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To think these theatre prices are outrageous?

226 replies

takeharry · Today 14:24

Currently looking at HAMILTON tickets, now I understand they have a ‘star’ casting in Leslie Odom Jr, original broadway cast but FIVE HUNDRED fucking pounds? For one ticket?

There are a few £250/£275 tickets left but the vast majority left are £500.

AIBU to think there should be some sort of regulatory body to prevent this kind of bullshit pricing?

£1k for a couple to have an evening at the theatre Biscuit

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PermanentTemporary · Today 19:06

Lots of things are shockingly expensive but in fact I don’t think this is shocking at all. Theatre is so terrifyingly expensive to run. They put in a big star to boost publicity and sales and a presumably small group of people decided they want to spend that amount of money for that experience.

I’m just looking back to three years ago when we went to see Dear England at the National for £20 each. An outrageous, wonderful, subsidised bargain. I love that there is everything you can ask for available in live performance here, from £500 for this no doubt unforgettable evening downwards in price but not in quality. I can’t even register this as anything other than positive.

madaboutpurple · Today 19:07

I never go to London for any events. Prices are far cheaper in other tows/cities. The stars might not be there but I have seen a lot of musicals/drama for far less than Westend prices. Of course I can see the point of seeing certain actors but I am never concerned about that aspect. Matinees are often around £15 in other places.

Jjhtgh · Today 19:11

"I would not pay to attend Hamilton if the tickets were £500" is there a reason to make a Mumsnet thread about it?

I wouldn't as well.

ShanghaiDiva · Today 19:12

Jjhtgh · Today 19:11

"I would not pay to attend Hamilton if the tickets were £500" is there a reason to make a Mumsnet thread about it?

I wouldn't as well.

People make threads about all kinds of things, some of which I think are complete bollocks and ignore. You are free to do the same.

takeharry · Today 19:31

Jjhtgh · Today 19:11

"I would not pay to attend Hamilton if the tickets were £500" is there a reason to make a Mumsnet thread about it?

I wouldn't as well.

Yet you have made circa 27 posts on said thread…

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LysistrataSusanCarter · Today 19:42

@takeharry to be fair, you have chosen to cite as an example the most expensive seats at the most expensive West End show at the most expensive time of the year.

London has among the best, if not the best quality and range of shows in the world. It is not like average folk are tragically missing out on cultural capital because they can’t afford to spend 500 quid watching Hamilton.

There are absolutely loads of excellent shows, both in london and beyond at nowhere near that price. This summer, I’ve got tickets for Operation Mincemeat, Glengarry Glenross, a production of Medea in Cambridge, Cats at Regents Park theatre (God help me), Warhorse and Romeo and Juliet at our local stately home. I don’t think any of the tickets cost me more than about 60 quid There are loads of options out there, many excellent quality.

istherereallytimeforallthat · Today 19:50

Waheymum · Today 17:42

It's probably a symptom of a lack of funding in the arts... Previous years may well have had effectively subsidised tickets because grants funded some costs. If there isn't the grant available, companies will need to earn more from sales in order to pay people.

The RBO has announced it is to lay off 64 staff, including some compulsory redundancies.

There is definitely a shortage of funding for the arts.

takeharry · Today 19:55

LysistrataSusanCarter · Today 19:42

@takeharry to be fair, you have chosen to cite as an example the most expensive seats at the most expensive West End show at the most expensive time of the year.

London has among the best, if not the best quality and range of shows in the world. It is not like average folk are tragically missing out on cultural capital because they can’t afford to spend 500 quid watching Hamilton.

There are absolutely loads of excellent shows, both in london and beyond at nowhere near that price. This summer, I’ve got tickets for Operation Mincemeat, Glengarry Glenross, a production of Medea in Cambridge, Cats at Regents Park theatre (God help me), Warhorse and Romeo and Juliet at our local stately home. I don’t think any of the tickets cost me more than about 60 quid There are loads of options out there, many excellent quality.

I chose to cite that because I wanted to discuss that. I understand there are lots of options but the thread wasn’t about theatre pricing in general.

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Tryingtokeepgoing · Today 19:55

TheScreensNurseTheScreens · Today 18:48

But as has been said more than once, you're not paying £500.00 to see Leslie Odom Jr. you're paying that as the cost of the special Charity Ticket, the charity set up by Lin Manuel Miranda and a good one too, almost 50% of the cost in fact. People who can afford the £500.00 limited number tickets will pay that.
At no point did I claim that to be standard theatre pricing No but you did claim there should be a regulatory body to stop it.....what, charity? 🙄

At this risk of adding fuel to the fire, if it’s a ticket specially to raise money for charity, could one offset it against one’s income tax making it ‘only’ cost 53% of £500 or indeed if one’s caught in the ‘losing your personal allowance’ bracket 38% of that. At £190 it’s a bargain ;)

rose69 · Today 20:00

They can charge that amount as people are paying it. There are lots of cheaper theatres to go to and offers to find. Just as there are exclusive jet set holidays or an overnight in a b and b

DjokovicsTowel · Today 20:21

fundamentallyauthentic · Today 18:33

Sorry, I was wrong in my last comment - some of the proceeds of the £500 tickets are indeed going to education and outreach.

When you take the decent charity donation out, £235 is about standard for the best seats in the house in London, especially with star casting

Jjhtgh · Today 20:36

takeharry · Today 19:31

Yet you have made circa 27 posts on said thread…

Because you said the government should step in to prevent it. I also thought you weren't going to respond to me anyway.

takeharry · Today 20:41

Jjhtgh · Today 20:36

Because you said the government should step in to prevent it. I also thought you weren't going to respond to me anyway.

