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AIBU to be angry about hosepipe bans and whether people will comply?

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liquidfinch · Yesterday 16:57

AIBU to be so angry about the hosepipe bans and the situation we find ourselves in?!

If we keep having these heatwaves AND hosepipe bans the future is going to become utterly unbearable.

I read somewhere that it's not even about us running out of water this year! The water companies are just worried about having to supply what we need because it will impact their environmental targets (they want to reduce water use per capita).

If they don't hit these targets it could reduce their bonuses and/or they might be fined.

These bans will have enormous adverse impacts on nature and ecosystems.

If we can't water our gardens, plants and parks wildlife will suffer. Pollinators especially. I think it's appalling.

Are you ready for the hosepipe ban?

Have you taken any measures (buying water butts, filling up pools) to mitigate the impact this will have on your normal routine/enjoyment of your home/garden/life?

Most importantly: are you going to comply?

  • Cambridge Water:
Active as of July 9, and enforceable from 1am on Friday, July 17.
  • Southern Water:
Enforced starting from 1am on July 11.
  • South East Water:
Enforced starting from July 18.
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liquidfinch · Yesterday 22:34

Baital · Yesterday 22:28

Well, your argument seems to be that some people (water company bosses) are in the wrong, and therefore you can ignore the needs of the rest of your community.

As I said, by all means be selfish. But as you started the thread, don't expect other people to refrain from pointing out that you are being selfish.

You keep repeating the same comment over and over again, although this time without using the word jerk or talking about dog crap (well done!).

I get your perspective. I disagree with your framing.

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TheYorkshirePudding · Yesterday 22:34

I’ll never comply to such nonsense. They take our money. We are surrounded by water as an island - find a solution there. Same as recycling - it’s always put on us working folk to be feeling guilty etc but companies like Tesco can’t be arsed carrying the ‘recycle at large supermarket’ type plastic.

Baital · Yesterday 22:34

liquidfinch · Yesterday 22:34

You keep repeating the same comment over and over again, although this time without using the word jerk or talking about dog crap (well done!).

I get your perspective. I disagree with your framing.

My heart bleeds for you

Baital · Yesterday 22:42

liquidfinch · Yesterday 22:34

You keep repeating the same comment over and over again, although this time without using the word jerk or talking about dog crap (well done!).

I get your perspective. I disagree with your framing.

So, you have listened to the counter arguments, and accepted that your original post was wrong.

Fair enough, and good for you for being open to listening to different opinions.

But then you can't quite admit it. You have to deflect and attack someone who made a different argument. One you have accepted was right. So you attack the way they made the argument.

Ved · Yesterday 22:42

I've got about 500 flowers in my garden, including 60 or so sunflowers, and dozens of plants, so no I won't be stopping watering them with the hose. Like hell will I be watering so many flowers with a watering can. I would still be using the same amount of water, it's just that it would take me 3 hours instead of 30 minutes.

No ban here though. (Severn Trent area.)

Dontgetstuckinthepast · Yesterday 22:43

"If we can't water our gardens, plants and parks wildlife will suffer. Pollinators especially. I think it's appalling."

Why do you need a hosepipe for this? A watering can or washing up bowl of used water does the job. If you have a large garden install several water butts. Plant wisely and only water critical plants and veg. Teasel stores water for insects and bees feed on the pollen. Make sure there's water for birds and hedgehogs too.

Ved · Yesterday 22:45

TheYorkshirePudding · Yesterday 22:34

I’ll never comply to such nonsense. They take our money. We are surrounded by water as an island - find a solution there. Same as recycling - it’s always put on us working folk to be feeling guilty etc but companies like Tesco can’t be arsed carrying the ‘recycle at large supermarket’ type plastic.

Good point! My water bill for last year was £700. As you say, we are surrounded by water, and we're not a huge island. They need to sort themselves out!

liquidfinch · Yesterday 22:47

Baital · Yesterday 22:42

So, you have listened to the counter arguments, and accepted that your original post was wrong.

Fair enough, and good for you for being open to listening to different opinions.

But then you can't quite admit it. You have to deflect and attack someone who made a different argument. One you have accepted was right. So you attack the way they made the argument.

