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AIBU to feel like my ILs use my DHs niece to pressure me?

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IsolatedLemonTree · 30/06/2026 15:29

This is about my ILs. Don't know AIBU is the right place to post this question - if it is wrong please let me know... maybe it can be moved? From what I have read AIBU gets a lot of traffic and many different topics are allowed?

Summary: I feel like my ILs use my DH's niece as a way to manipulate me into doing things they want and I want to know if you think this is normal/I'm being unreasonable to resist.

Long version:
There is a lot of friction between me and my in-laws. In particular my SIL and with MIL. I will try to give you as much information as I can in this OP so I'm sorry for the length of this post!

Me and my DH got married in April this year and have been together for 17 years. We met during freshers in our first year of uni. At the time, and probably right up until the wedding, my MIL was convinced our relationship wouldn't last. She didn't say this outright but there were many tells - I haven't included them in this post because it's a bit besides the point.

In our first year of uni when we started dating my SIL was going through a nasty breakup with her fiancee and maybe that influenced MILs attitude to me (this is what DH thinks) I don't know what to make of that personally... What I do know is that since day 1 MIL has treated me in basically a belittling way. Pity almost. But this is through a mask of friendliness... if friendliness had thorns... anyway, I should mention that I am not from the UK and that is visible from the outside, if I put it that way. In the 80s MIL might have described me as "exotic". Sometimes MIL makes up facts about my background when she talks about me to her friends. Again, I don't know if this influences it at all. I would never describe MIL as racist but I think her world view has a bit of "colonial superiority/pride" to it, if that makes sense. She often comments on people's ethnic background and will interrogate waiters and shopkeepers about where they are from and then tell them about when she visited their country or if she hasn't she will tell them she has visited a country nearby, that sort of thing. It's often visible that it makes them uncomfortable...

Although SIL had a lot of problems growing up she comes across as the favourite child. I don't know if thats linked or a common thing. Some of the issues in her life continued and in the end she conceived through sperm donation since she was running out of time/options. Since there is no dad, their family often need to coordinate supportive childcare, and sometimes ask us for help. When DH and I sold our last house, MIL tried to convince us to buy a house near SIL so that I could provide childcare for her daughter. I had been let go from my job due to restructuring (and was quite depressed) and MIL thought it meant I had a lot of free time on my hands. MIL never really asked me if this is something I wanted to do, instead she took for granted that I was a resource she/they could use. In the end this didn't happen but I'm adding this for context.

At the wedding SIL was very cold to me and I can't actually remember her speaking to me except twice. Once to ask repeatedly about dinner and dinner times because "she was hungry" (even though I had provided them with this information beforehand) and another time to say something which was upsetting (would rather not go into it). She was told off by someone overhearing.

During the dinner she didn't come up to us to congratulate us, even though many other people did. I'm glad she didn't because I didn't want to chat to her either, but it's worth mentioning that she didn't make the effort. At the same time, I don't know whether it is common to do that in the UK (it is not where I am from) so I don't want to be unfair to her about this. MIL did come up to us during the meal and so did some of our friends, so I was getting mixed signals in terms of what was to be expected from guests/family during the meal.

SIL seemed quite grumpy throughout. I started getting a sense that she was sending over her daughter to ask questions about the food in a very impatient way and very loudly, constantly, and mid-meal. Questions like: When is the food coming? What food will I get next? What is the dessert? When will I get the dessert? Why isn't the dessert here? Her daughter would run between our table and theirs, back and forth, with SIL watching, so it is hard to imagine any other scenario than that the poor girl was being told "go ask them when the dessert will be here" "ask them if it is ice cream" instead of being told to for example be patient or for the adults to explain to the girl what food was coming up next. The girl also came up holding part of her food in her hand and gave it to us. Lots of saliva on it. SIL was watching this unfold. I'm guessing this was the food she didn't like and didn't want to eat. So instead of SIL eating or disposing of it, she told her go give it to us (me and DH).

This meant that I was faced with a choice of either eating her food or be rude by not accepting this "gift" from a child.

Later when all the dancing was happening, I was chatting to friends outside the dance floor. Their family were dancing inside and it felt like they were sending her over to us to scream at me, loudly: "COME DANCE WITH THE FAMILY!!!". This happened about 4 times in a row, each time the same sentence. Again, this felt like one or more adults using a child to deliver a message and I felt very uncomfortable with it. I had to say no to her each time because the whole thing seemed engineered by an adult and honestly I was having a nice conversation and wanted to continue having it.