I only did it to highlight the fact you think my thread is unnecessary yet can’t seem to stop posting on it. I found it quite funny. I have no intention of engaging with you regarding the subject of the thread again.

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OonaStubbs · Today 20:44

Even £235 is outrageous. And I have never heard of the so-called "star".

The last time I went to the theatre I took DS to the local panto which had Alf from Home and Away and Jet from Gladiators in it and the tickets were £20 or something like that. How can there be such a difference?

MasterBeth · Today 20:46

takeharry · Today 14:57

Gosh, I’m surprised to see so many people justifying this pricing because ‘business’ - I guess that’s how they get away with it though, people will pay. If they stopped paying stupid prices then businesses would stop charging stupid prices.

I mean, durr...

But some people will always value what you want at a higher value than you are willing to pay.

Welcome to capitalism.

MasterBeth · Today 20:49

OonaStubbs · Today 20:44

Even £235 is outrageous. And I have never heard of the so-called "star".

The last time I went to the theatre I took DS to the local panto which had Alf from Home and Away and Jet from Gladiators in it and the tickets were £20 or something like that. How can there be such a difference?

Because no-one will pay 500 quid to watch Alf out of Home and Away in Aladdin at the Preston Guildhall and enough people will pay 500 quid to watch a bloke you've never heard of in Hamilton in the West End.

DjokovicsTowel · Today 20:50

OonaStubbs · Today 20:44

Even £235 is outrageous. And I have never heard of the so-called "star".

The last time I went to the theatre I took DS to the local panto which had Alf from Home and Away and Jet from Gladiators in it and the tickets were £20 or something like that. How can there be such a difference?

That "so called" star was one of the origins cast members, is a Tony award winner and is massive news for fans of the show. Just because you haven't heard of him...

And if it was that cast then it was about 30 years ago so you're a little out of touch. Costs have gone up - cast, staff, utility prices, stock prices.... but you can also still get £20 tickets to some shows, it just depends on the location and cast

fundamentallyauthentic · Today 20:59

OonaStubbs · Today 20:44

Even £235 is outrageous. And I have never heard of the so-called "star".

The last time I went to the theatre I took DS to the local panto which had Alf from Home and Away and Jet from Gladiators in it and the tickets were £20 or something like that. How can there be such a difference?

This is a troll post, surely?

SurferRona · Today 20:59

I honestly can’t think of anything I would want to see enough to pay that much 😲. Maybe a full ballet staging of The Rite of Spring with full orchestra 🤔.

I mean, Hamilton is ok, I’ve seen it, but £500 ok?!!! Nah. How good is this fella, will he make the production worth £425 more to me? I really can’t see that! And what is the charity that the £250 is for? Is it optional or mandatory?

I agree OP, it’s an obscene amount. And quite a lot of deprivation in that bit of London if you scratch behind the glass facades of Vic St sky scrapers. Smacks a bit ‘let them eat cake’ to my mind.

KissKissByeBye · Today 21:02

The issue with West End musicals also is that there are endless tourists prepared to see a show as part of their ‘London experience’ — musicals are easy because they don’t require much English, they’re as much spectacle as anything. Whereas they’re far less likely to attend a Carly Churchill play at the NT or Peer Gynt at the Almeida.

fundamentallyauthentic · Today 21:06

That "so called" star was one of the origins cast members, is a Tony award winner and is massive news for fans of the show. Just because you haven't heard of him...

He has also won an Emmy for his performance, and a Grammy for participating in the Hamilton album. Some of the most acclaimed performers of all time haven’t won three of the most prestigious entertainment awards. He won’t be working for the Equity minimum wage of a paltry £630 per week.

DjokovicsTowel · Today 21:19

fundamentallyauthentic · Today 21:06

That "so called" star was one of the origins cast members, is a Tony award winner and is massive news for fans of the show. Just because you haven't heard of him...

He has also won an Emmy for his performance, and a Grammy for participating in the Hamilton album. Some of the most acclaimed performers of all time haven’t won three of the most prestigious entertainment awards. He won’t be working for the Equity minimum wage of a paltry £630 per week.

He's one away from the full EGOT, didn't realise that

But further adds he's not some nobody

Miranda65 · Today 21:19

It's called capitalism. If people are willing to pay, then clearly the price is not "outrageous". People pay similar prices for some football matches, or pop concers, so why not the theatre?
And let's not forget, this is an exception.....most theatre tickets are very reasonably priced.

Jjhtgh · Today 21:21

Again nearly half of that money is for charity. So the people who can afford it and paying £500 are actually subsiding future tickets for people who can't afford to go.

You all say it's "obscene". Again, if you were selling your services and your business would you not want to be able to charge what you see fit?

Jjhtgh · Today 21:23

SurferRona · Today 20:59

I honestly can’t think of anything I would want to see enough to pay that much 😲. Maybe a full ballet staging of The Rite of Spring with full orchestra 🤔.

I mean, Hamilton is ok, I’ve seen it, but £500 ok?!!! Nah. How good is this fella, will he make the production worth £425 more to me? I really can’t see that! And what is the charity that the £250 is for? Is it optional or mandatory?

I agree OP, it’s an obscene amount. And quite a lot of deprivation in that bit of London if you scratch behind the glass facades of Vic St sky scrapers. Smacks a bit ‘let them eat cake’ to my mind.

The charity is mandatory as part of the £500 ticket. The cheaper tickets (which OP bought) are sold out.

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