houses, use the equity from both of them to go mortgage free and ask her rich mummy and daddy to pay for private school for a while.

friedaklein · Yesterday 09:21

Could we pl stop kicking the OP when she's down? She's in severe distress because of her SEN child.

I am not sure your problem is Burnham. Farage would be worse for those getting PIP or similar, no? But either way, you need help. Hope you get it.

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