AIBU to refuse a Year 9 staying up for the 1am match?

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Is this unreasonable?
Apparently "every other mum" is letting their school year 9 kid watch the 1am match tonight and phone in sick to school tomorrow morning then go in at lunch.
I've said no to staying up to watch it. Starts at 1am, it will go on till 3:30am, or later if extra time!
DS has to get up at 6:30 for school.
DH says let him, keeps going on about once every 4 years experience, it's only 1 night, etc. And he says it will be the final England match - they'll be knocked out by Mexico tonight so there will be no other England games to watch after tonight.
DS badly needs his sleep and at 14 he still needs a solid 11 hours to function.
Is anyone else letting their DC watch it live tonight?
AIBU?

…and his memory of this game when world cup on in years to come be he was the only one not allowed to watch it.

I’d let him stay up. I’d also make sure he got up in time to attend school. I also wouldn’t stay awake myself to make sure he stayed awake for the match.

My year 9 son is going to stay up
and watch . He’ll go to bed at 7 , nap and then get up for the match .

My 11 year old in year 7 will be watching it. The deal is he goes to bed early, gets up to watch the match and (hopefully) go back to sleep after. He’ll be in school at normal time though, if I’ve got to get up and get myself to work then he can get up for school 😂. It’s once every 4 years, no harm will be done.

Oh let him stay up! We let our kids do it for the 2012 Olympic opening ceremony when they were 4 and 6 and they still have such fond memories of it. Sit him on the sofa with a blanket and some nice snacks - if it’s boring he’ll fall asleep. If it’s exciting it’s a core memory for him. All his friends will be watching so he’ll be able to join in the chat tomorrow at school. Also, why not let him rest/sleep from 8-12 and then wake him up. He could set an alarm.

Dad said "yes" so why do you get to veto? Year 9 is old enough to make choices and learn from them.

Bed early and up for the match is what I'd do i i were going to watch. Then dad is in charge of the morning routine.

My Y8 has no interest but if he did then he'd have the option to get up early (IE 6am) and watch it on catch up. This is what I'm doing for the football mad 11yo.

WC Final then yes. Anything else then nope. My kids are tired and burnt out enough at this stage of term so fuck adding an intentional night of very little sleep into the mix.

Unclench. It's one day. He doesn't need to 'function' perfectly tomorrow, he just has to be there.
Watch match with dad - off to school on time tomorrow.
Bed early Monday night.

Let him watch it but he has to go to school the next day. You go onto bed at your usual time and leave him and DH to it. All his friends will be watching and talking about it. So what if he is tired for one day. He can get an early night tomorrow and he is on the wind down for summer anyway.

I'd let him. Being tired at school will be all part of the experience - the kids can bond over how wrecked they are. Hopefully the teachers will be a bit sympathetic, this close to the end of term ...

This. It will be a core memory and most of the other kids at school will have done it.
it will also be a core memory if you don’t let him.
Deff still have to go to school in the morning tho! Don’t be a snowflake. 😃
we are going to bed early and setting alarm for 1

Of course there are way more important things than a football game, but that doesn't mean that this game can't be important to ops son

There is hype about many, many unimportant things. It breaks up the monotony of day to day life

I think a teen is old enough to weigh up if they want to be tired the next day or not.

Everyone will be tired tomorrow it'll be a great binding session 😂

when I was younger we used to go out on a Thursday night roll in at 4am and still go to to work the next day. Those were the days!

Let him watch - England probably will be knocked out...and he won't forgive you!
At my boarding school in the 80's my housemistress refused to let us watch the final 15 mins of the very final episode of Brideshead......all because it went on for 15 mins after lights out.......know this Mrs R-T, I've still not forgiven you!

Wow that’s so true.

It’s as bad to be too strict as to be too lax IMO. How else do you learn how to make mistakes and deal with the consequences if everything is controlled. I know a lot of people who are people-pleasers and/or can’t make up their own minds about anything and I think it’s a lot to with never being given choices as a child so you get into the habit of fitting in with everyone else.

I had boundaries with my sons but also gave them a lot of options and they’ve both managed to get jobs and get up for work absolutely fine. They can also make up their own minds.

Also OP why do your parenting choices trump those of your DH? He should just say no to you but maybe he’s too scared too???? Either way he’d be getting up for school in the morning which is part of learning that actions have consequences and that it’s good to compromise.

I can't understand why healthy young people need the day off school tomorrow for one late night.
He can stay up to watch the match, but he still gets his bum to school tomorrow, then have an early Monday night if he's worn out.

Saying that, my child is volunteering at a secondary school tomorrow and the school day is starting at 1130, instead of the usual time.

How do you even get a 14 year old to go to bed at 7:30?

(11 hours sleep and get up at 6.30)

It's nearly summer holidays so I'd be feeling more relaxed about this than in, say, September! Lots of time to rest just around the corner.

TBH teens handle the late night better than me probably!

I would ask that they sleep a few hours ahead of getting up for it - not that they will sleep in all likelihood, but because rest is still useful and I think it is good to instil the idea that sometimes you need to make adjustments to work things to suit.

Teacher here. Let him watch and then keep him off. I am dreading trying to get any sense out of Y9 on Monday morning - the fewer the better

Core memory 😂😂😂

If he was actually flying to Mexico and had a ticket to watch the match in the stadium, that might be a memory that would last.

In 10, 20, 30 years time, he will have absolutely no recollection of staying up late to watch one England game.

I attended (travelled to and had tickets for ) my first World Cup games in 1998. I do not even remember all the scores from the group games or who we played (apart from Tunisia).

Record it and get up at 5 to watch before school. Turn off all devices so you can’t see the result.

Just let him watch it. What’s the worst that’s going to happen? He’s tired at school? He’ll live.

kick off at 1am, should be all done and dusted by 3am- 3:30am latest. Compromise he goes to bed early, at least rests 8pm-1am, set an alarm for then. (or say 2am so he’s only watching the second half?) he agrees straight to bed again after the match. the tv volume isn’t too high so other family members can get a good nights sleep.

He goes to school tomorrow. Also any homework due later in the week is done this afternoon so if he’s shattered Monday/tuesfay evenings, he can just have early nights without having to bother with that. (This would be my family rule because I know one bad night wipes my DS out for a couple of nights afterwards.)

This is what I took from it too. 7:30 bedtime for a 14 year old is odd unless they have a health condition. Youth club, scouts and many other clubs don't finish until after this.

It’s not the same. At all.

Part of the excitement is staying up with your dad watching it and seeing it in real time.