Help end medical misogyny. Sign our petition.

Help end medical misogyny.
Sign our petition.

Sign the petition

Please or to access all these features

AIBU?

Share your dilemmas and get honest opinions from other Mumsnetters.

AIBU to feel helpless about a large asylum camp in our village?

1001 replies

putupwhatever · 29/06/2026 16:15

My village has been chosen for a 1500 open asylum camp for single men. It will be an open camp (as the men haven't done anything wrong so aren't detained.)

The thing is the village only has 700 people and it is pretty isolated. it's about 10 miles to the nearest city and you can walk to another small village. There is a playpark, a pub and a primary school.

It has to go through planning, but the government have changed the planning laws so that they grant themselves planning and you can't see it as it is deemed sensitive. So they will just grant themselves planning and you can't oppose it without a judicial review--by which time it will probably be already open.

They want to reduce the number of people in hotels. But am AIBU to think that this puts the burden of sorting these issues out on one tiny community? Feels like we are collateral damage to be honest. The community will be outnumbered 2 to 1 and it feels too much. There is nothing for them to do or places to go. Also the fact that it is all single men put in one massive place with no money or means or anything to do is going to lead to problems

Apparently the camps cost £10 less a night than the hotels. But they don't count the set up costs which are astronomical (the one in Essex was £47 million to set up). So it seems like it's not not even cheaper than the problem it is trying to solve but much more expensive.

AIBU to feel a bit helpless? It seems so unfair but there is nothing I can do. We wouldn't be able to move from the village anyway as no one would buy a house here.

OP posts:
Thread gallery
12
thefloorislavayes · 29/06/2026 20:32

ExtraOnions · 29/06/2026 16:18

People don’t want them in Hotels or HMOs, so where are they supposed to go?

The govt are reusing ex-military bases, as I assume this is the cheapest option.

Edited

Where are they supposed to go? Why does it seem to you like this is the only option? They could be processed outside of the country - like they do in Denmark or like they're planning to do in the EU.

JoaNiic · 29/06/2026 20:33

Protest as much as you can. Get your village organised to get media coverage to make this not happen. It’s savage to bombard a community in this way. Please please publicise your plight and get yourselves a voice.

Nobody sane would want this inflicted upon them, it’s a gross infringement on an established peaceful community.

whoever is your MP, lobby them. Or try to get Rupert Lowe to speak on your behalf in parliament.

putupwhatever · 29/06/2026 20:33

5128gap · 29/06/2026 20:27

That's for the elected officials to answer, isn't it? And if they can't, then that adds weight to the argument. Simply saying they ARE going to present a danger will merely elicit the response OP doesn't want, that she is being racist and stereotyping. Asking how they can be reassured they are NOT a danger, is harder to brush off. Its a reasonable question.

I'm not saying I don't think some of the men aren't a danger or I wouldn't worried would I? I'm saying I think how the government are implementing it makes me helpless as there is absolutely no way of stopping it. It is being enforced on us and the village is collateral damage. Probably cos it is so small they figure it doesn't really matter if they piss us off.

OP posts:
GaIadriel · 29/06/2026 20:33

ISnoggedYourMum · 29/06/2026 20:22

Western men do assault women. It's sad but all the data shows it's lower per capita.

Men assault women in every country in the world. However, it's only in African and Middle Eastern countries that women get publicly gang raped in broad daylight by huge mobs of men. Imagine that happening on Oxford Street or Times Square!

suburburban · 29/06/2026 20:34

Tauranga · 29/06/2026 20:31

We can't take in any more.
If we only took the real asylum seekers, the worthy, the good...we would be outnumbered 100000000 to one.

We need to stop, and reconsider how to help.

Quite frankly, we need to help our own and let others help theirs.

Yes, we should have stopped it after Brexit

LakieLady · 29/06/2026 20:34

Teenytinydot · 29/06/2026 16:50

So do a trial.

Are you supposed to be here?

A - yes, then fine go
B - No - then leave
C - Undetermined - in which case you can stay here until we decide or you can leave

Not difficult. Every other country on the planet does this.

