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Anyone else surprised that there isn’t more uproar about global warming right now?

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fluffythecat1 · 11/07/2026 14:25

In the grips of an unprecedentedly hot summer, schools closing, fridges breaking down in many supermarkets, impending drought. How come there is not more popular protest as we experience properly for the first time what the future will hold? It is a problem for global leaders and governments, however I’m surprised that Extinction Rebellion, Insulate Britain, or a similar grassroots radical protest organisation isn’t harnessing the momentum. It doesn’t seem such an abstract issue right now.

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Morepositivemum · 11/07/2026 18:48

People choose what to be upset over- they want holidays, fast fashion, party decorations, temu and chatgpt

dizzydizzydizzy · 11/07/2026 19:07

ObelixtheGaul · 11/07/2026 18:33

The UK has substantially decreased emissions by shunting industry elsewhere. It's changed nothing on a global scale, because not enough of us have changed our habits or expectations for a comfortable lifestyle.

Most of the 'solutions' are really about 'what can we invent/do to reduce the problem whilst keeping all the convenience of the modern lifestyle'.

A PP was correct - pissing about with electric cars and not using plastic straws isn't going to achieve much, but it's what you end up with when society has become so entrenched in a way of life that we don't want to give it up.

When the government makes some effort to regulate big business, the public moan about increased prices, point the finger at China's emissions whilst taking advantage of the cheap stuff from there.

We moan that public transport isn't good enough, but it isn't good because it isn't used enough. People don't want it. They want their cars. The bus is never going to go from your door to the door of your destination.

The fact is, we all say, 'it's not us, it's big this that or the other, but big this that or the other is driven by consumers. We want what they sell, and if any government attempts to restrict that, most of the population have a hissy fit over it, whilst in the next breath expecting the government to 'do something'.

The magic bullet that means we can carry on as we are doesn't exist. What it would take to really change the outcome is for every single one of us to revert to very simple, off-grid lifestyles. But very few of us (myself included) are truly willing to do that. We pat ourselves on the back if we don't drive (like me) or we have an electric car, or we use beeswax wrap instead of cling film. It's not anywhere near enough, but we are 'doing our bit' and it's big this, that or the other, greedy governments, etc, that is the real problem.
It isn't. Well, it is, but not in the way we want it to be. Not in the way that lets the rest of us off the hook. Because big business and greedy governments didn't drop from outer space and make us adopt this lifestyle. We ran to it, we bought it, we kept it growing and growing, we wanted, we needed, we demanded.

Environmental activists are trying to do something, yes. But they are still operating on that principle that the governments and businesses are somehow separate entities that have forced us against our will to live this way, rather than seeing the co-conspirators most of us truly are.

You make many good points.

Yes the UK has exported emissions to China, but has also reduced emissions. Over 50% of electricity production is now from renewables. It seems that ULEZ in London has reduced pollution too.

Regarding people not using public transport, I think that is often because the service is so poor or the price so high (or both) that it is unviable. You can’t go on a train around this neck of the woods on a Sunday without encountering a rail replacement service, which usually takes 3 times as long but (bizarrely) costs the same.

Elsvieta · 11/07/2026 23:48

BlackTogetherAgain67 · 11/07/2026 16:06

Also - literally noone denies climate change.

Everyone can see the climate is changing.

It's just some people are aware that someone in Tunbridge Wells bankrupting themselves by changing their boiler is not going to change the weather.

Lots of people deny it, unfortunately. We've seen it in the right-wing press these last couple of weeks: "We had a very long hot summer in 1976, it just happens sometimes, climate change is a scam" etc. It's still presented as something you can "believe" in, or not. Which is a big part of the problem.

PollyBell · 11/07/2026 23:49

So what are individuals doing to help, leaving it to everyone else?

whoremembers · 11/07/2026 23:51

Yanbu - everyone's just too hot to do anything about it

Namechangingregularly · 11/07/2026 23:51

backformoreofthesame · 11/07/2026 17:00

But no where near this hot , and not hot every year , more like once in a generation heatwave. Like saying the tide comes in every day when faced with a tsunami.

now thousands are dying across Europe because of the excess heat. The numbers for the UK are not yet available but they are happening

The cost to us to retrofit air con and shutters to homes and schools and hospitals will be immense , the cost of coping with climate variability , excess rain , crop failures - it’s the rich capitalists wet dream. They walked us into this mess and they are the only ones who will profit.

