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AIBU to feel helpless about a large asylum camp in our village?

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putupwhatever · 29/06/2026 16:15

My village has been chosen for a 1500 open asylum camp for single men. It will be an open camp (as the men haven't done anything wrong so aren't detained.)

The thing is the village only has 700 people and it is pretty isolated. it's about 10 miles to the nearest city and you can walk to another small village. There is a playpark, a pub and a primary school.

It has to go through planning, but the government have changed the planning laws so that they grant themselves planning and you can't see it as it is deemed sensitive. So they will just grant themselves planning and you can't oppose it without a judicial review--by which time it will probably be already open.

They want to reduce the number of people in hotels. But am AIBU to think that this puts the burden of sorting these issues out on one tiny community? Feels like we are collateral damage to be honest. The community will be outnumbered 2 to 1 and it feels too much. There is nothing for them to do or places to go. Also the fact that it is all single men put in one massive place with no money or means or anything to do is going to lead to problems

Apparently the camps cost £10 less a night than the hotels. But they don't count the set up costs which are astronomical (the one in Essex was £47 million to set up). So it seems like it's not not even cheaper than the problem it is trying to solve but much more expensive.

AIBU to feel a bit helpless? It seems so unfair but there is nothing I can do. We wouldn't be able to move from the village anyway as no one would buy a house here.

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lightseeker · 29/06/2026 21:07

EasternStandard · 29/06/2026 21:00

Would you be ok with the 1500 men site nearby to you?

Those berating the op and others must be surely.

Honestly yes. They could out them in hotels around me in London and nobody would even notice. There's millions of tourists here all the time anyway. How can you tell an asylum seeker from a tourist, or from a student, or from a resident when you're out and about in London or other cities? You can't.

TheBlueKoala · 29/06/2026 21:07

@putupwhatever Yanbu. 1500 men- the majority from countries with no existing women's right. If I had daughters I would move far, far away...

5MinuteArgument · 29/06/2026 21:08

SpaceRaccoon · 29/06/2026 20:56

Given some fairly horrific assaults and murders across Europe, I strongly suspect that a proportion of these men are fleeing justice for serious crimes.
I also wonder if some countries aren't deliberately pointing their criminally insane at the West.

Yes, I believe some of this is men fleeing justice in their home countries, not fleeing persecution at all but fleeing the law because they're criminals. Also some of it is countries emptying their prisons into the west. I think there is an element of this and that's why some of the men coming over are so incredibly dangerous.

glitterpaperchain · 29/06/2026 21:08

Naunet · 29/06/2026 21:06

So youre anti multiculturalism too then by your own ridiculous logic. Congratulations

I don't believe I actually gave any opinion on multiculturalism, I'm rather pointing out that being against it includes being against Jewish culture. It helps if you read what I write rather than make stuff up

JuliaBraverman · 29/06/2026 21:08

OneAmberFinch · 29/06/2026 21:05

I want this country to remain recognisably English. I want the dominant culture to be English. I want English people practising English culture - in every meaning of that term including language, religion, what they wear, how loudly they speak on buses, how they engage with government, etc ad nauseum - to feel perfectly at home and comfortable and not like they are travelling in a foreign land.

In order for this to happen there needs to be a critical mass of people actively practising that culture, having been immersed in it since birth.

Today in England there are people who are born here who cannot be said to meaningfully practise any aspect of that culture. Our ideals of diversity and religious tolerance came about in an age where we were essentially arguing about minor differences within Christianity that had very little impact on day to day culture since we'd already kicked out the most annoying Puritans. They're not fit for purpose when we find ourselves wringing our hands about whether it's mean to not want parades of foreigners chanting their way down the high streets of our cities, or as in the OP, not wanting villages overwhelmed with migrant camps...

There are 20th-century theoretical arguments about multiculturalism being different flavours of melting pot or stew or blah blah. They all rely on some kind of idealistic ideal that at least everyone's in the same pot - something like, on Sundays we each go into a different church and then come out a bit later to all play cricket on the village green together.

All those metaphors can get in the bin because we're no longer even cooking in the same kitchen.

Great post

thefloorislavayes · 29/06/2026 21:08

EmeraldShamrock000 · 29/06/2026 20:43

Denmark is hardly handling mass immigration well, or they haven’t been. They are experiencing the same problems as Ireland and England. The country has changed drastically.
Even if we cannot deport the people already here, they have to stop this going forward.
The destabilisation of Europe is only going to get worse. Is there some secret money pot the government is receiving from allowing this
madness. I’ll believe these changes when they happen, for be it’s more distraction tactics.

