AIBU to feel helpless about a large asylum camp in our village?

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My village has been chosen for a 1500 open asylum camp for single men. It will be an open camp (as the men haven't done anything wrong so aren't detained.)

The thing is the village only has 700 people and it is pretty isolated. it's about 10 miles to the nearest city and you can walk to another small village. There is a playpark, a pub and a primary school.

It has to go through planning, but the government have changed the planning laws so that they grant themselves planning and you can't see it as it is deemed sensitive. So they will just grant themselves planning and you can't oppose it without a judicial review--by which time it will probably be already open.

They want to reduce the number of people in hotels. But am AIBU to think that this puts the burden of sorting these issues out on one tiny community? Feels like we are collateral damage to be honest. The community will be outnumbered 2 to 1 and it feels too much. There is nothing for them to do or places to go. Also the fact that it is all single men put in one massive place with no money or means or anything to do is going to lead to problems

Apparently the camps cost £10 less a night than the hotels. But they don't count the set up costs which are astronomical (the one in Essex was £47 million to set up). So it seems like it's not not even cheaper than the problem it is trying to solve but much more expensive.

AIBU to feel a bit helpless? It seems so unfair but there is nothing I can do. We wouldn't be able to move from the village anyway as no one would buy a house here.

Would you welcome this accommodation nearby to you? 1500 men

I half wonder if the government are planning a war and are going to draft all these fighting age young men into it…

Look up Special Development Orders. They have made it now so the government apply to themselves for planning. And no one can see it and then they approve it.

Madness.
But you are right in that it will take forever before anything gets sorted and who knows what the political climate will be then.

Back to ther own country! These are fighting age men who are here illegally. Not women and children.

Bicester by any chance

The adverts for the army, navy and airforce are only featuring white boys. They aim at working class white boys.

The others will not fight. Conscription would see a huge amount of British citizens leave for their other countries. There have been lots of studies done.

It’s not cheaper it’s more expensive

Would you want the 1500 men nearby?

Why do we have to even have them full stop, it just encourages more to come from France

Are they definitely all men?

I'm in a bigger village, but still a village, and we had a hotel housing asylum seekers until last week. The local Facebook page was raging when it came. Going on about them all being men, we were all going to be raped. And anyone who said anything positive about would be "hopefully the first to be raped or murdered" etc.

That was about four years ago I think. I barely saw a man from there. Heard nothing about increased crime. No rapes that I'm aware of. I saw people from there walking in the village but they were predominantly women with children. Also, all the "these guys broke into my house, does anyone recognise them from the security camera footage" posts, continued to be very much NOT asylum seekers.

The government clearly want this ..or they could stop it .
Other parties,who haven't had a bite of the cherry yet ,have clear plans to do just that
Anyone voting for more of the same with the main three parties , clearly wants more of what we already have .
There's no point stressing over what we can't change.
But we all have a vote in three years time
Let's hope people use it wisely

Maybe that’s the answer then, compulsory conscription for them, perhaps it could be a deterrent or they could go back to country of origin.

Our assulum laws are old fashioned apparently and need changing at the roots becusee they don't reflect the current needs.

I can't believe a pp wrote that they feel sorry for the poor men leaving their wives, mother's ,sisters and sons behind ??

No I feel sorry for them being left behind.

Totally agree. Op I'd be really cross. You need to protest and every one else in your village. Get your mp to do something, that is not democracy. It's clear to all no one with a braincell wants undocumented migrants walking around. There are things we can do but the government don't want to.
On the government's website it says the claim can be denied if they came through a safe third country. They all come through a safe third country, so they just need to change the wording. Your claim WILL be denied.
It also says you need to bring documentation (if you have it). Change to if you don't have documentation your claim WILL be denied.
Also stop paying France millions of pounds because they do not stop migrants from coming over because they don't want them either (sorry if that's crude but it's is absolutely the case).
Sticking to the actual rules set out would be a good start and whilst a claim is being settled and we can't be sure of someone's identity they will not be allowed to leave their camps. We have thousands of people out of work, train people up to work for the border force or help with thier admin and sort this backlog out.

YANBU to be concerned. Anyone would be, including those who will no doubt criticise you for feeling uneasy about it. No doubt they wouldn’t relish it on their doorstep either.

Such a huge influx of people is going to totally change the village and surrounding area. Having such a drastic change thrust upon you is an uncomfortable situation and of course there will be issues. It will go from a quiet rural environment to having groups of bored young men hanging around with nothing to do. Add to that problems with integration and it’s very unlikely to end well.

That’s blatantly not true. I’ve just searched all three recruiting sites and they have images of women, and men of differing ethnicities.

What are you talking about? This is from Army advertising and there are loads more like it.

17.6% of the British Army is made up of ethnic minorities, which is more or less the same as the make up of the overall population.

I'd be worried about this OP (teenage DDs).

I asked ChatGPT for an email to your MP, got the following:

“I understand that the proposed accommodation of an all-male cohort may be mandated or directed through central government policy, with limited local discretion. However, I would like clarification on what Equality Impact Assessment, safeguarding assessment, and community impact assessment have been undertaken in relation to its local implementation.

In particular, I am concerned about how any potential impacts on women and girls’ perceived and actual safety in the local area have been considered, including pedestrian routes to school, public spaces, and general community use.

I would be grateful for details of what mitigation measures, supervision arrangements, and community safety provisions have been put in place locally, and how these have been assessed as sufficient to address any identified risks.”

Yeah. It's true. They just don't want them near. I personally never had any issue with them but yeah, it's a big city where they're diluted into the population easily.

If it's where I'm thinking, it's near a very liberal and wealthy town where presumably the men will frequent as it isn't that far away. I mean I'd don't really understand why that's an issue. People are people. People in the nearest City are no different to your well healed town near to your village or indeed, the people in the village.

I thing that is crazy, as pp said, how on earth will those men have a chance to integrate in a small place with such a tiny population. I would also be uncomfortable with so many unknown single men from a culture very unlike our own descending on a small village, its a recipe for disaster.

That statement is just nonsense

That's right ..which is what many other towns and villages up north have to put up with ..that people turn a blind eye to ..call anyone complaining racist ..and just thank their lucky stars it's not like that where they live .
But such is the daily influx
,every area is going to have to take their fair share ,because the scale of the amount of people pouring in our country is huge ,it's massive .
The more the burden is shared out ,the more people will think when they put their X in the box

Why? Far more women are harmed by British men than by assylum seeking men, but no one's rioting (or making petitions) over that.

But it's a village near a town that is very liberal, I would imagine most men will frequent this town not being stuck in the village.

When the incomers outnumber the locals 2 to1, the incomers become the community.