AIBU to feel helpless about a large asylum camp in our village?

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My village has been chosen for a 1500 open asylum camp for single men. It will be an open camp (as the men haven't done anything wrong so aren't detained.)

The thing is the village only has 700 people and it is pretty isolated. it's about 10 miles to the nearest city and you can walk to another small village. There is a playpark, a pub and a primary school.

It has to go through planning, but the government have changed the planning laws so that they grant themselves planning and you can't see it as it is deemed sensitive. So they will just grant themselves planning and you can't oppose it without a judicial review--by which time it will probably be already open.

They want to reduce the number of people in hotels. But am AIBU to think that this puts the burden of sorting these issues out on one tiny community? Feels like we are collateral damage to be honest. The community will be outnumbered 2 to 1 and it feels too much. There is nothing for them to do or places to go. Also the fact that it is all single men put in one massive place with no money or means or anything to do is going to lead to problems

Apparently the camps cost £10 less a night than the hotels. But they don't count the set up costs which are astronomical (the one in Essex was £47 million to set up). So it seems like it's not not even cheaper than the problem it is trying to solve but much more expensive.

AIBU to feel a bit helpless? It seems so unfair but there is nothing I can do. We wouldn't be able to move from the village anyway as no one would buy a house here.

Whoever gets in after Labour, likely reform, will leave the ECHR. That's going to change the landscape dramatically.

We explain the clear per capita evidence some nations hold and she ignores it and asks for "balance".

Where would you feel safer London or Kabul?

Warsaw or Khartoum?

Paris or London? Neither, anymore.

They burnt down prospective migrant camps in Germany in Saxony.https://www.thetimes.com/uk/politics/article/arsonists-destroy-bavarian-hotel-earmarked-as-home-for-migrants-r60jf5gxfv6

"Or the person who suggested taking all the asylum seekers to sea and drowning them?"
No need for that. they are drowning themselves without any help from anyone else.🙄

Are you for real? Read a history book.

"British imperialism and exploitation in Sudan dates back to the mid-1800s, intensified into 56 years of colonial rule and led to civil war and the deaths of hundreds of thousands, as tensions created by British imposition of arbitrary borders drove a legacy of exploitation and conflict that left Sudan impoverished and war-torn."

https://www.stopwar.org.uk/article/britains-bloody-hands-sudans-ongoing-nightmare/ www.stopwar.org.uk/article/britains-bloody-hands-sudans-ongoing-nightmare/]]]]

They are here because we were there.

Ah I see, so fear of rapes and attacks and murders makes you far right and an Islamophobe.
Or it it just that fearing rapes attacks and murders mean you just fear rapes attacks and murders,but the left will try to silence you by pulling the far right/Islamaphobe card.

How many people from Sudan would you want to take in?

Although the system favours men, so how many men?

39-year-old Graham Marshall has been jailed after pleading guilty to a total of 12 sex offences, including bestiality.The devices contained bestiality content which had been carried out by both defendants over a three-year period and involved their pet dog.

www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c3rnp17znzlo

I really feel for you OP. I have a daughter and there is no way I’d be comfortable with this.

I don't care. What did a British citizen living today do anything to deserve having their society ruined?

So what's a few more that are even more likely to, eh?

I don't care any more.

Exactly.

Easy way to shut down a discussion… call them racists and being the tolerant little pussies we Brits are…..job done! What are we calling it now? Suicidal empathy? Change needs to happen as all of Europe now realises but how?

Again. White men do commit crime. We all accept that. Why import more in? Why ignore all the per capita rates?

Norway had to teach these migrant men not to rape.

Cologne had mass sexual assaults.

Hi OP. I live what sounds like not very far from you. I share your apprehension. Couple of points to add to the discussion. Firstly, when the camp was used by military personnel these were all men so what is the difference? The difference is that the MOD had their own Police and discipline. If there were any issues they would be dealt with swiftly and robustly. As I understand it, there will be no supervision of asylum seekers. Many military personnel used to live in our villages and we had connections with the base.

Single male asylum seekers represent an increased threat compared to UK men generally. There is evidence that their criminality is higher and attitudes to women are very different. This will leave me thinking carefully on what route I take on walks and I have had discussions with friends on walking in groups pairs.

Those of our friends with daughters are especially concerned.

Where would you rather go on holiday. Vienna or Johannesburg?

I literally couldn't give less of a stuff. After all this time perhaps they should have sorted themselves out as other countries have done.

We are not responsible for what happened 200 or so years ago.

No one has said that.

And how many of those responsible for what happened in Sudan are still alive now ? None. Yet again this nonsense rears it’s head - we should all be ashamed to be white and British because of things that happened long before we or even our grandparents were born.

When you say "we" who are you referring to? I'm pretty certain there's nobody alive today that was around in the 1800s.

Exactly.

Why are we being invaded because of something our ancestors did?

If you use that logic we should all invade Italy and Scandinavia because of what the Romans and the Vikings did to us !

If they win an election first past the post they'd be the biggest party and people voting for them would know there intentions. Reform want to create a British bill of rights copying most things across but getting us out of ECHR. The Conservatives want to do this too so anyone voting Reform or Conservative would surely give a mandate.

We can only hope