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To not understand why Farage hasn’t been forced out yet?

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MyKindHiker · Yesterday 09:09

Let’s call a spade a spade…

when a person takes multiple ‘gifts’ from various shady sources they aren’t nice presents from one kind person to another. They. Are. Bribes.

Regardless of whether we agree with Nige on any of his policies, or that a woman is a woman or whatever else…

surely it’s clear the man is a crook?

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harrassedmum · Yesterday 13:01

IdentifyingAsAWoollyMammoth · Yesterday 11:03

You also have to ask yourself why NOW? Why is it only now that the media are going great guns for Farage? There has been stuff swirling around for years and most mainstream media have ignored it or actually platformed him. You only have to look at the number of times he was on Question Time when he wasn't an MP; now they platform the unelected chairman and non-MP Zia Yusuf instead.

Why does it suit certain newspaper owners (such as Murdoch) and Sky (ditto) to turn on him?

I'm not a conspiracy theorist by any stretch but it's very clear some media now believe Farage is damaged goods and no longer useful to them for their own ends.

Agree with this. I saw Rupert Lowe had said he was going to ruin his career, no idea if he’s got the power to bring all of this scrutiny though

AnnPerkins · Yesterday 13:01

RafaistheKingofClay · Yesterday 12:52

I’m guessing it’s going to be ciao I’m off and the blame placed firmly on the media and the danger they have placed him and his family in.

And he’s retired from public office before. So what ‘r’ words are left for his next political venture/ltd private company pretending to be a party in 6-12 months? Restore, reform and reclaim have already gone.

Recycle

RafaistheKingofClay · Yesterday 13:03

I’d got Tice confused with Lowe and then forgotten Lowe’s name, Since Tice didn’t leave he would also be a good shout.

Terribleio · Yesterday 13:07

Leading a political party is probably good craic when you’re a fringe outfit with a couple of MPs. You can say and do what you want, no one puts you under massive scrutiny and you’ll never have to implement anything anyway. When you’re suddenly a potential government in waiting and bigging yourself up as that, the scrutiny ramps up. It’s probably not a whole heap of fun if you’re a bit of a chancer and wholesale grifter.

itsjustuandi · Yesterday 13:07

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2026onwardsandup · Yesterday 13:08

I wonder if he will resign . I think it is likely . I think he has been “hounded “ but deservedly so . Non R supporters really dislike him , so I would hazard a guess that he is possibly one of the most hated men in the UK . I know there will also be millions that love him and are taken in by his “cheeky chappy “ persona .
I saw Jacob Rees Mogg being interviewed on sky last night and he readily agreed that Brexit would not have gone through without NF .

I think NF has no impetus to serve a public life under any duty to make things better for all .

If he does resign , I do wonder if this had happened months earlier if KS wouldn’t have resigned . Yes the May elections were awful for labour , but one major ( but not the only ) motivating factor for the MPs was the fear of “handing the keys to no 10 to NF “ , if changes in the leadership weren’t made .
Even if NF does resign he does have an uncanny ability of rising like a phoenix from the ashes .

Locutus2000 · Yesterday 13:11

Sounds like it's the George Cottrell stuff which is proving most damaging.

igelkott2026 · Yesterday 13:11

Same with Trump.

And it took long enough for people to see the light with Boris as well.

People will support people while they can feather their own nest.

banmusk · Yesterday 13:12

Isn't it brilliant🥳🥂🍾
So many people were absolutely sure that he would definitely be our next prime minister.
And now the stupid little prick has gone off in a huff ✌️🤣

banmusk · Yesterday 13:14

Locutus2000 · Yesterday 13:11

Sounds like it's the George Cottrell stuff which is proving most damaging.

George is going to be very pissed off, the spotlight will be on him🔦

the80sweregreat · Yesterday 13:14

Robert Jenrick always defends him, but I agree he’ll probably want to lead it if that position is up for grabs.

Locutus2000 · Yesterday 13:15

The most liked comments on the X post are very different to the ones served up by default...

To not understand why Farage hasn’t been forced out yet?
the80sweregreat · Yesterday 13:17

People buying council houses. It’s gone on for years . My parents snd in laws didn’t , but many did and it’s their children that are now sitting on a ton of money because of that leap of faith from renting to owning.
The laws changed and made it possible for working class people to own a house. Whatever your view, you can’t blame people for taking advantage of a change in the law. Money talks, especially around property.

MyKindHiker · Yesterday 13:18

RafaistheKingofClay · Yesterday 12:31

I’m engaged in a philosophical discussion with myself here after posting that. Hence the edit.

Guilt has a legal meaning as well as an emotional one IYSWIM. You can objectively be guilty of breaking a rule or law without actually feeling guilty about that.