speak with your wallet because it’s the only effective language

slash your spending because there is barely anything you can buy that doesn’t harm the climate

cut meat and dairy to a minimum , cut your flights and your car usage , probably change your lifestyle completely. Minimise your gas and electricity usage ( solar excepted ). Learn to get enjoyment and value from anything but an Amazon habit. Stop steaming movies. Stop wasting energy generating cute ai images

The messages have been consistent for decades as to what consumers can do. Less outrage , more action. Action now will saves lives and your own money later

Alright chicken licken

yoursweetpotatoesarebland · Yesterday 00:15

I quite like the warm weather! Much better than years where it’s just relentless rain.. so nice to be able to reliably eat outside etc.
reckon people just like to complain tbh

BlackTogetherAgain67 · Yesterday 07:10

Elsvieta · 11/07/2026 23:48

Lots of people deny it, unfortunately. We've seen it in the right-wing press these last couple of weeks: "We had a very long hot summer in 1976, it just happens sometimes, climate change is a scam" etc. It's still presented as something you can "believe" in, or not. Which is a big part of the problem.

If you're going to say this you need to provide a link to the right wing press saying the climate isn't changing in the last two weeks

Guidanceplease20 · Yesterday 07:20

trapanisky · 11/07/2026 14:49

People are too busy getting ready to jet off on yet another foreign holiday. Flying
from over 30 degree heat to somewhere thousands of miles away with over 30 degree heat just because it’s their holiday.

I don’t see any hope really. Human beings are largely selfish creatures. People only seem to change their behaviour when they are forced to because it’s too late

Agreed

When COVID hit and the world stopped, I said if the international community didnt use it as a starter to plan to reverse climate change, they never would.

Dont think it was even mentioned.

Summerhillsquare · Yesterday 08:12

BlackTogetherAgain67 · 11/07/2026 16:06

Also - literally noone denies climate change.

Everyone can see the climate is changing.

It's just some people are aware that someone in Tunbridge Wells bankrupting themselves by changing their boiler is not going to change the weather.

I'm interested in your sources given how comprehensively wrong you are. Also your motivation to wheel out a dozen anti climate action talking points on social media in such an articulate way. Do tell.

BlackTogetherAgain67 · Yesterday 08:15

Elsvieta · Yesterday 08:08

Several links in here:

When the right denies the true danger of heatwaves, ask yourself this: whose children’s lives is it willing to risk? | George Monbiot | The Guardian

and one or two examples on this thread - summers are always hot, apparently. Some people are very determined not to learn.

Sorry - this is a total lie and I'm sure you know it is.

Even in his George Monbiot (hardly a good source) article in The Guardian (ditto), there isn't one single example of the right wing press saying the climate isn't changing. The articles he mention are all about the dangers of climate change alarmism - ie the very misinformation you're engaging in.

BlackTogetherAgain67 · Yesterday 08:19

Summerhillsquare · Yesterday 08:12

I'm interested in your sources given how comprehensively wrong you are. Also your motivation to wheel out a dozen anti climate action talking points on social media in such an articulate way. Do tell.

If I say no-one is denying that the climate is changing then the onus is on you to provide evidence that someone, ie in the press this year, is saying this!

I'm still waiting..

KatiePricesKnickers · Yesterday 08:38

There are too many people on the planet.
In about the last 25 years, the population went from 6 billion to 8 billion.
In another 30 odd years we’ll be at 10 billion.
I think people are pissing in the wind thinking anything they do is going to have any impact.

Just Stop Fucking!

DorothyParker111 · Yesterday 08:46

Meadowfinch · 11/07/2026 18:01

Governments have known about this for decades and choose to ignore it - at their peril.

I've adopted my own approach. I have a grey water system so my veggie beds and greenhouse are well watered legally.
I have retained a lot of trees so our garden is shady and moist (and stuffed full of wildlife hiding from the sun).
I cut and dry my own wood for heat and to minimise gas use. I cycle wherever possible to cut diesel use, and improve my health and that of my wallet.
I eat veggie several times a week, grow my own fruit & veg, keep bees to help with local pollination, and recycle everything possible. I've increased my house insulation to improve efficiency. At some point I will install solar panels to heat water

I can only fix what is in my control.

Thoughtful adaptation based on personal circumstances - thanks for laying out what's possible. This approach is exactly what's suggested in the deliberately provocatively titled essay 'Collapse now and beat the rush'. It advocates embracing a simpler lifestyle focussed on building future resilience. Well worth a read.

DontrockthecaravanGeoffrey · Yesterday 08:49

Glitchymn1 · 11/07/2026 17:03

I do appreciate what you are saying but it’s very hard to comply when there are wars, space expeditions, Musk!