I also thought it was a very strange thing for a 3-4 year old to say. Not the dancing part but the "with the family" part. In my experience, children of that age are more interested in "come dance with ME" or "come play with ME" but I'm not an expert... we've got a dog and ages in dog years and doesn't speak English, so what do I know?!

I thought MUMSnet would be able to help me work out whether this is expected behaviour from a child this age or if I am right to suspect they used the child to send messages. I obviously feel quite bad because the outcome has been that this poor girl has been told no over and over again and I don't want to upset her. But I also don't want to be manipulated by the grown ups.

Am I being too harsh/unreasonable?

OP posts:
Marwoodsbigbreak · 30/06/2026 16:18

No it isn’t normal but clearly SIL is batshit. Just smile and wave and forget about it.

Minimise contact with SIL and let them all crack on.

IsolatedLemonTree · 30/06/2026 16:19

Skybluepinky · 30/06/2026 16:18

Don’t get involved in family arguments.

Solid advice, I agree.

OP posts:
Lexibletheflexible · 30/06/2026 16:20

IsolatedLemonTree · 30/06/2026 16:17

I think that is a bit unreasonable and not something I've ever seen at a wedding where I was a guest.

No i dont. Buffet or appetisers while you take pictures as not all of your guests are involved in that long, boring bit. Then a proper sit down meal and then the reception with another buffet for evening guests.

IsolatedLemonTree · 30/06/2026 16:20

Larrythecatforpm · 30/06/2026 16:08

Normal behaviour from a kid that age, just drop the grudge op it’s not warranted against a little kid who was just excited!

I'm not holding a grudge against the child... she is a child fgs! Maybe you have misunderstood the post?

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Delphiniumandlupins · 30/06/2026 16:21

I think you're overthinking. Set your boundaries, don't be coerced into providing childcare/eating food/dancing if you don't want to. You can divert the little girl to her mum or granny or your DH. Be polite but firm with all the family. It sounds like MiL and SiL don't worry about offending you so don't be so careful of their feelings. And remember all the good things about your wedding.

Octavia64 · 30/06/2026 16:22

My kids absolutely behaved like that at weddings when that age and it was not because I was telling them to (rather the opposite)

IsolatedLemonTree · 30/06/2026 16:23

Lexibletheflexible · 30/06/2026 16:20

No i dont. Buffet or appetisers while you take pictures as not all of your guests are involved in that long, boring bit. Then a proper sit down meal and then the reception with another buffet for evening guests.

We offered them lunch then a buffet and then a sit down meal so you don't have to worry there was plenty of food. But it was not on tap, like a bar. There were set meal times 3h between each.

OP posts:
TheIdlerReturns · 30/06/2026 16:24

That's awful OP. Your SIL sounds almost unhinged and I feel sorry for the girl being used this way. What was the food bit all about? The daughter trying to give you her food. It sounds nuts (pardon the pun). I would have just refused it. As others have said, tell your DH to intervene if necessary and keep contact with his family to a minimum. Well done for not moving house. By the way, MIL comes across as very racist.

MajorProcrastination · 30/06/2026 16:46

Lexibletheflexible · 30/06/2026 16:12

To me, hour for the ceremony and then there should be food on tap and accessible to all.

This has never ever been my experience at any wedding in the UK.

If the wedding's at a church or venue other than the wedding reception, you'll have the service then travel and once at the party venue there'll be drinks and something small like canapes or an oyster bar or snacky bits. If the ceremony's at the same place as the do it's the same without the travel bit.

Or there will be a drinks reception and mingling while the couple have photos done then all go into the food room / tent / whatever and eat usually a 3 course meal of some sort (but yes, have also had curry, paella, hot buffet, BBQ). then speeches then dancing and in the evening often something like a buffet, fish and chips van, cheese board, hog roast, pizzas, hotdogs, pasties etc.

"food on tap and accessible to all" isn't really the same as any of the weddings I've been to in the UK.

MajorProcrastination · 30/06/2026 16:47

IsolatedLemonTree · 30/06/2026 16:23

We offered them lunch then a buffet and then a sit down meal so you don't have to worry there was plenty of food. But it was not on tap, like a bar. There were set meal times 3h between each.

This sounds really normal and what I'd expect as a wedding guest.

MajorProcrastination · 30/06/2026 16:57

OP, I agree with some people that you'll be looking at every little thing through the lens of someone who's been hurt and belittled for over a decade and a half by your ILs. I'm sorry that they've not embraced you into the family as they should have done.