Edited

I agree however in the last 2 years they've managed to reverse migration in Denmark, the same can be achieved in the UK

nomas · 29/06/2026 21:09

JuliaBraverman · 29/06/2026 21:06

What is the point in bringing certain cases up? Of course we know that there are white men here who commit crimes… unfortunately we are stuck with them. Even more reason not to bring more men here!

Interesting that as soon as anyone brings up white men, it's challenged as unnecessary.

No one has argued to bring in more men!

Puzzledandpissedoff · 29/06/2026 21:09

SpaceRaccoon · 29/06/2026 20:56

Given some fairly horrific assaults and murders across Europe, I strongly suspect that a proportion of these men are fleeing justice for serious crimes.
I also wonder if some countries aren't deliberately pointing their criminally insane at the West.

Your first paragraph could easily be true, SpaceRaccoon, and your second certainly is ... look up Castro's Mariel Boat lift for example

WhatFreshHelll · 29/06/2026 21:09

IsEveryUserNameBloodyTaken · 29/06/2026 21:07

It is not impossible to leave the ECHR.
Other European countries have or are in the process of ignoring the ECHR.
It appears that some European countries are also tackling the problem where before they let anyone in, as these countries have had bad problems with these migrants/asylum seekers, whatever you want to call them.

Yes other EU countries are part of the EU but did their own thing. We never did.
We toed the line and followed rules that was one of the reasons it didn't work for us .

TheBlueKoala · 29/06/2026 21:09

lightseeker · 29/06/2026 21:07

Honestly yes. They could out them in hotels around me in London and nobody would even notice. There's millions of tourists here all the time anyway. How can you tell an asylum seeker from a tourist, or from a student, or from a resident when you're out and about in London or other cities? You can't.

Tourists don't generally come from sharia law countries where women are second class citizens. Tourists have money and things to do. Tourists eventually go home.

nomas · 29/06/2026 21:09

lightseeker · 29/06/2026 21:07

Honestly yes. They could out them in hotels around me in London and nobody would even notice. There's millions of tourists here all the time anyway. How can you tell an asylum seeker from a tourist, or from a student, or from a resident when you're out and about in London or other cities? You can't.

London is not a limitless oasis, it makes sense to share the load, including in London.

SpaceRaccoon · 29/06/2026 21:09

5MinuteArgument · 29/06/2026 21:08

Yes, I believe some of this is men fleeing justice in their home countries, not fleeing persecution at all but fleeing the law because they're criminals. Also some of it is countries emptying their prisons into the west. I think there is an element of this and that's why some of the men coming over are so incredibly dangerous.

This is what I mean, one example but I've seen many such:

https://x.com/i/status/2071620074520154221

Lauren Chen (@TheLaurenChen) on X

My politics are whatever it takes to never have to cross paths with this individual

https://x.com/i/status/2071620074520154221

MightyDandelionEsq · 29/06/2026 21:10

nomas · 29/06/2026 21:07

No one's importing men.

It is clear to most that it’s young men on the boats and the stats back this up.

Visa overstayers seeking asylum are 62% male and predominantly from countries where women are seen as nothing but brood mares.

www.gov.uk/government/statistics/immigration-system-statistics-year-ending-june-2025/how-many-people-claim-asylum-in-the-uk

No thanks.

LuckyHazelFox · 29/06/2026 21:10

suburburban · 29/06/2026 21:07

So do I, feel sorry for my Dgc

I think you may have misread that post.

EasternStandard · 29/06/2026 21:10

lightseeker · 29/06/2026 21:07

Honestly yes. They could out them in hotels around me in London and nobody would even notice. There's millions of tourists here all the time anyway. How can you tell an asylum seeker from a tourist, or from a student, or from a resident when you're out and about in London or other cities? You can't.

I’m fine with people who want 1500 mass accommodation centres near them. If there was a way to have a town with the few telling the op that she is bu then everyone is happier.

The 8% can be nearby.

glitterpaperchain · 29/06/2026 21:11

glitterpaperchain · 29/06/2026 16:48

Yes I think racists/islamophobes/the far right have made it very difficult to have a balanced conversation about these things. They'll come in and say ridiculous things like 'it's vile they're all criminals' and you don't want to be lumped in with that or have the conversation derailed.

It's the same as building new build developments to be sold, you have to consider the impact on local infrastructure. The problem is, infrastructure is terrible everywhere, so there isn't really a good solution.

