AIBU to feel miffed about my family getting Irish passports?

[Honeysucklelane]

AIBU to feel miffed my DH & kids are getting Irish passports? They all have UK passports and it seems a luxury to pay twice.

I can’t get an Irish passport, but my DH and DC’s can. I’ve pointed out I’ll be stuck in the long non-EU queues at airports whilst they go ahead through the EU queue.

Realistically unless any of them travel somewhere alone, it’s highly unlikely they’ll be with other family or friends with Irish passports so they’ll always be waiting on whoever they’re travelling with anyway so what is the point?

DH was very sheepish when a neighbour popped round with the signed forms this evening and was avoiding telling me what he’d dropped round for.

Inaccurate. Need to live in Ireland for a spouse to get it.

I don't think that could possibly happen within the EU, though there might be a plan to go elsewhere I suppose.

So because some people were prejudiced towards you, you are miffed at entirely different people applying for and receiving Irish nationality through descent.

I cannot imagine being that emotional but you do you.

Not mentioning it beforehand suggests he knew @Honeysucklelane would dislike the plan. Going ahead without any discussion is unreasonable.

It's not about holidays though. It gives your children a massive amount of choice in the future over where they work and opportunities to travel, jobs etc. I'd be very very happy for them.

I suspect in Northern Ireland (part of UK), many people consider themselves Irish, and ‘live Irish cultural traditions’, although I’m not quite sure what that is. They will have antecedents who have lived on the Island of Ireland for thousands of years.

A British person moving to Germany is not quite the same comparison.

Read more carefully. These are often the same people.

A work colleague applied for an Irish passport which was received on 1st June this year. They are due to receive it last week of July. There's a huge backlog. 6-8 weeks.

I have duel citizenship (British and Irish) because I was born on the Island of Ireland and thanks to the Good Friday agreement. I shall be renewing only my Irish passport for travel abroad. There's not a problem with returning to the UK on an Irish passport because of the Common Travel Agreement.

Perhaps I have a suspicious mind! I imagined OP getting home to discover the children gone and the passports still in the drawer... ignore me, it's hot.

The thing I can't work out about this (being from NI I am entitled to both as well) is: are we sure that someone with the right to a UK passport but travelling into the UK on their Irish one won't fall foul of the new UK rule about dual nationals needing to pay a hefty right to residency stamp on their Irish one?

I THINK not but haven't tested it out yet so am a little worried until I've done it. So far, under those new rules I've only gone through Belfast or Dublin and I don't know for sure that London or Manchester woudl be ok with that. A bit like them not accepting NI banknotes, lol.

You should be able to join them in the EU queue, there is a specific EU regulation for this but when we arrived in France this week (I was travelling on my Irish passport, DH on his Australian) they absolutely refused to allow this. Luckily the place was empty so it made no difference but I would print out a copy of the directive in future.

@mumofoneOkayalonevery few Irish men look like Aidan Turner FYI. I’d wait in a queue for THAT, and no mistake.

You can go through. We do this with my DH (the rest of us are Irish).

irish passports are the exception to this rule.

@Minasama I wondered when someone on the thread would stumble unwittingly into telling the Northern Irish Catholic/Nationalist community “you’re not Irish”.

Didn't take long. 👏

I can get an Irish passport and my husband can't,yself and the kids will get them for when we go to Europe so the kids don't have to queue, total no brainer. Husband will just have to queue. I've offered that we could live in Connemara for 3 years so he's eligible but he's quite happy where we are and the payoff of a bit of solo queuing without kids is no bother. Actually I'd happily queue alone while my husband entertains the kids. Would probably be the highlight of the holiday 😂 like that bit where they're buckled in the car and you walk round to the driver's seat in silence..

You will be exercising your rights as the spouse of an EU national, therefore you queue with your husband in the EU queue. You are also able when travelling with him not to be limited to 90 days in the EU.

I think it's great to give them more options. However I would be pissed off if my DH did that without discussing with me first.

The fact you didn't know about it until your neighbour brought the signed documents is disrespectful and wrong and that's what you should be upset about

Jarleth Regan has something to say about that:

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/tfogO9IdUmk

Yes but you can manage it, and when your anxiety is over something completely irrational the management is very simple: you accept it. So you’ll feel anxious, so what? Feel the fear and do it anyway.

Absolutely bonkers to want to stand in the way of the benefits of your kids having EU citizenship because you think the best way to manage anxiety is to avoid situations that make you anxious. Maybe they do only want the quick passport queues now, but when they’re older they may want the benefits. As their parent you should be encouraging that not holding them back.

This is completely incorrect. She would need to live on the island of Ireland for a set amount of time to get one through marriage.

OP just be pleased at the opportunities this opens up for your DCs. My DH and DCs have them and I am so grateful that are shielded from some of the disaster that is Brexit. My NI MIL voted for Brexit, so this feels like a small “fuck you” to her and others who wanted to pull up the drawbridge.

Not a problem. Went to Rome and Sicily in May. Flew back from Sicily on my Irish passport. This is because of the Common Travel Agreement.

Eta flew to and from Manchester. My sister flew from Manchester with me and flew back from Sicily to Birmingham. We both flew there and back on our Irish passports (we brought our British ones as well just in case but didn't need them).

Great opportunity for the rest of the family to go through and wait for the luggage, so that by the time you get through it's all collected off the carousel and neatly stacked on the trolley :)

Thanks, good to know!

Except when we flew to Rome in May, the carousel filled up with luggage and started to fall off. My sister and I along with one other person had to take them off.

I left because we had a taxi waiting and my suitcase was one of the first ones out. Eventually one of the staff came to help and bags were thrown all over the place. My sister joined me 15 minutes later.