Anyone else surprised that there isn’t more uproar about global warming right now?

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In the grips of an unprecedentedly hot summer, schools closing, fridges breaking down in many supermarkets, impending drought. How come there is not more popular protest as we experience properly for the first time what the future will hold? It is a problem for global leaders and governments, however I’m surprised that Extinction Rebellion, Insulate Britain, or a similar grassroots radical protest organisation isn’t harnessing the momentum. It doesn’t seem such an abstract issue right now.

I think people have been put off protesting because the right to protest has been compromised.

I am happy to recycle

i have an EV

i am happy to cut air travel

i am happy to boycott SHEIN/ Temu/ other manufacturers from half way round the world.

do I want the pension that I’ve paid £1k a month of my hard earned money into to be worth zero when I retire in 20 years? Fuck off

do I want my house that I’ve paid average 5% interest on the loan for 35 years to be worthless? Fuck off.

ask people who are desperate to do something whether it includes losing everything they saved for and having no ability to earn anything more and see whether you get honest answers.

What uproar would you like to see?

The vast majority of contribution to climate change are corporations, including state corporations. Throwing dyed powder at Stonehenge or blocking traffic on motorways is not going to impact them.

I also think there is a lot of conflicting information and people do get burnt out that nothing we can do is enough, nothing has a clear impact. I mean, I have solar panels and a heat pump, great, but then we can get into the ethics of mining the minerals particularly for the solar battery and is the push for home generation more about the economic boost to those industries compared to environmental impact. I've read more than once that for a house like mine which had electric heaters from the 70s with no gas, it's a sensible swap, but for many, it's more debateable whether the waste of replacement overrides any environmental benefit.

It's hard to know what to prioritise, and it's hard to know what kind of uproar would actually have meaningful impact when those corporations doing most of the polluting have had the resources to make themselves well protected. I'm not surprised there isn't more with these issues and the issues around the right to protest.

For me, personally, I think its because so many of us have gone to considerable effort & expensive to live a greener life and nothing has changed. Which isn't to say we should stop making green-choices, but it does highlight that we need national and international progressive policies far and beyond what's being done now.

The billionaires, oil companies and massive data companies still bring considerable political pressure to bear.

And come winter, half the UK will complain about the rain (also a symptom of climate change) and forget all about the heat and wildfires...

Well those in power, including Ed Milliband, are making numerous trips of private jets and have a bigger carbon footprint than I will ever have in my lifetime
A rainforest was chopped into to make a 4 lane motorway to hold a climate change conference
Dale Vince donated to the Labour Party and has had £££ in return to cover the countryside in solar panels which could be on roof tops
And they are excited about bringing data centres and AI to the UK, using vast amounts of water and power
It those than can change things are not leading by example the rest of us cant do much

I don't think protesting will do anything really unless the protest has a tangible goal or demand and I can't really work out what that should be. I'm skeptical that half the stuff they tell us is better than carbon will end up being worse in some other way (mining minerals for EV batteries for example) and it could all just be a scam to sell us different/new stuff and make people pay more for it, not to mention that all the existing stuff gets trashed which seems wasteful. I've heard a few ppl say the only viable option is nuclear but I don't really understand enough about it to know if that's true or not.

I don’t think it’s about protesting as such, but about voting for politicians who have the environment high up on the agenda. That would force all politicians to put it in the agenda.

Greenpeace have been doing the ‘heat wave brought to you by Shell’ campaign.

Greta and her gang have moved onto new causes now such as Palestine, climate change is so last year.

She knows when she’s beat.

We are a little busy dealing with the rise of fascism in the United States.

Human fertility rates are dropping, a trend which is likely to accelerate.

When a species stops reproducing of its own accord, something is generally very wrong.

Yeah, this.

I recycle, I’ve only owned a car for 7 months of my adult life, I don’t have air con, I turn my thermostat down.

I’m not going to stop recycling and taking public transport where possible, but honestly, what’s the point of me rinsing out yoghurt pots and milk bottles when China is contributing to 35% of emissions and 100 million plastic utensils are used every DAY in America*, most of which can’t be recycled?

*source: https://www.nationalgeographic.com/environment/article/carrying-your-own-fork-spoon-help-plastic-crisis

I think people get fed up with it as everytime they say anything they get called a Leftie

Many people see the problem but we cannot stop what’s happening. We avoid plastic and they build AI data centres. What do you propose that we do? As the parent of a disabled adult daughter, with 9 other family never too, that works 52 hrs a week to survive, what do you suggest I do?

What?? This is the sort of inane comment that makes me doubt the future of humanity.

Weather has happened before. What would you suggest anyone does about it?
Do you think standing on a street corner in Coventry, golding a sign and chanting "down with this sort of thing" is going to stop China burning coal. Or close the lithium mines in Africa?.

Fantastic reply. I hate the deniers. It's happening

I imagine those organisations are doing less protesting because peaceful protest has been criminalised by the current government, that fundamental right has been removed from us.

@DontrockthecaravanGeoffrey until private flights are curtailed for the rich, criticising people’s annual flight to Spain just won’t wash. I’ll give up my annual flight when Prince Harry and his pals fly on commercial flights (good enough for the Queen after all !)

It's not just about hot summers though. That's part of the problem and no bugger is enjoying this heat.

Speak for yourself @gamerchick I’m very much enjoying this heat

But its completely true! Pro pally is the latest trend for the protesters, no one cares about climate change anymore.

Or stop natural evolution of the planet?😬

I think it’s more likely greta, being ND has just shifted her obsession elsewhere. She’s not the only activist though.