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AIBU to feel helpless about a large asylum camp in our village?

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putupwhatever · 29/06/2026 16:15

My village has been chosen for a 1500 open asylum camp for single men. It will be an open camp (as the men haven't done anything wrong so aren't detained.)

The thing is the village only has 700 people and it is pretty isolated. it's about 10 miles to the nearest city and you can walk to another small village. There is a playpark, a pub and a primary school.

It has to go through planning, but the government have changed the planning laws so that they grant themselves planning and you can't see it as it is deemed sensitive. So they will just grant themselves planning and you can't oppose it without a judicial review--by which time it will probably be already open.

They want to reduce the number of people in hotels. But am AIBU to think that this puts the burden of sorting these issues out on one tiny community? Feels like we are collateral damage to be honest. The community will be outnumbered 2 to 1 and it feels too much. There is nothing for them to do or places to go. Also the fact that it is all single men put in one massive place with no money or means or anything to do is going to lead to problems

Apparently the camps cost £10 less a night than the hotels. But they don't count the set up costs which are astronomical (the one in Essex was £47 million to set up). So it seems like it's not not even cheaper than the problem it is trying to solve but much more expensive.

AIBU to feel a bit helpless? It seems so unfair but there is nothing I can do. We wouldn't be able to move from the village anyway as no one would buy a house here.

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nomas · 29/06/2026 22:04

Tauranga · 29/06/2026 22:00

He can... he is doing his job.

Ok Mr Tauranga.

nomas · 29/06/2026 22:06

ChardonnaysBeastlyCat · 29/06/2026 22:04

’one too many’ implies that there is an acceptable number of rapes and that that threshold is crossed.

I happen to think that no number is rapes is ever acceptable.

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No, one too many rape is already more than what’s acceptable i.e. any number (even just one) is too many.

GaIadriel · 29/06/2026 22:06

JuliaBraverman · 29/06/2026 22:00

It really is this simple but it seems to have gone too far to reverse not just in UK but in whole of Europe.

I think it could be significantly reduced. If there was suddenly an outbreak of a virus 10x worse than covid in Eritrea they'd stop them tomorrow.

nomas · 29/06/2026 22:07

Cannybeme · 29/06/2026 22:04

@nomas Yes we get it. We have bad people born and bred here too. Unsure why you feel the need to highlight it?

Did you highlight the person upthread who suggested someone burn down the asylum seeker camp?

Or the person who suggested taking all the asylum seekers to sea and drowning them?

BlueFahrenheit · 29/06/2026 22:07

I wouldn't like it and would move.

As we've seen in the news, many of these men have deep-seated anger issues.

ISnoggedYourMum · 29/06/2026 22:08

@nomas just ignores the per capita data from our friends in Europe.

Ignores that in some nations VAWG is astronomical compared to the UK and men from those nations pose a risk. And just replies "hurr durr but this bad white person". No shit. We don't like this bad white Brit, let's not import anymore in.

ThePeppyMentor · 29/06/2026 22:08

I'm so sorry OP. This must be terrifying for you. You'll have to sell your house at a great loss and try and find somewhere cheap to rent, are there any family members you coild move in with, even temporarily? Your family's personal safety is more important, especially if you have daughters.

daisybanks · 29/06/2026 22:10

Greywhitesparrow · 29/06/2026 22:04

I thought one of the reasons Polish people are returning to Poland is because Poland is thriving. Excellent benefits for families and decent healthcare.

And a total ban on immigration - https://nordicreporter.com/2025/02/poland-refuses-to-comply-with-eu-immigration-rules-while-leading-the-union/

ChardonnaysBeastlyCat · 29/06/2026 22:11

nomas · 29/06/2026 22:06

No, one too many rape is already more than what’s acceptable i.e. any number (even just one) is too many.

That’s not what it means.

suburburban · 29/06/2026 22:11

Tauranga · 29/06/2026 21:33

But also, the ones I like, I do not want here.

I don't want to pay fir anyone anymore.
We find ourselves in competition for funding. Healthcare and policing.
Our kids pay for university if you are a refugee it is free. Yes, free. Called a waver. 80 universities offer these.

I don't care anymore. I want them all gone. The good, the bad and the mediocre.

Whilst our own dc have student debt, funny that

SingtotheCat · 29/06/2026 22:12

Lavender14 · 29/06/2026 16:24

"The community will be outnumbered 2 to 1 "

This is a really unhelpful way to look at it and it kind of speaks to an 'us and them' mentality op. That part I would say really isn't a fair thing and is your exposure to stereotypes speaking. I've worked extensively with single asylum seeking males and ALL of them bar none have been nothing but respectful individuals who were really keen to learn English, learn our culture, build a home and a life for themselves so they could get female or elderly relatives to safety. Most of them were strongly opposed to any sort of extremism which is what they were often running from. I have never ever felt unsafe working with them in the way I have with some local men.

Aside from that I think you are right to be concerned about the impact on community infrastructure which is a totally separate issue. I'd be asking council for their plans around access to healthcare and services that promote health, wellbeing and inclusion.

What I would also say is that for a small village this will likely bring a lot of money to your local shops, volunteers for local charity groups and probably new visitors to your local churches. So your community, if they approach this right, will have the benefit of people with free time and skills/ abilities to lend which is
in real decline in the current climate.

Regardless of race/origin, it’s men!
So 700 locals + 1500 males, 50% girls/women locals = 350 women and girls and 1850 men/boys. That is not a good demographic and as a woman, I would feel very unsafe as a result of the imbalance.
Terrible idea.