Edited

But that's what happens now. It takes a long time to determine whether an asylum claim is valid, and while that process is under way, those people have to stay somewhere. (

My friend came to the UK around 12 years ago, and it took nearly 2 years before she got a decision about her asylum application. I suspect that it may be longer now, as there are so many more asylum applications. They need to speed up the asylum decision making process.

LuckyHazelFox · 29/06/2026 20:34

whoopsnomore · 29/06/2026 20:30

Sounds like you have drunk the right-wing Kool-aid. Why do you immediately assume every young woman is in danger? A policy of treating asylum requests swiftly and efficiently means these young men have more chance of either being granted the right to remain (and work, and contribute, and integrate) or being denied and removed to their country of origin. Can the local community offer language classes, skills training...? Or default to hostility and fear. Which will engender hostility and defensiveness

I wonder if Rhiannon Whyte's mother thought her precious daughter was in danger just going to work.

canuckup · 29/06/2026 20:34

I'd feel helpless too.

No point trying to seek your house either

ISnoggedYourMum · 29/06/2026 20:35

If we didn't have Brexit. Swathes could have come through in 2015 after being naturalised.

thefloorislavayes · 29/06/2026 20:35

GlobalTravellerbutespeciallyBognor · 29/06/2026 20:29

How are they meant to get jobs and integrate etc if in small villages in the middle of nowhere? Even the most conscientious refugees will struggle to use their time profitably and productively. The less conscientious ones will need their time to be accounted for.

Presumably they are given allowances - how much and where does it come from?

Asylum seekers so not have the right to work

MightyDandelionEsq · 29/06/2026 20:35

whoopsnomore · 29/06/2026 20:30

Sounds like you have drunk the right-wing Kool-aid. Why do you immediately assume every young woman is in danger? A policy of treating asylum requests swiftly and efficiently means these young men have more chance of either being granted the right to remain (and work, and contribute, and integrate) or being denied and removed to their country of origin. Can the local community offer language classes, skills training...? Or default to hostility and fear. Which will engender hostility and defensiveness

I drank the “I’m a woman” kool aid which means I always have to live in suspicion and fear of men, especially men that come from cultures where it’s known that women are treated like whores and breeding machines. Especially men who are being imported in their tens of thousands which if allowed to carry on means that they will outnumber females in massive numbers. There’s no such thing as feminism in Afghanistan or Iraq. What is deemed acceptable over there in terms of behaviour to women and girls makes me want to weep.

So no, I don’t care about these men and I will fear their culture swamping my own culture openly and loudly.

canuckup · 29/06/2026 20:35

@LuckyHazelFox because statistically, every women is in danger

OneAmberFinch · 29/06/2026 20:35

ExtraOnions · 29/06/2026 16:18

People don’t want them in Hotels or HMOs, so where are they supposed to go?

The govt are reusing ex-military bases, as I assume this is the cheapest option.

Edited

Where are they supposed to go?

Home?

Haven't RTFT because that should be all that needs to be said...

JuliaBraverman · 29/06/2026 20:36

We should just admit that multiculturalism has not worked. It’s been an abject failure. A multiracial society however could work but that would mean integration and assimilation so who is to blame?

putupwhatever · 29/06/2026 20:36

JulietteHasAGun · 29/06/2026 20:29

It’s so odd. They were going to do this at an ex RAF base in Lincs. Much uproar but planning went through. They even had containers for living quarters delivered and there were adverts in the paper for staff. Then the government announced it wouldn’t happen and they’ve just moved it elsewhere by the sounds of it. To a similar sized village and rural location. 🤷‍♀️. Doesn’t make sense apart from wasting money and time.

I know. They did the same here already in 2022. Spent 1.5 million fannying around and had to pay Serco a multi-million pound compensation for breaking the contract. So it's already cost multiple millions. Then they canned it--now its back up. I saw that they thought the Wethersfield Camp would be 5 million and they have spent at least 49 million on it!

OP posts:
JuliaBraverman · 29/06/2026 20:37

Too late now though …

LuckyHazelFox · 29/06/2026 20:37

JuliaBraverman · 29/06/2026 20:36

We should just admit that multiculturalism has not worked. It’s been an abject failure. A multiracial society however could work but that would mean integration and assimilation so who is to blame?

