AIBU to be angry about another misleading programme on Romany Gypsies?

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I just can't believe this is happening again.

Some of you may remember the show called "my big fat gypsy wedding" on channel 4 from years ago. It did absolutely awful damage to my community (Romany gypsy). It was complete and utter trash and majority of those featured weren't even gypsies.

Well they're at it again.

They are advertising a new show, something along the lines of "secret lives of gypsy wives". Yet the star of the show is a social media influencer (?) named Trewly Precious who is neither of those things. I think her father was a gypsy but she wasn't raised in the community and she isn't married.

Why are they doing this to us? There are so many amazing gypsy women who could have shown what it's really like to be a modern day gypsy. Yet they have once again chosen entertainment value over the reputation of a community who are already marginalised and hated by a large portion of the public. AIBU to be so angry about this?

Apparently her father is/was a Romany gypsy.

Yet the OP says the woman is 'neither of those things'.

I find this confusing as why would anyone deny someone else's heritage?

Do you think a person stops being part of GRT communities just because they’re settled?

You don't appear to understand which is fine but just to explain, an English gypsy is a Romany gypsy. A traveller is an Irish traveller. They are not the same at all and shouldn't be used synonymously as they often are in the media.

If you had one French parent but were raised in England by English people, should you star in a TV programme about being french?

my mother is from taiwan. she never raised me in taiwan but spoke to me in mandarin if someone asked me i would naturally say i am taiwanese or half taiwanese depending on why the person was asking

So the subject of this show should be banned from TV because she's not a proper gypsy? Definitely no racism or stereotyping there.

Why are you denying her heritage though?

If her dad is a Romany Gypsy then she's half Romany Gypsy.

I've just looked her up and she makes no secret of her dad being RG and her mum not.

One of my parents is Scottish gypsy, the other is English. Having one English parent doesn’t mean I was raised outwith Scottish gypsy culture.

How is this comparable?

She was born to one Romany Gypsy and one none Romany Gypsy.

She was apparently one of 13 children and appears to be very in touch with her own heritage.

I would love to know about your Romany Gypsy history . Especially your ancestors . Their lifes were hard . It would be interesting to hear about life for you now . I met some lovely gypsy people and they invited me to their daughters wedding . It was a wonderful day and they were so welcoming. Would you consider starting a thread ? As for the rubbish tv programme just ignore and hold your head up high , you know who you are

As typified by your excellent use of outwith. Weel done!

I think a better analogy would be, if an American with one English parent did a documentary on their life as an "English person" and really hammed up the terrible teeth, ugliness, pretended to eat nothing but grey slop and have terrible hygiene. Like a serious Vicky Pollard. And Americans were basing their opinions of "the Brits" solely on that.
People on here would be mad about it, even if they say here they can't see the problem with the show you describe. You only have to look at how upset people were (rightly) that Rupert Lowe lied on the JRE show about the Dunblane massacre. Because what he said wasn't true but everything he said was taken as face value because he was a British person.

I think it's the single most common theme for threads in the AMA (Ask Me Anything) section.

You might want to pop your head in there.

Sorry, I can't link for some reason.

What a weird response.

I'm not denying her heritage. I'm questioning why she was she cast in this show?

You absolutely are denying her heritage, right here.

"They are advertising a new show, something along the lines of "secret lives of gypsy wives". Yet the star of the show is a social media influencer (?) named Trewly Precious who is neither of those things."

And you denied it here too with this strange non-comparison.

"If you had one French parent but were raised in England by English people, should you star in a TV programme about being french?"

She was raised by one Romany Gypsy parent and one non RG parent.

Do Irish Travellers call themselves Gipsies?
I tend to think in terms of Romanies or Travellers, rather than Gipsy.

I'm not denying that her dad is a Romany gypsy. But unless a gypsy girl is raised by a gypsy woman then she really can't represent them.

Unpopular opinion (probably).

Are you cross because people already have a pretty low opinion of gypsies (and lump them in with Irish travellers)? Do you only want the very 'best" people from your community to be represented?

I have tried and failed to defend the local gypsy community where I live. I'm sure there are a lot of really kind and honest people within that community but the ones who make a massive nuisance in the community are the ones everyone sees. I stopped speaking up in defence when one of my own relatives was conned out of thousands of ££ a few years ago.

The Didakoi was one of my favourite books as a child. Not even a tiny bit resonant with the behaviour and lifestyle I see today.

Says who?

You? 😳

Not really, you want the show banned, if that's what "the right not to have racist, reductive stereotypes about her community portrayed on television" means. Much, much weirder to think that people need to be representative of their race to be on TV. Very dangerous territory.

Aye that's the reality the big motors and fancy caravans aren't the proceeds of selling lucky heather and cleaning gutters.
People have eyes and see what goes on when they pitch up.

The program is called the secret lives of gypsy wives. It is meant to be representative. The producers want you to think it's representative. Otherwise it would be called the secret life of A gypsy wife or even the secret life of precious or whatever her name is. It's misleading to claim that this program's intention is not about an entire group of people.

I see, apologies I thought there were Irish travellers, English travellers and then further Romany Gypsies. I didn’t know ET means RG.