EasternStandard · 29/06/2026 22:12

lightseeker · 29/06/2026 21:59

The point t is, my girls wouldn't be aware if they were walking past a migrant facility. The streets are busy - how would you know? There are all kinds of 'facilities' on the streets. All kinds of homeless hostels, etc. The ones I'm most worried about are mental health facilities housing men just out of secure psychiatric hospitals. Asylum seekers are just 'men on the streets' to us - no different to anyone else and not distinguishable. Creepy men come in all walks of life.

1500 is more men than the op’s village. It’s not busy.

Perhaps it’s a London answer rather than thinking about what the op is asking.

nomas · 29/06/2026 22:12

ISnoggedYourMum · 29/06/2026 22:08

@nomas just ignores the per capita data from our friends in Europe.

Ignores that in some nations VAWG is astronomical compared to the UK and men from those nations pose a risk. And just replies "hurr durr but this bad white person". No shit. We don't like this bad white Brit, let's not import anymore in.

No, it’s about balance.

I’m all for government taking action on ensuring asylum seekers follow UK law, just as I’m all for the government taking action to educate young boys about rejecting the manosphere.

But if you try and misrepresent that 13 Afghan rapes are more than 140,000 white male rapes, then that needs correcting.

nomas · 29/06/2026 22:13

ChardonnaysBeastlyCat · 29/06/2026 22:11

That’s not what it means.

I’m embarrassed for you.

ChardonnaysBeastlyCat · 29/06/2026 22:13

nomas · 29/06/2026 22:13

I’m embarrassed for you.

Don’t be.

smallglassbottle · 29/06/2026 22:14

JuliaBraverman · 29/06/2026 22:00

It really is this simple but it seems to have gone too far to reverse not just in UK but in whole of Europe.

And Australia, interestingly enough. Funny how some countries are experiencing this and others aren't.

nomas · 29/06/2026 22:14

ChardonnaysBeastlyCat · 29/06/2026 22:13

Don’t be.

👍

ISnoggedYourMum · 29/06/2026 22:15

Where do you think a German mum feels her DD would be safer travelling, London or Kabul?

JuliaBraverman · 29/06/2026 22:15

nomas · 29/06/2026 22:12

No, it’s about balance.

I’m all for government taking action on ensuring asylum seekers follow UK law, just as I’m all for the government taking action to educate young boys about rejecting the manosphere.

But if you try and misrepresent that 13 Afghan rapes are more than 140,000 white male rapes, then that needs correcting.

Do you have a link for that statistic?

Cannybeme · 29/06/2026 22:16

nomas · 29/06/2026 22:07

Did you highlight the person upthread who suggested someone burn down the asylum seeker camp?

Or the person who suggested taking all the asylum seekers to sea and drowning them?

No. I want to question why your counter argument to people being upset about unvetted, out of work, little to no prospect men with no respect for women, being housed near them and having genuine worries about their daughters, gets the response from you that white British men do it to.

Thatsnotmynameno · 29/06/2026 22:16

Anyahyacinth · 29/06/2026 19:26

What’s to be feared about being a minority? Don’t we treat minorities well in the UK?

Don't be naive. Having 1500 fighting age men, from a completely different background, culture, traumas, mixing in with 700 "natives" is not a good idea. Are your eyes closed to what's happening in other areas or is that all just part and parcel.

ISnoggedYourMum · 29/06/2026 22:17

nomas · 29/06/2026 22:12

No, it’s about balance.

I’m all for government taking action on ensuring asylum seekers follow UK law, just as I’m all for the government taking action to educate young boys about rejecting the manosphere.

But if you try and misrepresent that 13 Afghan rapes are more than 140,000 white male rapes, then that needs correcting.

And I'm all for denying them any chance to stay here and deporting then.

SpaceRaccoon · 29/06/2026 22:17

"An asylum seeker accused of ‘raping six animals’, leaving one dead, claims he was a “normal person”. " Normal for Afghanistan perhaps. Not really who I want to share a country with here though.

https://www.express.co.uk/news/world/2220949/asylum-seeker-raped-5-goats

Asylum seeker who 'raped 5 goats' says 'I am a normal person'

He is alleged to have sexually assaulted five goats and a six-month-old lamb.

https://www.express.co.uk/news/world/2220949/asylum-seeker-raped-5-goats

glitterpaperchain · 29/06/2026 22:17

Threads like this are so frustrating. I was hopeful at the start that there might be a reasonable discussion about what a solution could look like, but it's just been taken over by people who want them all gone because 'culture' and 'they'reall criminals'. The fact is, whether you want it or not, the UK is not going to suddenly stop taking in all asylum seekers. It is happening, so it would be more productive to talk about how to manage it rather than just ranting about how you want it all to stop.

Whether you agree with her political stance or not, PP who talked about how it would be better to house them near her in a big city has spoken the most sense. Asylum seekers ARE coming here, so PP suggests it would be better to house them near to existing infrastructure rather than in the countryside.

It's a shame that these threads just get taken over by extreme views because it completely stops any balanced discussion of solutions that are grounded in our current reality.

GaIadriel · 29/06/2026 22:18

Greywhitesparrow · 29/06/2026 22:04

I thought one of the reasons Polish people are returning to Poland is because Poland is thriving. Excellent benefits for families and decent healthcare.

I watched an interesting clip of a Polish politician debating all this a while back. May even have been their PM.

He was debating a bloke who was attempting to guilt trip him about having not accepted many refugees. He just flat out stood his ground and said words to the effect of "we've donated generously but we're not taking lots of immigrants. Our populace has voted us in because they share our values and our responsibility is to them. We're a Christian country with Christian values and that will change if we allow mass immigration. We don't want that so we're not doing that".

The other guy kept trying argument after argument but it was water off a duck's back. The answer was no. That's what a lot of people don't realise. All this emotional blackmail/PC bullying relies on people feeling guilty. It's powerless if people just say nope with no fucks given.

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