If you feel attacked - after calling me a selfish jerk over and over again - because I'm not taking the bait on your fairly aggro posts, then you may want to consider going outside and taking a breather?

Perfect weather for it!

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Baital · Yesterday 22:48

Ved · Yesterday 22:45

Good point! My water bill for last year was £700. As you say, we are surrounded by water, and we're not a huge island. They need to sort themselves out!

Right. So you are happy with water rationing.

Just to clarify, the water we are surrounded by is salt water. It doesn't provide drinking water or water suitable for plants

Baital · Yesterday 22:49

liquidfinch · Yesterday 22:47

If you feel attacked - after calling me a selfish jerk over and over again - because I'm not taking the bait on your fairly aggro posts, then you may want to consider going outside and taking a breather?

Perfect weather for it!

Bless!

IsYourTableClothed · Yesterday 22:50

Honestly, they are fucking useless.

liquidfinch · Yesterday 22:52

Dontgetstuckinthepast · Yesterday 22:43

"If we can't water our gardens, plants and parks wildlife will suffer. Pollinators especially. I think it's appalling."

Why do you need a hosepipe for this? A watering can or washing up bowl of used water does the job. If you have a large garden install several water butts. Plant wisely and only water critical plants and veg. Teasel stores water for insects and bees feed on the pollen. Make sure there's water for birds and hedgehogs too.

Unless you are using eco friendly soap/detergent, using grey water in your garden will harm the microbiome. Otherwise agree.

To answer your question, need a hosepipe because there is a lot of ground to cover.

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Baital · Yesterday 22:53

liquidfinch · Yesterday 22:47

If you feel attacked - after calling me a selfish jerk over and over again - because I'm not taking the bait on your fairly aggro posts, then you may want to consider going outside and taking a breather?

Perfect weather for it!

You know, you can just say that on reflection you have changed your mind.

Love and peace.

Esmeraldathe3rd · Yesterday 22:54

Nah I'll be doing what I want. We have appalling water pressure due to a leak, a good chunk of our neighbours are affected. Water comp don't see it as their issue, but it's not actually on our property and clearly a way up the road since it's affecting multiple lines. If they're happy to lose all that water then imma assume they don't really care that my hosepipe has been filling my pool for 2 days.

LakieLady · Yesterday 22:54

Tableforjoan · Yesterday 17:20

Though golf courses are always exempt. I take offence to that tbh.

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I think they should have to have under ground tanks like petrol stations where they harvest rain water as their water for droughts.

Edited

I totally agree about golf courses. I think it's scandalous that they're allowed to water them when there are water shortages.

Mind you, it's also scandalous that water companies are privatised and they'd rather make profits for their shareholders than invest in infrastructure and maintenance.

liquidfinch · Yesterday 22:58

Esmeraldathe3rd · Yesterday 22:54

Nah I'll be doing what I want. We have appalling water pressure due to a leak, a good chunk of our neighbours are affected. Water comp don't see it as their issue, but it's not actually on our property and clearly a way up the road since it's affecting multiple lines. If they're happy to lose all that water then imma assume they don't really care that my hosepipe has been filling my pool for 2 days.

Contact your local newspaper if you haven't already

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LakieLady · Yesterday 23:00

TamzinGrey · Yesterday 18:28

I am a South East Water customer in Kent and your dates are wrong. We've had a hosepipe ban here since 26 June, enforceable from 3 July - just a couple of weeks after the hot weather started.

We were informed that the hosepipe ban was not due to a lack of water. SEW admitted that the reservoirs were full after a very wet winter and lots of early spring rain.

Apparently the water shortage was because we inconvenient people were demanding lots of water at the same time when it suddenly became hot, and the SEW drinking water treatment facilities couldn't cope with the extra demand.

Before the hosepipe ban even started they were deliberately reducing and even completely switching off water supplies to villages in my area and supplying bottled water instead.

So in other words SEW have been paying loads of money to their shareholders without investing anything in their infrastructure.

Yes I will comply with the ban, but it's really difficult lugging heavy watering cans around at my age, and I actually think that I am using more water using this method to water my pots than I did with the hose.

You'd think SE Water would have plenty, given that a good chunk of Kent had no mains water for weeks earlier in the year.

