Anyone else surprised that there isn’t more uproar about global warming right now?

[fluffythecat1]

In the grips of an unprecedentedly hot summer, schools closing, fridges breaking down in many supermarkets, impending drought. How come there is not more popular protest as we experience properly for the first time what the future will hold? It is a problem for global leaders and governments, however I’m surprised that Extinction Rebellion, Insulate Britain, or a similar grassroots radical protest organisation isn’t harnessing the momentum. It doesn’t seem such an abstract issue right now.

The single best thing you can do is not have children. If you already have children, encourage them now to have any.

That only leads to economic disaster in the uk. The impact on climate change would be minimal

I’m not enjoying it at all thanks and I know lots of other people who are not either.

This is part of the problem, the minimisers. Not you @Flazzled but those who keep saying “it’s just a bit of hot weather” and are spectacularly missing the bigger picture.

Studied this decades ago for my degree. Simply, there are tonnes of people who don't believe it. Tonnes who think it's reversible and can be fixed / dealt with later. I am firmly in it's real and the timing point has long gone camp. So I don't get upset or worry. My take away point from my degree is we are fucked so made my peace a long time ago.

Plus sooooo many people blame the youngsters for this like filthiness it's everyone under 30s fault. I think the industrial revolution might have played a part.

Let's see if people belive once we hit 40 degrees with flooding being the norm. And what then? Turn back time? Eat what?

There will be 10 billion people on the planet, we can just keep importing them, like we do now, if and when needed.

It’s a shame people won’t accept the issue is over population. 10 billion people, even if they live like saints, are going to have a massive impact on climate change.

We should be praying for some sort of reset or global catastrophe, like a sun blotting volcano eruption or a much, much more severe pandemic. Because governments are not going to do anything about population growth, the NEED growth to feed the economic pyramid.

In any case, I think it’s too late for this global warming event, the damage has already been done.

I think the point of not having children is that they won't have to suffer when things get bad. That’s my fear - we’ve had such lucky privileged lives - even the poorest in the UK in general are some of the luckiest people ever to have lived. Most people don’t know suffering, we see it on TV and become blasé to it and turn a blind eye. With climate change it will come to lots of us.

I agree, most of the climate activists were simply anarchist rent-a-mob types (Greta included) who are now occupied elsewhere. So its not surprising.

What really surprises me is that there are still loons who insist climate change is not real.

Exactly. We (and other developed nations) already have a falling population. But in other parts of the world birth rates are sky rocketing. The UN estimates world population will be 10.3 billion by mid 2080s.
We’ll reach 9 billion by 2037. The highest increases will be in Sub- Saharan Africa, where many of the world’s poorest countries are.

https://www.un.org/en/global-issues/population

Truthfully I couldn't care less

The Paris Agreement is still the goal. But there have been political and public issues (not everyone agrees) and you cannot discount the current worldwide economic crisis. Developing a greener infrastructure costs $4-7 TRILLION annually across the world to meet net zero targets. But political leaderships and priorities are not static. The economy is not stable. While countries are spending more than ever to implement changes, the perception is that things have stagnated.

That's nice

I agree with what @KatiePricesKnickers says.
I realise we need numbers to maintain the economy as it is but who wants that? It relies on continual growth. That is unsustainable. May people are miserable going to work every day to earn a living. Money, as they say, is at the root of all evil. No one ever has enough money. Money doesn't buy you happiness. And so on...
Worth noting: no other species on the planet has an economy. It's not working that well for us either. Perhaps we might think about changing it.

It needn't, though. It only costs that much to maintain our current lifestyles in a more green way. It's that magic bullet thinking again, that we can tech our way out of this, have our cake and eat it, still do what we have been doing for generations.

Outside of Europe no-one cares. None of the countries I've been in in Asia in the last 3 years have any concept of carbon-neutral. Its not a thing in 90% of the world.

Exactly my experience when talking with colleagues from all over Asia. As I said earlier in the thread they just laugh when we talk about global warming and not have ac. Their countries would literally grind to a halt and become largely uninhabitable without ac everywhere.

Exactly. You’ve only got to look at the state of the rivers in Asia and Africa. That’s how they dispose of their waste, flush it out to the ocean.
India is a vast country and with 1.5 billion people, it can counteract any green policies implemented in Europe and North America on its own, let alone adding on China (1.4 billion) and Africa (1.6 billion).

It’s farcical to think Europe and North America going green will achieve anything regards to climate change.

We need to seriously consider banning pets. A medium dog has more environmental impact than running 2 SUVs

People can’t even adhere to a hosepipe ban because “I pay for water so I’ll use it” mentality. We are in the main absolutely irredeemable animals.

Its time we stopped blaming Asia. Canada, USA and Australia all have higher emissions per capital than China. UK has double the emissions per capital than India.

People are looking at emissions as a country so of course bigger countries have more total. Global warming ain't respecting borders.

We don’t need to blame anyone in particular, we are all guilty just by virtue of existing.
It’s also futile to try and curtail people.

The Paris agreement will achieve nothing in the grand scale of things.
We need a proper humanitarian disaster!

I agree with you OP. It’s shocking really. Sleep walking into disaster for future generations.

And North America don’t even want to. So it’s just little ole Europe trying to lead the way by bullying and taxing anything and anyone not doing what they consider to be green.

Well it’s hard to know for sure, but we might get one following the closure of the Strait of Hormuz. By “we” I mean humanity, but it’ll be the poorest people in the world who can’t afford food so they don’t really count in Western eyes 🤷‍♀️

Well, they tried all the doom-mongering a few years ago and it got no traction and fizzled out. The general population just doesn’t care, for better or worse.

I mean, I can speak for myself, I could not care less. Not because I don’t think it’s real or I don’t believe Bad Things could happen, but because I’m busy thinking about other things. I suspect I’m in the majority.

This. It seems a lot of people are more interested in the protesting than the cause. I was on a station platform with a group of protesters headed for London and all they could talk about was how many followers they had on Facebook.