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AIBU to be angry about hosepipe bans and whether people will comply?

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liquidfinch · Yesterday 16:57

AIBU to be so angry about the hosepipe bans and the situation we find ourselves in?!

If we keep having these heatwaves AND hosepipe bans the future is going to become utterly unbearable.

I read somewhere that it's not even about us running out of water this year! The water companies are just worried about having to supply what we need because it will impact their environmental targets (they want to reduce water use per capita).

If they don't hit these targets it could reduce their bonuses and/or they might be fined.

These bans will have enormous adverse impacts on nature and ecosystems.

If we can't water our gardens, plants and parks wildlife will suffer. Pollinators especially. I think it's appalling.

Are you ready for the hosepipe ban?

Have you taken any measures (buying water butts, filling up pools) to mitigate the impact this will have on your normal routine/enjoyment of your home/garden/life?

Most importantly: are you going to comply?

  • Cambridge Water:
Active as of July 9, and enforceable from 1am on Friday, July 17.
  • Southern Water:
Enforced starting from 1am on July 11.
  • South East Water:
Enforced starting from July 18.
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Baital · Yesterday 18:45

Octavia64 · Yesterday 18:32

I live near Cambridge and yes the area is often short of water and has been for years.

i don’t use a hosepipe anyway.

can anyone offer advice on a water butt? Is it as simple as just buy one or do they come in different types?

Look at Raincatcher for flat ones that attach to the side of your house. A bit pricey but a good use of space. The traditional ones are round barrels so stick.out more, but if you have the space then they are good value.

I have a simple gutter on a sloped roof into a traditional barrel type on the garden shed. Then a couple of Raincatcher 200l slimline tanks that connect to the down pipe on the house.

Though as I said, they have now run out after being full from the thunderstorms a few weeks ago. I need to add to them, this is only going to get worse.

sandalbed · Yesterday 18:47

@BlueMum16thanks, I just water my pots

Baital · Yesterday 18:49

RoseBlueuet · Yesterday 18:45

Really surprised at the poll results. Baffles me how so many still aren't angry enough at the water companies, and what is in fact a national scandal and criminal in some cases. We all know what they pay themselves, the decay and disrepair, the raw sewage pumped into our waters, the astronomic bills everyone pays.. Yet still such apathy.

YANBU OP. doesn't affect me but damn right I would still use my hose pipe!

Because most of us can understand that it's possible to disagree with the way water companies are structured and managed, and also accept we have a responsibility for the way we use a scarce resource.

liquidfinch · Yesterday 18:51

Anyahyacinth · Yesterday 18:36

As others may have said...you'd rather water runs out ...as it has once in the South East already this year, or water be extracted from our rivers??

Maybe your outrage could be channelled to demanding investment from those water companies / stopping ridiculous executive bonuses etc...? Technologies to store water etc..

There are lots of water campaign groups

You are right, we should push for re-nationalisation and investment into technologies.

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BlueMum16 · Yesterday 18:51

Cobrakainerd · Yesterday 18:29

Don't worry, the endless grey, rainy days will soon be back. 😉 We had months of endless rain, flooding everywhere but the moment the sun comes out its hosepipe ban season.
I remember as a teenager in the early 80s being told that we would have Mediterranean style gardens before 2000 because there wouldn't be much rain. For 8 months a year my garden resembles a swamp!
Yes, by all means we should preserve our natural resources, but then we can't argue for greater building requirements, immigration that requires more building, and all the associated land requisition. We need to use the resources we have more efficiently, keep flood plains managed, water companies need to actually do what is required, not looking at profit! They are there to supply water, not make a few rich!.

Flooding and waste water is impacted by the growth in housing and our changing lifestyles.

Back in the 80s people had lawns that soaked away the rain, now we have patios, driveways and even fake grass. We're building houses, businesses and roads massively which all reduces where the surface water can drain and be absorbed naturally. More houses and roads puts surface water into the sewer (which were originally designed for sewage only and not sewage.

More houses and population means more showers, more toilet flushes, more going down the drain and the sewers were built over 100 years ago and weren't designed to cope with this mean people.

I know in my area they are improving sewers and creating storage to hold the waste going forwards so it can be be processed over a few days and hopefully avoid flooding. We got a letter explaining it with this year's bill in the hope to explain the increase in my bill.

ImPamDoove · Yesterday 18:52

Of course we’d comly. Unless the pond needed water as I didn’t want to kill the fish.

PermanentTemporary · Yesterday 18:52

Posting to say of course I’m going to bloody comply and am truly amazed that anyone won’t.

Now heading over to @Whynottryagain’s positive action on water conservation thread.

AllSerene · Yesterday 18:53

JulietteHasAGun · Yesterday 17:23

If you’re disabled you can use a hosepipe?

do you need a blue badge or will a diagnosis of something count?

I assume the rules are pretty standard, across the different water companies, but for Southern Water, you must be a Blue Badge holder, a registered WaterSure customer, or be on their Priority Services Register.
You must also have a mobility or health condition that physically prevents you from using a watering can or bucket

As an aside, if you are disabled, it's well worth getting yourself on your water company's Priority Service Register. Quite apart from hosepipe bans, it means that if there are any interruptions in supply, they should bring you a supply of bottled water to tide you over, rather than you having to get yourself to a local collection point.

SooPanda · Yesterday 18:55

It’s baffling that people are talking about running out of water when our winters are so very wet. It’s just not stored or processed well enough and the money isn’t being used to replace pipes etc to meet the increasing pressure on them.
England’s just had its 8th wettest winter on record.

liquidfinch · Yesterday 18:57

Meadowfinch · Yesterday 18:38

A basic water butt sits beside your gutter downpipe. It sends rain from your roof & gutters into the water butt until it is full and then overflows back down your downpipe into the drain.