I do what I can, I’m vegan, I don’t over consume, I recycle, I walk to work, but I do go on holidays- never all inclusive it makes me angry….

It's not about complying though is it? It's about personal choice.

There will always be arseholes who start wars, want to go to Mars or are Elon Musk. My mum used to say 'if someone else jumps off a bridge you don't have to'.

Darker · Yesterday 08:50

The endless wars and the race to promote AI has me in despair.

Also the inference that it’s individuals who bear the responsibility.

We need globally coordinated action.

But it seems to be billionaires who have the most influence. People who make their money from consumption and conflict, and who can buy their way out of climate-related inconveniences.

Elsvieta · Yesterday 09:29

BlackTogetherAgain67 · Yesterday 08:15

Sorry - this is a total lie and I'm sure you know it is.

Even in his George Monbiot (hardly a good source) article in The Guardian (ditto), there isn't one single example of the right wing press saying the climate isn't changing. The articles he mention are all about the dangers of climate change alarmism - ie the very misinformation you're engaging in.

The articles he mentions are all peddling the lie that there's nothing to be alarmed about.

Monbiot is by far the best source in UK journalism of accurate information on the climate crisis. And the Guardian one of the few papers not pandering to business interests that are invested in climate denialism.

susiedaisy1912 · Yesterday 09:31

KatiePricesKnickers · Yesterday 08:38

There are too many people on the planet.
In about the last 25 years, the population went from 6 billion to 8 billion.
In another 30 odd years we’ll be at 10 billion.
I think people are pissing in the wind thinking anything they do is going to have any impact.

Just Stop Fucking!

Yep agree completely.

KatiePricesKnickers · Yesterday 09:34

@Darker ”The endless wars and the race to promote AI has me in despair.”

It’s the latest innovation. There was a race to coal fired power stations, a race to build cars, planes, boats, washing machines etc etc.

As long as the impact of data centers is minimized ( and UK planning laws will ensure this ) I don’t see the issue.
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Snackpocket · Yesterday 09:50

Because people fundamentally don’t want to change their lifestyle or sacrifice anything to reduce their impact. Everyone is relying on the government to do something but ultimately it’s everyone’s responsibility. I get it, it’s not easy to stop things like flying. But there are other things you can do to have an impact. I only learnt recently just what a huge impact beef, prawns and dairy have in terms of carbon footprint so reducing or removing those from your diet is a fairly easy change. I think we are all guilty of feeling like it’s pointless to make small changes but it does all help.

Unfortunately we live in the era of individualism, consumerism and buying fast fashion and cheap temu tat so I think we are fucked. Well I say we, its future generations really.

PluviophileinRaintown · Yesterday 10:01

Disappointed and angry, but not at all surprised. People generally look after their perceived short term personal interests and are generally unwilling to make even the slightest sacrifice for the greater good, or even the future welfare of their own children and grandchildren. See also pension triple lock.

fluffythecat1 · Yesterday 10:14

Snackpocket · Yesterday 09:50

Because people fundamentally don’t want to change their lifestyle or sacrifice anything to reduce their impact. Everyone is relying on the government to do something but ultimately it’s everyone’s responsibility. I get it, it’s not easy to stop things like flying. But there are other things you can do to have an impact. I only learnt recently just what a huge impact beef, prawns and dairy have in terms of carbon footprint so reducing or removing those from your diet is a fairly easy change. I think we are all guilty of feeling like it’s pointless to make small changes but it does all help.

Unfortunately we live in the era of individualism, consumerism and buying fast fashion and cheap temu tat so I think we are fucked. Well I say we, its future generations really.

Agreed. It would seem like an ideal time to provide more information on how people can make a difference. We can’t do much about having a climate denier like Trump as the leader of one of the highest CO2 producing countries, however we can reduce waste, take more public transport, get a water butt and a watering can, think twice before buying single use rubbish from Amazon or Temu, eat less beef, only boil the kettle with what you need, buy from charity shops. There are wider bottom up shifts that can have an impact if enough people feel strongly about it and move together. The reduction in the use of plastic carrier bags in supermarkets was a huge change that ordinary people made happen.

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Backedoffhackedoff · Yesterday 11:00

KatiePricesKnickers · Yesterday 09:34

@Darker ”The endless wars and the race to promote AI has me in despair.”

It’s the latest innovation. There was a race to coal fired power stations, a race to build cars, planes, boats, washing machines etc etc.

As long as the impact of data centers is minimized ( and UK planning laws will ensure this ) I don’t see the issue.
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This. China is having its Industrial Revolution- we had ours, and it changed our society forever. We had the luxury of not knowing what it did to the environment.