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AIBU to refuse a Year 9 staying up for the 1am match?

669 replies

BlackTulipss · Yesterday 07:58

Is this unreasonable?
Apparently "every other mum" is letting their school year 9 kid watch the 1am match tonight and phone in sick to school tomorrow morning then go in at lunch.
I've said no to staying up to watch it. Starts at 1am, it will go on till 3:30am, or later if extra time!
DS has to get up at 6:30 for school.
DH says let him, keeps going on about once every 4 years experience, it's only 1 night, etc. And he says it will be the final England match - they'll be knocked out by Mexico tonight so there will be no other England games to watch after tonight.
DS badly needs his sleep and at 14 he still needs a solid 11 hours to function.
Is anyone else letting their DC watch it live tonight?
AIBU?

OP posts:
Hattermadness · Yesterday 18:02

Have I missed something?! It's not the final is it???
So glad we're not a footy house 🤣

Asyoulikeit123 · Yesterday 18:03

We will all be watching 👀⚽️🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿🥳 Come on England! ❤️

Sunshineandrainmakesrainbows · Yesterday 18:03

11hrs sleep…he surely doesn’t go to bed at 7.15pm???

100% I’d allow mine to stay up…except I’m in Scotland so there’s no need 🤣

my 7yo stayed up for the 11pm games Scotland played and got up for the 2am one and went back to bed.

Send him to bed and wake him for the match? Or he stays up and he has to suck up being very tired tomorrow because it’s school as normal OR he stays up and you allow him to stay off tomorrow

BackToRealitySigh · Yesterday 18:06

He needs a solid 11 hours sleep & he gets up at 6:30am. 14yo goes to bed at 19:30 every night - really?

We're team, early to bed, get up & watch, back to bed and power through for the day in our house (years 10 & 6) - def not phone in sick/go in late but dad's friends seem to not go in at ths drop of a hat so I can well believe that lots are doing this.

Dawnb19 · Yesterday 18:07

You are being unreasonable. He will probably be the only one in his class. My nephew's are in year 7 & 8 and have gone to bed now and are getting woke up for it. They're very excited.

NotAtMyAge · Yesterday 18:07

Not soccer but I can vividly remember our American football crazy, mid-teenage daughter staying up until the early hours to watch the Superbowl when her team was in it. That was nearly 40 years ago. We wouldn't have dreamt of saying she couldn't 😉She still got up for school next morning.

boysmuminherts · Yesterday 18:09

Of course let him watch. I hope you've reconsidered now. He can sleep 9pm-1am. And again 3-6.30am. 1 night won't hurt. Although reading that he'll be up on.his own without you or his dad so maybe it'll lose its excitement?

Alittlewordinyourear · Yesterday 18:12

Let him stay up, it’s a one off and end of term anyway.

ObelixtheGaul · Yesterday 18:12

Hattermadness · Yesterday 18:02

Have I missed something?! It's not the final is it???
So glad we're not a footy house 🤣

Oh, it's so much more than that, @Hattermadness, it's the equivalent of the moon landing. Apparently there's never going to be another WC, or England will never get to the last 16 ever again, so denying your children to watch this once-in-a-lifetime historic moment is a terrible thing to do.

I think a 14 year old should be able to watch it, but find all the posts about 'core memories' and how unmissable this not even the final match is is frankly ridiculous.

Maybe if we stopped all being a bit silly about it, it wouldn't be this big of a deal to the kids.

BooBooDoodle · Yesterday 18:13

My son’s school is showing the match at 9am on Monday morning. We’ve to send him in wearing a footy kit and they are making a football breakfast for all kids wishing to watch the match. We just hope to keep the result a secret for them, he’s in year 6 and leaves in a few weeks.
Other son in year 10, email from
his school saying it would be unsuitable keeping students up so late and they hope we make the responsible decision of making sure they go to bed at normal time so they can come into school ready to learn on Monday. Mine won’t be staying up and neither will we but schools need to hit their attendance targets don’t they!

sunnyandrainy · Yesterday 18:16

15 year old and 11 year old setting alarms to get up here. Plus it’s the end of the summer term. The least important few days of the school year!

FlamingoFloss · Yesterday 18:17

Let him do it and see how tired he is tomorrow. A life lesson about why you shouldn’t always have what you think you want

Mrshockallz1726 · Yesterday 18:18

Nope my year 9 son is going to bed normal time and he said if they some how win he will just watch highlights online. However looking at the weather in Mexico City there is a good chance it will be delayed and he might see some before school

2old2Nonsense · Yesterday 18:19

No, you're doing the exact right thing. Parenting isn't convenient and your child's job is education, not watching a bunch of man-children millionaires flopping around the pitch at 0100 in the morning

Don't ask anyone what they think. They have no investment in your children or their future.

Bigtrapeze · Yesterday 18:20

Hattermadness · Yesterday 18:02

Have I missed something?! It's not the final is it???
So glad we're not a footy house 🤣

Quite likely the final for England given the circumstances, sadly, but you never know!

ClassicalQueen · Yesterday 18:21

It’s one day. Let him stay up, he’ll live.

Waheymum · Yesterday 18:24

You're not being unreasonable in that I don't disagree with you, but I think the PP that suggested waking him up for the match then straight back to bed was spot on. I'd follow their advice!

OutAndAbouting · Yesterday 18:26

This whole situation is ridiculous. What on earth is going on? It's bluddy football. I find the situation regarding football unendurable at the best of times, but it really has now gone mad.

I'm sure that my ex will refer to it as 'an important game', but every football match was 'important' to him.

It's total bollox. Do not allow your children to be ruled by it. Perhaps take them to the Bayeux Tapestry exhibition instead where they can get some worthwhile education in their history and the development of humanity.