You can buy a kit at any DIY shop or order online. You'll also need a hacksaw to cut the pipes to length and some gutter sealant. Or ask your plumber to fit it for you.

Just bear in mind you need to think about what materials your roof is made of. For example if you have any lead on your roof you don't use that water for crops

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Baital · Yesterday 19:04

liquidfinch · Yesterday 18:57

Just bear in mind you need to think about what materials your roof is made of. For example if you have any lead on your roof you don't use that water for crops

That's pretty rare, surely? Most people will have tiles.

And even then, the rainwater can be used for all the other needs of the garden.

liquidfinch · Yesterday 19:05

Baital · Yesterday 18:49

Because most of us can understand that it's possible to disagree with the way water companies are structured and managed, and also accept we have a responsibility for the way we use a scarce resource.

I disagree with the way you have framed it but either way it's 50 50 so there is no "most of us" at the moment

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MyLimeGuide · Yesterday 19:07

ByKindOpalPoet · Yesterday 17:39

well when this becomes routine and we have droughts all because entitled people think that rules don't apply to them and they can waste water we know who to blame then don't we

FFS stop being entitled and put the fucking hosepipe away. it won't kill you to use a watering can.

just because you think we aren't running out of water doesn't make it true, if we continue with the weather we are having then yes we fucking will run out of water and entitled selfish idiots like you will not fucking help, the reservoirs will be dry or near dry especially if we continue to have little to no rain, and this will have a knock on effect over the rest of the year. but I get it, you are entitled and think fuck it I don't give a shit about everyone else, I'm going to continue to use my hosepipe and fuck the local community and everyone else.

you do realise we have very little new reservoirs right? you do realise what happens to them when we have very little rain?

no the bans are in place to try and force selfish entitled idiots like you to stop fucking wasting water.

Can't be arsed with fucking entitled selfish idiots who will be the first to throw a tantrum when they have no water and they have to go and stand in a queue to get bottled water without acknowledging that they are part of the fucking reason that has happened

Well you clearly can be arsed cant you with your angry post!! Water is here for us to use, did you not learn about the water cycle in primary school?

canthavetoomanylights · Yesterday 19:07

I won’t comply unless they drastically reduce my bill to compensate.

JulietteHasAGun · Yesterday 19:14

Ok, I’ve googled about the exemption for people with disabilities. You either need a blue badge or be signed up for your water company’s priority service for people with disabilities. So I’ve signed up for that and can now use a hosepipe in a ban. 👍. I do have a diagnosed condition which affects my mobility so am eligible.

OneNewLeader · Yesterday 19:14

I comply, I have 3 water butts for a small garden. I throw the washing up water onto the grass. I lived overseas where water was a precious commodity, so I use it quite sparingly. When I see people pressure washing a patio I always feel a little sad.

JulietteHasAGun · Yesterday 19:15

liquidfinch · Yesterday 18:57

Just bear in mind you need to think about what materials your roof is made of. For example if you have any lead on your roof you don't use that water for crops

My water pipes are lead 🫣😆. I drink the stuff never mind water the veg with it.

liquidfinch · Yesterday 19:17

JulietteHasAGun · Yesterday 19:15

My water pipes are lead 🫣😆. I drink the stuff never mind water the veg with it.

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JulietteHasAGun · Yesterday 19:18

liquidfinch · Yesterday 19:17

Oh...

I’m meant to run the tap for five mins every morning but have never bothered. Lived here 30 years and no sign of lead poisoning yet.

Fibrous · Yesterday 19:19

liquidfinch · Yesterday 18:20

Sounds lovely. However they might struggle later this year if it gets cold and rainy (I trust you will prepare for that in various ways. Good luck!!)

They’re raised up (front garden is above street level) so the soil is free draining which is the key criteria. I also used a few species that self seed easily. No losses so far. I used a mix of salvias, nepeta, grasses (Seslaria, sporobolous, Stipa), santolina, Stachys, and then allowed teasel, foxgloves, and lychnis to self seed. Then alliums and muscari. It’s all knitted together really well. I’m moving away from having pots except really big ones.

CalmWriter · Yesterday 19:20

I will use a hosepipe regardless of any ban. Especially given my water company ignored a mains water leak on our high street for 13 days.

cratehater · Yesterday 19:22

They can’t police the bans. There’s literally nothing they can do. It relies on neighbours reporting each other and there being an immediate response which is unlikely!

Water companies and the government need to set it out themselves. Turning a blind eye to data centres consuming huge amounts of water.

Pippin2017 · Yesterday 19:22

Probablylate21 · Yesterday 18:15

This just sounds rather unhygienic tbh. I’d rather use my hosepipe

Don't be daft.

liquidfinch · Yesterday 19:25

JulietteHasAGun · Yesterday 19:18

I’m meant to run the tap for five mins every morning but have never bothered. Lived here 30 years and no sign of lead poisoning yet.

Five minutes?!

Wonder how many properties in the UK need to do this and how much water is wasted that way (even if most don't bother).

Did you know you might be able to get grants/subsidies for changing those through an approved plumber? Check with your water company if you are interested in that although after 30 years I'm guessing maybe not

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liquidfinch · Yesterday 19:28

cratehater · Yesterday 19:22

They can’t police the bans. There’s literally nothing they can do. It relies on neighbours reporting each other and there being an immediate response which is unlikely!

Water companies and the government need to set it out themselves. Turning a blind eye to data centres consuming huge amounts of water.

I believe there are have been virtually 0 prosecutions or fines issued.

With the backlog for prosecutions of more serious crimes can you imagine people getting prosecuted for using water? Ridiculous!

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