Every night for a couple of weeks, SE News was showing footage of people queuing for ages to collect bottled water from distribution depots.

NCForOneNightOnly · Yesterday 23:05

I’m exempt from hosepipe bans. It’s worth looking into if you have a physical disability. Where I am If you have a mobility condition where carrying cans and containers would cause you physical difficulties then you can get an exemption.

It’s always amusing when the neighbours get all irate and put complaints in about me because they think they are grassing me up 😂

I get a very nice email as confirmation that I’m exempt from the ban.

NCForOneNightOnly · Yesterday 23:05

Sorry it posted my message twice.

Tableforjoan · Yesterday 23:06

Auto pots are good for running off a water butt. It’s how I do my chilli poly tunnel.

PippaJJ · Yesterday 23:09

I am disabled, and I am on the priority register. I will for the most part avoid using hosepipes and my water usage is generally low.
However excess heat is very dangerous for me personally. The coolest room I have is currently, at 11pm, 27c. I do all the right things with covering windows, shutting the sun out and reducing solar gain when it's warmer outside, then opening everything up and setting up air flow throughout the building when it's cooler.
I do have one of the metal frame above ground pools, and I will keep topping it up. In this heat I'm in the pool any time I'm not at work or sleeping.
My only other alternative would be to have air-conditioning installed, and ignoring the price of installation plus running costs, until recently, I've seen the pool as less costly to the environment, but if we're now going to be getting heatwaves from May to what, October? I'm seriously looking at air to air heat pumps (with solar panels)

LakieLady · Yesterday 23:11

BlueMum16 · Yesterday 18:51

Flooding and waste water is impacted by the growth in housing and our changing lifestyles.

Back in the 80s people had lawns that soaked away the rain, now we have patios, driveways and even fake grass. We're building houses, businesses and roads massively which all reduces where the surface water can drain and be absorbed naturally. More houses and roads puts surface water into the sewer (which were originally designed for sewage only and not sewage.

More houses and population means more showers, more toilet flushes, more going down the drain and the sewers were built over 100 years ago and weren't designed to cope with this mean people.

I know in my area they are improving sewers and creating storage to hold the waste going forwards so it can be be processed over a few days and hopefully avoid flooding. We got a letter explaining it with this year's bill in the hope to explain the increase in my bill.

You're spot on about housing, and other building, too.

They built a supermarket and an industrial estate at the lowest point in the town where I live, which is alongside a river. The land used to be water meadows, and the first time we had a very wet autumn, the river came over its banks. Where it would have been soaked up by the water meadows, it just poured across the supermarket car park and industrial estate, and flooded 800 homes.

A couple of years later, they spent a small fortune on flood defences.

Ved · Yesterday 23:11

Baital · Yesterday 22:48

Right. So you are happy with water rationing.

Just to clarify, the water we are surrounded by is salt water. It doesn't provide drinking water or water suitable for plants

You have never heard of desalination then?

We can absolutely use seawater for human consumption through desalination. In fact, millions of people worldwide rely on it daily for their drinking water, especially in arid coastal regions like the Middle East and parts of Australia.

Ved · Yesterday 23:12

As I said, Severn Trent have no hosepipe ban anyway, so I will keep on using it.

liquidfinch · Yesterday 23:14

PippaJJ · Yesterday 23:09

I am disabled, and I am on the priority register. I will for the most part avoid using hosepipes and my water usage is generally low.
However excess heat is very dangerous for me personally. The coolest room I have is currently, at 11pm, 27c. I do all the right things with covering windows, shutting the sun out and reducing solar gain when it's warmer outside, then opening everything up and setting up air flow throughout the building when it's cooler.
I do have one of the metal frame above ground pools, and I will keep topping it up. In this heat I'm in the pool any time I'm not at work or sleeping.
My only other alternative would be to have air-conditioning installed, and ignoring the price of installation plus running costs, until recently, I've seen the pool as less costly to the environment, but if we're now going to be getting heatwaves from May to what, October? I'm seriously looking at air to air heat pumps (with solar panels)

We've run out of air conditioners in the UK so, sadly for a lot of people that really need it, that option is not even available at the moment.

I feel for you, sounds though! Best of luck and take care of your self x

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