Your SIL sounds like a whiney piece of work.

It's unfair that they assumed you'd be on hand for childcare when his SIL is a single parent by choice. It's nice when people can help out but parents should never assume or take advantage.

As for is it normal for people to come to the table during the meal to congratulate. I wouldn't, I'd only get out of my seat to go to the loo. I'd congratulate the couple during the drinks reception and the dancing and the whole of the rest of the day.

Your niece coming over a few times to ask you in to dance with the family is pretty normal. Yes she's probably been told to go and get you but I don't think that's anything malicious. I get that you were having a nice chat with friends outside but it could've changed the vibe if you'd said to the child "hey, that sounds fun but I'm having such a lovely chat with my friends who I've not seen for a while, can I introduce you because they're really important to me and you're really important to me. Girls, this is the wonderful Lily, Lily this is..." etc. Or you could've said to your girlfriends "excuse me ladies, I'm going inside to dance to the next song with this lovely little one, do you want to come with?"

It's hard on your wedding day as I felt a bit torn in so many different directions by various friend groups and family but it was lovely. At one point my bestie came outside to say "you've got to come in, they're playing (here she named a song we love)" - to which I said "I know, I made the playlist, I love all the songs! I'll finish this drink and I'll be inside in a mo" - because I was chatting with other people outside.

So I think you're reading a bit more into some stuff than it deserves but I also think you have good reason to not be a massive fan of your MIL or SIL. Kill it with kindness, smile and wave, but stay true to your boundaries and concentrate on having a wonderful marriage.

pizzaHeart · 30/06/2026 17:17

Marwoodsbigbreak · 30/06/2026 16:18

No it isn’t normal but clearly SIL is batshit. Just smile and wave and forget about it.

Minimise contact with SIL and let them all crack on.

This ^
as to DN - copy the playgroup workers attitude when kids are pestering them: give simple answers, don’t go into much explanation, ignore a bit and send to mum.

DewDropsAndCobWebs · 30/06/2026 17:37
  1. you didn't do anything wrong
  2. the kid is acting like a normal kid
  3. avoid engaging with MIL/SIL
  4. stop ruminating over such a small issue, life is too short
thepariscrimefiles · 30/06/2026 17:43

You have said that you don't think your MIL is racist. I disagree. I think she is one of those 'I'm not racist but...' people. She is condescending and her tone and demeanor towards you sound slightly mocking and superior. I bet she does a lot of tutting with some side glances and eye rolling.

What does your husband think about the things his mum has said and done?

MrSchubertWhiskers · 30/06/2026 17:43

ruolocretaw · 30/06/2026 16:13

Here's my opinion: Stop worrying about being unkind to the child. Let's say that it was entirely your niece's idea to ask you to dance. You were having a discussion with friends and didn't want to end it. That's okay. Unless you snapped something sharp or sarcastic at the child, there's no problem. Saying 'no' is perfectly fine. If SIL or MIL were encouraging her to ask, same thing. It's okay to say 'no'. It was also fine to refuse the 'gift' of food she brought you. No-one would want to eat that, and children can be kindly and politely told 'no' without any drama. Anyone offended by that is just looking for reasons to be offended, and you can't control that.

You likely have a long future ahead of you which will involve dealing with MIL and SIL. I'd try to learn some strategies to let their annoying behaviours roll off you, as much as possible. If you feel that you're being nice and reasonable, that's what matters.

Lots of very predictable replies here but this is a good one @IsolatedLemonTree with sage advice.

I also agree with the poster who said to focus on boundaries with your inlaws.

I don't think you're reading too much into things, generally speaking, it's possible you were a bit oversensitive about the reasons for your nieces behaviour at the wedding, but I can see why you would be so.

It's quite easy to tell a small child "no thank you", or "thank you, put it there" or, "I will be in soon, go and dance" without being mean. Just be polite but firm so don't worry so much about speaking out of turn.

Upstartled · 30/06/2026 17:59

So the mil behaves friendly and isn't racist but you have inferred that her friendless is unfriendliness and her lack of racism is masking a superior colonial complex and you have decided that neither your mil or sil like you but then the mil suggested you should move nearer to the Dil, and then a four year old behaved irrationally, like 4 yo's do, at your wedding and the sil was hungry...and all that means that everybody hates you?

