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AIBU to be angry about hosepipe bans and whether people will comply?

293 replies

liquidfinch · Yesterday 16:57

AIBU to be so angry about the hosepipe bans and the situation we find ourselves in?!

If we keep having these heatwaves AND hosepipe bans the future is going to become utterly unbearable.

I read somewhere that it's not even about us running out of water this year! The water companies are just worried about having to supply what we need because it will impact their environmental targets (they want to reduce water use per capita).

If they don't hit these targets it could reduce their bonuses and/or they might be fined.

These bans will have enormous adverse impacts on nature and ecosystems.

If we can't water our gardens, plants and parks wildlife will suffer. Pollinators especially. I think it's appalling.

Are you ready for the hosepipe ban?

Have you taken any measures (buying water butts, filling up pools) to mitigate the impact this will have on your normal routine/enjoyment of your home/garden/life?

Most importantly: are you going to comply?

  • Cambridge Water:
Active as of July 9, and enforceable from 1am on Friday, July 17.
  • Southern Water:
Enforced starting from 1am on July 11.
  • South East Water:
Enforced starting from July 18.
OP posts:
Erin1975 · Yesterday 17:47

The UK hasn't built a new reservoir for decades. I suspect privatising the water companies may have diverted focus from providing water to making profits.

Limeandfigs · Yesterday 17:47

liquidfinch · Yesterday 17:46

Same can be said about fossil fuels - should we keep using them just because pension funds haven't all divested? Assuming you think moving away from fossil fuels is a good idea of course!

Not at all, I think a wholesale move away from fossil fuels is needed. But I'm not the one muttering darkly on the internet about fatcat shareholders when I'm reaping the benefits of being one of those fatcat shareholders.

liquidfinch · Yesterday 17:48

BlueMum16 · Yesterday 17:45

Don't believe the crap you read online. If there is a hose ban it is to prevent us running out of water to ensure we have supplies for the rest of the year and into what could be a dry winter.

Golf courses are businesses so like other businesses they have different rules. We don't restrict other business for pulling on water. All businesses are also on a meter so are paying for every drop used.

A hose will literally use hundreds of litres in a hour, more than your family would use in a couple of days of normal use.

Get your water can out, have a water butt. If everyone plays their part then the ban won't last as long.

Trees don't use surface water. A quick Google says it from well below the surface. Also it will have rained in the past few weeks so below the surface is still damp.

Many large trees utilize deep taproots to pull moisture from 20 to 30 feet down, and in extreme arid environments, some species can draw water from depths exceeding 100 feet

"Trees don't user surface water" as if all trees are the same and all root systems are the same.

Do you actually know anything about trees or are you relying on AI summaries and google result headlines?

OP posts:
ChardonnaysBeastlyCat · Yesterday 17:48

I’m happy to use a watering can I infuse the grey water from the bath fur my plants.

What worries me though is that there is no planning.

The population is surging, new buildings are popping up
everywhere. Where is the water going to come from for all of this with the climate change?

All the water companies care about is profit, most of which goes to overseas investors and extracting water from the rivers.

No investment, no solving the sewage problem.

Saltysweetspicy · Yesterday 17:49

Whynottryagain · Yesterday 17:41

It's not the water company's fault there are too many new builds.

I didn't say it was. But do you not think they should be putting in the infrastructure to cope with current demands (they haven't) let alone increasing ones? It's literally their job to provide us with water, and they don't. I don't know where you are but it's pretty bad here.

Gizlotsmum · Yesterday 17:49

Saltysweetspicy · Yesterday 17:31

I personally won't be using a hosepipe because I don't normally.

I won't be reporting anyone that does.

I'm at the point I don't care if we run out for a few days (as long as they get water to the most needy) because that is a fucking disgrace and then it will make national, maybe international news and maybe, just maybe, the water companies will be made to do something.

So I kind of hope people don't comply.

If we all just respect their ban, they don't need to do anything or pull a finger out at all.

