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AIBU to expect my partner to clean up after himself?

57 replies

JFavKnight · 09/07/2026 15:46

I'm looking for some outside perspectives because I'm starting to question myself.
We have a 4-month-old who is formula fed. At the moment, I do all of the night feeds, even on nights before my partner has a day off.
I also want to be fair. My partner works full-time and has Ankylosing Spondylitis. I haven't said anything about him starting the gym again because I genuinely hope it'll help him feel better both mentally and physically. I know exercise can help him, and if he's feeling happier, I think it'll benefit all of us.
One morning, I fed our son, changed him and settled him back to sleep. My partner got up later, listed a few items on Vinted that he's hoping to resell, went to post some parcels and brought us home breakfast.
After breakfast, he left the packaging on the dining table and later went upstairs for a nap. I went upstairs to get some washing, expecting him to be asleep by then, but he was still awake. I asked if, after he'd had his nap, he could clear away the breakfast packaging and bring the empty water bottles he'd left beside the bed downstairs to be recycled.
He became angry and called me selfish.
The thing is, this isn't really about one bit of rubbish. I could easily have thrown it away myself. I'm just tired of feeling like I'm expected to clean up after another adult.
I've recently stopped picking up his dirty socks and underwear from around the house and stopped automatically tidying up after him because I don't think that should be my responsibility. I've spoken to him about how it makes me feel before. His response is usually that I only have to ask and he'll do it, but I don't feel I should have to keep asking for basic things like putting clothes in the laundry basket or throwing away rubbish.
During the argument, he also told me I was "not cut out to be a wife."
He often calls me selfish or controlling. I do like the house to be clean and tidy, but I don't think my expectations are excessive.
For example, one reason he has called me selfish before was because we both woke up when the baby needed feeding and I didn't ask if he was okay. I later found out he'd been having heart palpitations, but at the time I had no idea. I was also in pain with my back and was focused on feeding and settling our baby.
To be fair to him, he works hard, buys breakfast or treats sometimes, and says he's trying to contribute by making extra money through Vinted. I do appreciate those things.
I don't mind doing the general household jobs like washing up, laundry and cleaning. What I'm struggling with is feeling like I also have to pick up after another adult. Combined with doing all of the night feeds and a lot of the day-to-day parenting, I'm starting to feel overwhelmed.
I'm genuinely looking for balanced opinions because I don't want this to become an echo chamber where everyone simply agrees with me. If I'm expecting too much, I'd like to hear that too.
Am I being unreasonable for wanting him to clean up after himself and share more of the mental and physical load of family life, or am I missing his perspective?

OP posts:
GertrudePerkinsPaperyThing · 09/07/2026 15:50

You’re obviously not being U in any respect, but if you do all the night feeds, why did he need a nap. Surely you should have been the one getting a nap?

midJulytarget · 09/07/2026 15:56

Someone's not cut out to be a spouse, and it isn't you.

I'm afraid you need to accept this is who he is, and make a decision from there. I'm really sorry.

Do not bother talking to him, as some people might suggest. I can't imagine what type of person is this selfish, but a few well-chosen words would turn him around. Waste of time.

You'll be ok OP.

Gardenisablooming · 09/07/2026 15:59

Ask him genuinely what sort of relationship he hopes to have with your dc as he's growing up..
Ime the parent who does the most 'donkey work 'IE the one who bathes/nurses poorly dc /does bedtime /reads books /is present is the one with the best relationships all the way through childhood into adulthood and beyond..
I once asked my first dh this..his answer horrified me.

He hasn't seen ds since he was 7..
Current dh has always been an In The Thick Of It of...
Your dp is no partner or df imo..

AnneLovesGilbert · 09/07/2026 15:59

I've spoken to him about how it makes me feel before. His response is usually that I only have to ask and he'll do it, but I don't feel I should have to keep asking for basic things like putting clothes in the laundry basket or throwing away rubbish.

I always wonder when I read things like this on here, and it crops up often so you’re not alone, why these men aren’t ashamed to admit to such uselessness, laziness, lack of self respect. Why should anyone need to tell him to clean up after himself, never mind his partner who’s doing sole care of a tiny baby. Does he expect you to like, fancy or respect him when he also expects you to treat him like your child? My 3 year old puts his dirty clothes in the wash basket.