Szboox · Yesterday 18:30

I’m letting my 10 year old! Only happens once every 4 years. We are bringing our duvets down and memory making!

OutAndAbouting · Yesterday 18:30

BlackTulipss · Yesterday 10:39

To respond to comments made:

  1. My DH has no intention of watching it. Don't know why certain posters are saying DH will be watching it. I never said that. He won't be. Doesn't want to. I also won't be watching. DS would watch alone.
  2. Posters saying why do I get to control things by saying no when DH is saying yes, why do I get the right to decide over what DH is saying, that signals me being controlling etc. Turn that around. If DS watches it because DH says yes even though I've said no, then does that make DH controlling over me and my opinion? Does that mean DH 'gets to control' by saying yes when I've said no? The misogyny from women themselves against other women is real. FWIW me and DH are having a completely relaxed chat about it and are listening to each other's points and are weighing up the balance, just like we always do about everything.
  3. 11 hours sleep a night was a mistake from me editing that sentence in a rush. I meant to put 10 hours. Yes. Wait for it because this might blow your minds. DS who is 14 sleeps 10 hours a night. On week days, he puts himself to bed at 8:30 and is asleep as soon as his head hits the pillow, then wakes at 6:30. And you will be even more shocked out of your heads to learn that at weekends, he puts himself to bed by 10pm and sleeps like the dead until 10am Sat/Sun. Hold on to your coffees - this is 12 hours!!!! Every single weekend!!!! And no, he doesn't need blood tests and medical appointments before you wade in with that. He's a perfectly fit, healthy, sporty boy with lots of energy in the day.
  4. I never said I would let him take the morning off school sick. I said other mums are allowing this. I never said I would. My question was about him staying up to watch it. Not about him not going to school tomorrow morning. He will be going to school regardless.
  5. I am not controlling over DS. I'm a relaxed parent of a DS who has masses of independence and free reign. He is always listened to and I happily compromise what I think in order to listen to what he thinks. Again, only on mumsnet can a post about me thinking amy DS14 staying up till 3:30/4 am on a school night isn't a good idea could it turn into a deluge of criticism about me being a controlling parent. Controlling parents say a hard no, don't listen to reason, and don't reflect by asking if they're BU on a parenting forum.
  6. DS is ND, needs a lot of rest to cope with school the next day, gets overwhelmed and overloaded quickly, has SEN which are impacted by less sleep, he also gets overstimulated quickly, and his brain tires more easily. Lack of sleep markedly increases all of the above. It is this that I'm weighing up when saying no to him staying up till 3:30/4. But because I'm listening to him asking to watch it, and because I am weighing up the sbove versus it's only 1 night, and because I am reflecting on my decision (as opposed to being controlling), I have asked AIBU.

I'm with you on all of this. Send him to school totally knackered, He won't want to do it again.

(an ex secondary school teacher)

Sorry, that was mean on your DS but you get my drift.

dementedmummy · Yesterday 18:31

BlackTulipss · Yesterday 16:14

So he is a super happy, bright and full of the joys boy 24/7 but also an ‘easily overcome and very overwhelmed’ SEN child as you said earlier. You’re not making sense.

Yes, that's right.
Some (not all, some) children who are ND with SEN who get sensory overload and overwhelm in response to certain situations and triggers can simultaneously have happy characters and delightful personalities, lead fulfilled lives and enjoy a variety of physical activities.
Please don't stigmatise children and young people with SEN like this.

Consider this - who is going to need to look after your son tomorrow? Is he going to give the teachers a hard time because he can't cope with lack of sleep with SEN? If the answer is yes, you are correct in not letting him stay off. If simply he is going to just be a bit tired, then wake him up to see the game. If he goes to bed at 8.30 he will already have had 4.5 hours sleep then another 3.5 hours post match - not masses but still enough that a 14 year old should otherwise be able to cope with. Who knows? If he takes a quilt and pillow to the living room he might just fall asleep anyway in front of the TV.

AmusedMember · Yesterday 18:32

My 12 year old is, he's off to bed at 8pm and will be woken up at 12.45 and then back to bed after! It's not a final, but he absolutely loves football!

MrsKJones · Yesterday 18:35

Only on mumsnet can a parent who dares to say no to their child be called controlling.

My DS is 15 and asked, jokingly, if he could watch the match. I chuckled and before I could even say no, he told me he knew the answer. My son also has SEN and need a good 9 hours sleep. He can watch England's crappy performance on catch up after school.

Its not even a semi-final. It is also nowhere near the same league as a lunar landing or eclipse which others have alluded to. SMDH

pimplebum · Yesterday 18:36

pouletvous · Yesterday 08:05

can he get up at 5am and watch on iplayer?

This

or

dont be an uptight fun sponge - it could be a wonderful memory its not like he is operating heavy machinery the next day

i am a teacher ( who will not be staying up ) i have planned a whole day of easy non taxing lessons for those that turn up

OutAndAbouting · Yesterday 18:37

BlackTulipss · Yesterday 16:14

So he is a super happy, bright and full of the joys boy 24/7 but also an ‘easily overcome and very overwhelmed’ SEN child as you said earlier. You’re not making sense.

Yes, that's right.
Some (not all, some) children who are ND with SEN who get sensory overload and overwhelm in response to certain situations and triggers can simultaneously have happy characters and delightful personalities, lead fulfilled lives and enjoy a variety of physical activities.
Please don't stigmatise children and young people with SEN like this.

Sorry, am dominating here for a second. I can't believe the way in which this thread has developed, even for Mumsnet. So much shit, judgement and ridiculous preconceived ideas.

Do your thing OP. Do what you believe is right for your child.

Unbelievable.