Where we are, there is a hosepipe ban, the company have admitted they can't keep up with the demand, and yet their are thousands of new houses being built. Someone who has recently moved into a new build near me says their water pressure is basically non existent.

Like I said, I hope people don't comply.

Not to defend them completely ( leakage needs to be sorted). But water companies are not a consultee on planting applications unless the EA or council ask for their opinion so if new builds are built in a low capacity area they just have to manage it as best they can. Not helped by their investment being funded on a 5 yr programme

rainbowruthie · Yesterday 17:50

JulietteHasAGun · Yesterday 17:23

If you’re disabled you can use a hosepipe?

do you need a blue badge or will a diagnosis of something count?

You need to contact your water company and request to be put on their Priority Service list

Glitchymn1 · Yesterday 17:51

Limeandfigs · Yesterday 17:03

If we keep having these heatwaves AND hosepipe bans the future is going to become utterly unbearable.

Well yes, this is the problem with global warming.

If you think hosepipe bans are bad wait until we start getting Mediterranean-style water rationing in the next decade. Without new reservoirs and without more rain that's where we're heading.

^This.

Those saying pfft I won’t comply… well you will be. You’ll be made to. We will probably need to buy bottled drinking water depending how we use it.

To answer OP, we have water butts. I’ll use the hose to fill the pool but I’ve only done this once as DD wasn’t bothered and it’s not a huge pool.

Tableforjoan · Yesterday 17:52

I do actually have waterbutts 6 in fact.

Food crops are exempt which is a lot of our garden so my only naughty would be topping up the pool.

Which I guess I could do with the watering can since the taps next to the pool 😅

BoldAquaOP · Yesterday 17:52

There is a low supply where I live, last night some people didn’t have any water on our road for a few hours, we’ve had a hosepipe ban since 23rd June.
my next door neighbour is always out with his hose, watering his grass, washing his car, washing his shitty driveway, washing whatever he can find, he’s a selfish idiot.

Whynottryagain · Yesterday 17:55

IsawwhatIsaw · Yesterday 17:34

Completely agree. Shameful that water was ever privatised.
And now water companies are pop saying eye watering executive salaries whilst being loaded with debt whilst asking for bail outs.
We also have ? 15 million higher population than in 1976 with minimal new reservoirs.

You really think the government would have invested more in water supply? Given all the cuts in everything else? And that they're driving through their building schemes despite being told water supply will be an issue? No chance.

I read a lot of official documents about this when Corbyn had renationalisation in his manifesto and actually changed my view. A pp is right that most people are shareholders in the water companies via their pension.

liquidfinch · Yesterday 17:55

Limeandfigs · Yesterday 17:47

Not at all, I think a wholesale move away from fossil fuels is needed. But I'm not the one muttering darkly on the internet about fatcat shareholders when I'm reaping the benefits of being one of those fatcat shareholders.

You're saying this as if I've picked what goes into my pension?

Here's my view:

  1. Dear fatcat shareholders, please take your dirty money and stick it up your arse.
  2. Dear pension administrators, please remove water companies from my pension portfolio.

Is there a way to do this by contacting the private pension provider?

Seriously, if you know a way of doing it, please tell us.

OP posts:
BlueMum16 · Yesterday 17:57

liquidfinch · Yesterday 17:48

"Trees don't user surface water" as if all trees are the same and all root systems are the same.

Do you actually know anything about trees or are you relying on AI summaries and google result headlines?

Trees int he countryside don't get watered and manage absolutely fine.

The hose pipe ban doesn't impact them and hasn't for thousands of years

Are you seriously saying water a tree in your garden is more important than people having access to safe drinking water without supply interruptions or issues?

Limeandfigs · Yesterday 17:58

liquidfinch · Yesterday 17:55

You're saying this as if I've picked what goes into my pension?

Here's my view:

  1. Dear fatcat shareholders, please take your dirty money and stick it up your arse.
  2. Dear pension administrators, please remove water companies from my pension portfolio.

Is there a way to do this by contacting the private pension provider?