Given the disgusting way he speaks to you I realise this isn’t the main issue and I think you know your relationship won’t last much longer as he treats you with contempt but I wonder at what point in a relationship things become like this. When you started dating did he manage to pick up his own pants and put his rubbish in the bin? If so when and why did he stop bothering? He sounds like a crashing disappointment of a man and a dad. You deserve so much better 💐

AmberUser · 09/07/2026 16:02

Awful man needs to give his head a wobble and stop treating you like his mum.

SUPerSaver721 · 09/07/2026 16:04

Honestly if I was you I would leave him. Hes lazy, mean and not a great husband. He thinks your there to do everything. Hes the selfish one not you. I want to tell you he wont improve just get worse.

TheyGrewUp · 09/07/2026 16:06

Firstly @JFavKnight you have my absolite sympathy. Having to pick up dirty socks, etc, strewn about the place, and thrown away rubbish is unacceptable whether he is sick or well.

However, part of my job involves Occupational Health, and over the last 20 years I have seen three complex employment issues concerning staff with Ankylosing Spondylitis. In each case a once high performing person has become, vexatious, rude and unreasonable. There is no recognised link with AS and MH but I have chatted this through with one of pur physicians whose view is that chronic pain will impact conduct and behaviour.

It sounds like you, and your DP, have a rough road ahead and need to learn ways of supporting each other. I'm not an automatic fan of therapy but suspect your circumstances may warrant ti.

Congrats on your baby and all the best for the future.

Myfridgeiscool · 09/07/2026 16:11

Your H sounds like my ex. I also wasn’t a ‘no cut out to be a wife’. I refused to pick up his dirty clothes and rubbish.
I don’t miss him.
It's highly likely to get worse OP, sorry.

Auntbessiespuddingsarenaff · 09/07/2026 16:15

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Auntbessiespuddingsarenaff · 09/07/2026 16:15

I can't give advice about making you DH pull his weight.

What I will say is that having any more children may not be a good idea.

Ankylosing spondilitis is a degenerative disease with an unpredictable outcome. Although it is not fatal it can impinge on movement and reduce mobility to various degrees, sometimes severely.

I'm sure you have studied this so I'll say no more.

Cornishclio · 09/07/2026 16:15

Well you asked him to clear up and he got angry so YANBU. He isn’t a child and you are not his mum. What does he mean you aren’t cut out to be a wife? What does he think a wife does? Is he one of these misogynistic me. Who thinks women are there to run after men clearing up after them? If so uggh I would ditch him unless he changes.

Unexpectedlysinglemum · 09/07/2026 16:29

Ugh gross. I wouldn’t live with some who makes nasty jabs and character attacks like that at you it will make you unhealthy.
you will never be able to win with him : just ask me! (You ask) -you’re selfish and will be a bad wife!
this is text book projection as he has just done a selfish thing

LovesLabradors · 09/07/2026 16:46

YANBU and this is really tough, because it seems to be how a lot of marriages (my own included) fall into place over time, and it gets worse after you've had children.

As soon as you become wife & mother a proportion of men begin to see your wifely responsibilities as clearing up after THEM, and your motherly responsibilities as caring for THEM.

One of the reasons my marriage broke down (after many years) was that we stopped being a team, and I was expected to do absolutely everything - he would literally stand up from the dinner table, leaving his plate there, or open post or packages and just leave everything on the side. He never once cleaned a toilet in our entire relationship. Me asking him to do anything would result in him pushing the job onto one of the children, or an argument. He would constantly moan about the house being a mess too. I think some men are just hard-wired into this thought process - "it's the wife's job to do that" and we get called crap wives for not putting up with it.

I wish I had an answer for you OP, but if I did, I'd probably still be married.

fireandlightening · 09/07/2026 17:24

One of the great joys of leaving my ex was that I wouldn't have to pick up a sock off the floor again! Your soon-to-be-ex-I-hope is a manbaby. But this couldn't have happened overnight and I have no doubt he's always been like that, so he is unlikely to change. Can you swap him for an adult?

mondaytosunday · 09/07/2026 17:42

But you have asked and he threw a strop!
Just leave his stuff. You may like a tidy house but if it’s his dude of the bed leave it. And don’t wash clothes that aren’t in the basket. As for the rest - if you can bear it shove stuff to the side and do your own thing . Really what is wrong with some people?