Pretty sure the tetchy cagey think is because he knows he is guilty of breaking the rules and getting found out is going to have consequences for him. Not that he feels guilty about doing it because he’s developed a conscience.

Maybe anxious or worried better describes his actual feeling.

If it’s a philosophical debate, all legal theory and applied law takes into account proportionality and materiality. Which is why stealing a mars bar isn’t the same thing as robbing a bank.

Moreover the law does also consider motive in this context. What might the motive for not declaring glasses be? Who knows. Could be conspiracy could also be not considered material and considered a personal gift (nb I would give a mate some glasses no strings).

But £5m seems a lot to forget? So i think we can say he probably didn’t forget it. And it’s also more than friends usually give to each other. Even rich ones.

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DavidStopActingLikeADisgruntledPelican · Yesterday 13:22

I hope this is the beginning of the end of Farage’s political career, it should be. Not holding my breath as that shithead seems to be Teflon so far.

He’s clearly rattled about it, hopefully that’s a genuine reaction.

JimBobsWife · Yesterday 13:22

IdentifyingAsAWoollyMammoth · Yesterday 10:49

He's getting very rattled with all the scrutiny but most of his followers don't care about him taking money from whoever. They only see a bigger goal - even though most of them believe most of our politicians are corrupt and somehow Farage is not.

Anyone who thinks Farage actually WANTS to be prime minister anyway is delusional. He wouldn't want the scrutiny and he'd have to do some work. His whole political career is not turning up to things (hence his voting record in the EU parliament). He makes vast fortunes not being PM. He doesn't want to change that.

If they actually won a general election he'd be gone within six months, handing over to Tice or whoever is flavour of the month, to ensure their business chums and other paymasters get all their benefits while the normal working person is shafted further.

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I don't think this is quite right. Farage is on record as saying that UKIP's strategy in the European parliament was not to vote on more EU legislation so on principle rather than because he's lazy. A bit like Sinn Fein winning seats in Parliament and then not attending.

He's also on record saying he could have stayed in banking and been a lot richer but he chose to go into politics because of his disagreement with the European project.

DogAnxiety · Yesterday 13:22

I think it’s wrong to say most of his followers dont care about him taking money from wherever. He is supposed to be anti establishment and there have been studies showing his support is most vulnerable to appearing to be in the pockets of big business/ bribery

Terribleio · Yesterday 13:24

DogAnxiety · Yesterday 13:22

I think it’s wrong to say most of his followers dont care about him taking money from wherever. He is supposed to be anti establishment and there have been studies showing his support is most vulnerable to appearing to be in the pockets of big business/ bribery

They don’t give a shit. Social media is already full of them decrying this as some “establishment” stitch up. They seem to have forgotten that if he’d not taken the money there wouldn’t be anything to stitch up.

Locutus2000 · Yesterday 13:27

This is a good summary of just how damaging the emerging Cottrell scandal is.

Farage to reporters on the matter earlier today

“You tell your bosses, you harass my family anymore. I’ll take these serious consequences. That’s what your organisation has done this morning. Go away,”

Fraudster George Cottrell seen at numerous Reform events despite ‘no formal role’ in party

Nigel Farage urged to clarify ‘dependence’ on Cottrell, who also joined Reform leader in Abu Dhabi in December

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2026/jul/06/reform-uk-nigel-farage-george-cottrell

IdentifyingAsAWoollyMammoth · Yesterday 13:29

He's going to announce Trump has appointed him head of FIFA and will therefore be standing down from Clacton.

Of course, he may decide to call a by-election and see if the good folk of Clacton back him. Cost: £300k to taxpayer. Then if standards watchdog says he was naughty and suspend him for ten days, he'll say "pointless waste of money, I've just been re-elected", have another by-election costing £300k and get straight back in again as the Clacton Massive will see it's all the establishment trying to remove their democratically elected MP. And it will roll on.

Wouldn't put him past him to play such a game.

I hope he's fucking off. If he is resigning, it's likely because he knows there's more shit still to come that would bury him.

SerendipityJane · Yesterday 13:41

EwwStew · Yesterday 12:27

To be fair I see this exact behaviour in many people, whatever party they support or side of the political spectrum they fall on.

I believe it is a fundamental failure of our university and education system.

I think it's inherent. It's expressed differently, depending on where you are historically, socially and politically. These are the people who sold all their belongings in anticipation of a rapture, and when it didn't happen blamed themselves for not being pure enough.

A really contentious view would be it's an emergent property of universal suffrage.

banmusk · Yesterday 13:51

The next plot twist will be: babyface takes out a hit on farage

IdentifyingAsAWoollyMammoth · Yesterday 14:07

He's not going to be taking questions. What an absolute charlatan. Thatcher would say he's frit.

itsjustuandi · Yesterday 14:11

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