Seriously, if you know a way of doing it, please tell us.

Of course. You absolutely can self-invest your own pension and choose what it's invested in if you want.

HoraceCope · Yesterday 17:58

fill the water butt up with your hosepipe today

JuliettaCaeser · Yesterday 17:59

Such mismanagement.
its basically rained for
months.

JazzyJelly · Yesterday 18:00

I use the grey waste water from washing up to water my garden. As a previous poster said it takes a while but it's keeping me fit!

hattie43 · Yesterday 18:01

I’d be more inclined to comply if they sorted their bloody leaks out and kept our seas clean

liquidfinch · Yesterday 18:01

Limeandfigs · Yesterday 17:58

Of course. You absolutely can self-invest your own pension and choose what it's invested in if you want.

Does this mean taking my pension funds out and putting it all into a self managed one? Or that I can influence how my current private pension provider allocates my funds?

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Fluffyhoglets · Yesterday 18:03

Whynottryagain · Yesterday 17:36

I absolutely will comply.

Firstly, not to comply is illegal and you can be prosecuted.

Secondly, water is a precious and finite resource. People saying they pay for it so they'll use what they want, or "but leakage", or similar, won't magically make more water appear.

There is low water pressure in Cambs because demand is up massively and they can't maintain thid level of supply because they can't treat it fast enough. Also water abstraction impacts local chalk streams. It's an extremely dry part of the country, it hasn't rained significantly in months and last summer was also dry.

There's also a lot of building in the area which the EA and water companies and previous MP campaigned against, because of water supply issues. They were overruled because Building Targets.

Yes, I have made changes. I have three water butts, and I've also started collecting handwash water and shower water. I've halved my shower time and even in two minutes collected enough run-off to use to wash my hair, THEN reuse to clean the bathroom, and THEN use it to water a quarter of the tubs in the garden.

I've also got a jug of water in the fridge so I don't waste water running the tap cold,and only flushing the toilet after every other wee.

I feel so strongly about this. I'd welcome a thread where instead of people whinging, being entitled and coming up with reasons for not complying, they could instead share practical tips for saving water and actually pull together to help the environment. Everyone wastes so much water every day.

Read about the current state of the Colorado river and other water disasters.

Done alot of water saving myself but it just seems to enable the companies not to supply/invest etc. They need to use the profits to improve things - not pay shareholders. They shouldn't be allowed to extract water and should be forced to build water storage facilities!

Limeandfigs · Yesterday 18:03

liquidfinch · Yesterday 18:01

Does this mean taking my pension funds out and putting it all into a self managed one? Or that I can influence how my current private pension provider allocates my funds?

Edited

You will need to use Google and talk to your pension provider.

OldrNWisr · Yesterday 18:03

We had a water leak on our lane, thousands and thousands of gallons pouring down the drain for months on end before they came to fix it. They can shove their hosepipe bans, I will continue to use the water I pay for and will not be inconveniencing myself due to their appalling mismanagement and incompetence.

Gizlotsmum · Yesterday 18:03

liquidfinch · Yesterday 18:01

Does this mean taking my pension funds out and putting it all into a self managed one? Or that I can influence how my current private pension provider allocates my funds?

Edited

Not sure about your pension but my company pension I can chose how I want the funds invested

likelysuspect · Yesterday 18:04

Ive applied for an exemption and got added to their priority user list but no mention in the letter about any exemption. I cant use a watering can due to disability. We dont have a lawn or pool, its watering my plants that I use it for. I wont comply as I cant.

Meadowfinch · Yesterday 18:04

I'm about a mile outside the Southern Water ban area, but it doesn't matter.

I had a grey water system installed a few years ago. We have a manual switch that sends all the shower and basin water into our water butts. That's about 75 litres a day which is easily enough for our veggies beds, greenhouse, pots and borders. I switch it over in spring (March this year) and back in October. It saves me about £250 a year.

Water companies seem to be managed by greedy selfish incompetent idiots so I'll deal with our water usage myself.