I don't get it. I'm sorry, op. Maybe the thing that you didn't want to add that your sil said at your wedding makes it all clear and the things you didn't want to talk about which your mil has done actually does demonstrate that she doesn't like you...but what you've said here just looks like most of this ongoing battle is your perception.

In any case, that advice above is sound. They are your husband's family, they are his problem. Just untether yourself from the whole thing.

SereneFinch · 30/06/2026 18:08

I don’t think you should worry about being mean to the child. It’s ok for a child to hear ‘no’ as long as you were nice about it and I’m sure you were.

It does seem that your MIL/SIL don’t approve of you for whatever reason and I can see why this made you think they were using the child to annoy you. You’re right to wonder.

But, here’s the thing, you don’t know and you’ll never know. Put it out of your head and carry on dealing with them as you always have. Nice and polite but keep a distance that works for you and don’t give them too information about your life.

Lexibletheflexible · 01/07/2026 06:34

MajorProcrastination · 30/06/2026 16:46

This has never ever been my experience at any wedding in the UK.

If the wedding's at a church or venue other than the wedding reception, you'll have the service then travel and once at the party venue there'll be drinks and something small like canapes or an oyster bar or snacky bits. If the ceremony's at the same place as the do it's the same without the travel bit.

Or there will be a drinks reception and mingling while the couple have photos done then all go into the food room / tent / whatever and eat usually a 3 course meal of some sort (but yes, have also had curry, paella, hot buffet, BBQ). then speeches then dancing and in the evening often something like a buffet, fish and chips van, cheese board, hog roast, pizzas, hotdogs, pasties etc.

"food on tap and accessible to all" isn't really the same as any of the weddings I've been to in the UK.

"and once at the party venue there'll be drinks and something small like canapes or an oyster bar or snacky bits."

"Or there will be a drinks (with appetisers?) reception and mingling while the couple have photos done"

"then all go into the food room / tent / whatever and eat usually a 3 course meal of some sort (but yes, have also had curry, paella, hot buffet, BBQ). then speeches then dancing and in the evening often something like a buffet, fish and chips van, cheese board, hog roast, pizzas, hotdogs, pasties etc."

From your description, is there ever 3 hours without food?

Your description is much closer to food on tap throughout than the OP's.

MajorProcrastination · 01/07/2026 10:30

Lexibletheflexible · 01/07/2026 06:34

"and once at the party venue there'll be drinks and something small like canapes or an oyster bar or snacky bits."

"Or there will be a drinks (with appetisers?) reception and mingling while the couple have photos done"

"then all go into the food room / tent / whatever and eat usually a 3 course meal of some sort (but yes, have also had curry, paella, hot buffet, BBQ). then speeches then dancing and in the evening often something like a buffet, fish and chips van, cheese board, hog roast, pizzas, hotdogs, pasties etc."

From your description, is there ever 3 hours without food?

Your description is much closer to food on tap throughout than the OP's.

"food on tap" means that there is food aaaallll of the time, not at normal meal times.

thistimelastweek · 01/07/2026 10:48

MajorProcrastination · 01/07/2026 10:30

"food on tap" means that there is food aaaallll of the time, not at normal meal times.

Seems to me Lexible is less than flexible in her determination to find fault with an occasion she didn't even attend

Lexibletheflexible · 01/07/2026 12:36

MajorProcrastination · 01/07/2026 10:30

"food on tap" means that there is food aaaallll of the time, not at normal meal times.

Yes and what you describe is far closer to food all of the time vs food in 3 hr intervals.

Lexibletheflexible · 01/07/2026 12:37

thistimelastweek · 01/07/2026 10:48

Seems to me Lexible is less than flexible in her determination to find fault with an occasion she didn't even attend

Ivw been to many weddings where guests were expected to hang around without food (or drinks on occasion) while formalities like pictures took place. It was unpleasant and not reasonable for young children attending

pikkumyy77 · 01/07/2026 12:44

Lexibletheflexible · 30/06/2026 16:12

To me, hour for the ceremony and then there should be food on tap and accessible to all.

The point

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Lexibletheflexible · 01/07/2026 12:50

pikkumyy77 · 01/07/2026 12:44

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No i think if you have young kids at the ceremony and then food evey 3 hours, it is quite likely they'll be impatiently asking for food of their own volition.

MajorProcrastination · 01/07/2026 12:52

Lexibletheflexible · 01/07/2026 12:36

Yes and what you describe is far closer to food all of the time vs food in 3 hr intervals.

except it's absolutely not "food all the time" 😂