Izzasaurus · 09/07/2026 18:00

It sounds like it's understandable to find this frustrating and good that you're trying to set some boundaries. It sounds especially annoying that he has said he'll do things if you ask him (which you rightly point out shouldn't be your job), but seems to call you controlling when you DO ask! No win for you!

I suppose I'm curious about exactly what sort of problem you have on your hands here. The options that occur to me are:

  1. a 'he thinks you should do it really' problem. If this is the case, whatever he might say, he believes deep down that it is your job to do these things.
  2. a lack of noticing problem. If it's this, perhaps he does believe he should be doing it but it doesn't occur to him in the moment, or he can walk past these things without them jumping out at him for attention. Then perhaps he gets grumpy when you point out he hasn't done stuff because he feels embarrassed or whatever.
  3. a different standards problem. If it's this, perhaps he knows these things need to be done, and doesn't mind doing them, and would get to them eventually, but really doesn't want to do them on the same time scale as you - ie he is prepared to let it lie for way longer than you are, and therefore feels controlled and attacked when you ask him to do stuff.

If it is number 1, the prospects aren't great (some people do change but not as often or as reliably as we might hope).

If it is 2 or 3, there is probably a way forward. I got some great advice on here once about agreeing with my DH on a minimum standard for how we wanted rooms to be left by the end of the day, and us both dedicating 15 mins each evening to tidying around to try to reach that standard. We don't always stick to it these days but it helped to get us out of a rut of mutual frustration. In an ideal world my DH and I both wish the other would do some things differently (I like the kitchen cleaned promptly after a meal whilst he's happy for plates to chill in the sink a while; I'm atrocious with putting my clean clothes away promptly whilst he's good at it; he has a low tolerance for dog hair on the carpet whilst I don't notice it until it gets terrible, but our positions seem entirely reversed when it comes to the cleanliness of the bathroom; he will let the bin fill to bursting whilst I can't stand it bulging). But I think agreeing a minimum standard together, and discussing what you can let go of and what you can't, helps to improve th atmosphere.

Again, though, it won't help you much with problem number 1.

U53rName · 09/07/2026 18:18

Awkward question: Why did you choose to have a baby with this manchild?

JFavKnight · 09/07/2026 23:44

GertrudePerkinsPaperyThing · 09/07/2026 15:50

You’re obviously not being U in any respect, but if you do all the night feeds, why did he need a nap. Surely you should have been the one getting a nap?

Because of his Ankylosing Spondylitis his back starts playing up which means he can't sleep 😕

OP posts:
Wingwalk · 10/07/2026 00:05

JFavKnight · 09/07/2026 23:44

Because of his Ankylosing Spondylitis his back starts playing up which means he can't sleep 😕

Great, if he's not sleeping anyway he can do the night feeds and you can sleep, then he can nap (or not) in the day?

bouncybunny12 · 10/07/2026 07:33

LTB, he sounds like a nasty, lazy dickhead.

MickyMoonshine · 10/07/2026 07:58

No, you shouldn’t have to ask. But you did ask and he kicked off and told you you’re not a good wife - this tells you he thinks you should be doing it all for him. It’s misogyny plain and simple.
While I understand his condition might have an impact on what he can do, it shouldn’t stop him prioritising the household/childcare tasks he can contribute to.

aLFIESMA · 10/07/2026 08:12

This situation changed for me when I stopped trying to explain how mess needed to be tidied, chairs tucked back under the table, washing put in the basket and instead told my DH how it made me feel when he didn't do those things.
He 'got' it despite absolutely not needing the same level of calm, tidy homelife that I do.
He tried to alter his natural tolerance to mess or finishing jobs and I very much tried to help him keep trying!

LadyGardenersQuestionTime · 10/07/2026 08:26

How did he live before he lived with you in terms of mess and cleanliness? Does he care if the rubbish is on the table for a week? Does he actually expect you to pickup stuff as he drops it? Or would he happily wade through it for a week then do a big cleanup?

DH and I have a big mismatch when it comes to household stuff - he is clean and tidy as you go, I am a do-it-all-later person.

We have learned to compromise.

If he is otherwise a good person then I recommend understanding each other’s standards and learning a good middle ground.

Kidsandhouse · 10/07/2026 08:33

His response is usually that I only have to ask and he'll do it

Ok, so. I'm asking. But once should be enough

I say it to my kids... I'm asking you now, and it's an every day, all the time ask. Permanent...

When I say, 'whatever everyday thing is' its not just a today ask...