Wow look I predicted the future

Beentheredonethat98 · 29/06/2026 21:11

WhatAMarvelousTune · 29/06/2026 16:20

At a guess, I’d say OP is talking about the RAF Barnham site that was just announced in Suffolk.

Or is it Linton in North Yorks?

Naunet · 29/06/2026 21:12

glitterpaperchain · 29/06/2026 21:08

I don't believe I actually gave any opinion on multiculturalism, I'm rather pointing out that being against it includes being against Jewish culture. It helps if you read what I write rather than make stuff up

So you're against Jewish culture? I haven't made anything up, this was your argument, and I dont know why youd argue with the PP if you too are anti multiculturalism

LuckyHazelFox · 29/06/2026 21:12

glitterpaperchain · 29/06/2026 21:11

Wow look I predicted the future

So why is it the left who want to shut down conversation about immigration?

FlyingCatGirl · 29/06/2026 21:13

lightseeker · 29/06/2026 20:57

All these people spouting on about the threat of rape from migrants. Just listen to yourselves ffs! Turn off the GB News or whatever drivel you listen to. You are more likely to be raped by a man you know or on a date. In London or other major cities, we obviously all pass millions of men from all corners if the world every minute of every day. Funnily enough, Im no more likely to be attacked than if I was walking alone in some village or in the countryside. Get a grip people - please.

I agree, it's blown completely out of proportion! Yes there's some dangerous cultures in dark corners of the planet but it doesn't mean that many of them are here! I read earlier that 6 out of 7 rapes are commited by white British men!

Let's look at all the dark shit over the years in the UK:

Fred & Rose West
Hindley and Brady
The Ipswich murderer
Yorkshire ripper
Jimmy Savile
Gary Glitter
Rolf Harris
Christopher Halliwell 2 and potentially 5 murders
Stephen Port x 4 murders
Jeremy Bamber x 5 murders
The Black Cab Rapist
And this is just scratching the tiniest bit of surface of all the homegrown predators that have killed or raped! There's plenty of Ben out there who have killed or raped once or twice before being caught!

glitterpaperchain · 29/06/2026 21:13

Naunet · 29/06/2026 21:12

So you're against Jewish culture? I haven't made anything up, this was your argument, and I dont know why youd argue with the PP if you too are anti multiculturalism

Ok now I'm thinking you're either a troll or just lack reading comprehension. How on earth you got to 'so you're against Jewish culture' from my posts I don't know.

MightyDandelionEsq · 29/06/2026 21:13

EasternStandard · 29/06/2026 21:10

I’m fine with people who want 1500 mass accommodation centres near them. If there was a way to have a town with the few telling the op that she is bu then everyone is happier.

The 8% can be nearby.

Tale as old as time.

”not in my leafy suburb, give them to the working class crap areas”

MaturingCheeseball · 29/06/2026 21:13

Those in support, are you pro-open borders? And, if so, would you do away with border controls? So no passports or criminal checks. Because this is what the situation currently looks like with asylum seekers - they arrive without checks. It makes a mockery of people queuing at airports and biometric wotnots if you can tip up on the shore of your choice without any documents.

If I were OP I’d be hysterical. Would people here honestly be ok with their dds walking home alone from school knowing there were this many lone men in a rural area?

IsEveryUserNameBloodyTaken · 29/06/2026 21:14

whoopsnomore · 29/06/2026 20:30

Sounds like you have drunk the right-wing Kool-aid. Why do you immediately assume every young woman is in danger? A policy of treating asylum requests swiftly and efficiently means these young men have more chance of either being granted the right to remain (and work, and contribute, and integrate) or being denied and removed to their country of origin. Can the local community offer language classes, skills training...? Or default to hostility and fear. Which will engender hostility and defensiveness

Oh give over.

Teenytinydot · 29/06/2026 21:14

Naunet · 29/06/2026 21:04

Exactly, if women have to accept risk of rape from British men, they're just racists if they dont happily accept a risk of rape from forign men we're importing too.

🙄

It’s completely different. I don’t think people actually realise how fucked up some countries are.

Some poor people there have no education, no healthcare, no moral standing.

It really is incomprehensible to us. You need to go and watch Ross kemp extreme world. Even South Africa which is quite civilised by most people’s standards ie. I would travel there. 85% of under 12s have witnessed a rape.

This world is not equal. There’s a lot of fucked up people in it and a lot of fucked up cultures. And it’s sad for them yes. But do I want that here. Absolutely fucking not.

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