Shall we start with Blair?

smallglassbottle · 29/06/2026 20:38

FlyingCatGirl · 29/06/2026 19:07

Please don't be so silly with your figures of 50 or 150 million! You are in a state of propaganda panic! It's between 700,000 and 900,000 and guess how many EU workers we lost because of Brexit! 460,000 so that's why these people are here and being processed because we've got to replace those people! 16 year olds on disability has trebled in 5 years, the more Brits try to go on benefits, the more we need these people!

Somehow I highly doubt that they're replacing the people we've lost. The numbers we are expected to take are unknown at the present time.

JuliaBraverman · 29/06/2026 20:38

MightyDandelionEsq · 29/06/2026 20:35

I drank the “I’m a woman” kool aid which means I always have to live in suspicion and fear of men, especially men that come from cultures where it’s known that women are treated like whores and breeding machines. Especially men who are being imported in their tens of thousands which if allowed to carry on means that they will outnumber females in massive numbers. There’s no such thing as feminism in Afghanistan or Iraq. What is deemed acceptable over there in terms of behaviour to women and girls makes me want to weep.

So no, I don’t care about these men and I will fear their culture swamping my own culture openly and loudly.

This

ilovebrie8 · 29/06/2026 20:38

MightyDandelionEsq · 29/06/2026 20:35

I drank the “I’m a woman” kool aid which means I always have to live in suspicion and fear of men, especially men that come from cultures where it’s known that women are treated like whores and breeding machines. Especially men who are being imported in their tens of thousands which if allowed to carry on means that they will outnumber females in massive numbers. There’s no such thing as feminism in Afghanistan or Iraq. What is deemed acceptable over there in terms of behaviour to women and girls makes me want to weep.

So no, I don’t care about these men and I will fear their culture swamping my own culture openly and loudly.

Spot on!

ISnoggedYourMum · 29/06/2026 20:38

JuliaBraverman · 29/06/2026 20:36

We should just admit that multiculturalism has not worked. It’s been an abject failure. A multiracial society however could work but that would mean integration and assimilation so who is to blame?

There are some parts of the country you go to and it just feels like crap

5MinuteArgument · 29/06/2026 20:38

Lavender14 · 29/06/2026 16:24

"The community will be outnumbered 2 to 1 "

This is a really unhelpful way to look at it and it kind of speaks to an 'us and them' mentality op. That part I would say really isn't a fair thing and is your exposure to stereotypes speaking. I've worked extensively with single asylum seeking males and ALL of them bar none have been nothing but respectful individuals who were really keen to learn English, learn our culture, build a home and a life for themselves so they could get female or elderly relatives to safety. Most of them were strongly opposed to any sort of extremism which is what they were often running from. I have never ever felt unsafe working with them in the way I have with some local men.

Aside from that I think you are right to be concerned about the impact on community infrastructure which is a totally separate issue. I'd be asking council for their plans around access to healthcare and services that promote health, wellbeing and inclusion.

What I would also say is that for a small village this will likely bring a lot of money to your local shops, volunteers for local charity groups and probably new visitors to your local churches. So your community, if they approach this right, will have the benefit of people with free time and skills/ abilities to lend which is
in real decline in the current climate.

Hey, OP, get this. Having an influx of 1,500 single males into your village is going to bring men with loads of time on their hands, loads of skills and abilities. Sounds like you really ought to be campaigning to have more of them sent your way!

JuliaBraverman · 29/06/2026 20:39

LuckyHazelFox · 29/06/2026 20:37

Shall we start with Blair?

Absolutely! As the biggest critic of Thatcher back in the day, I now find myself thinking what would SHE do!

glitterpaperchain · 29/06/2026 20:40

JuliaBraverman · 29/06/2026 20:36

We should just admit that multiculturalism has not worked. It’s been an abject failure. A multiracial society however could work but that would mean integration and assimilation so who is to blame?

I don't understand how people are apparently so against antisemitism and yet feel comfortable to be openly against multiculturalism.

LuckyHazelFox · 29/06/2026 20:40

JuliaBraverman · 29/06/2026 20:39

Absolutely! As the biggest critic of Thatcher back in the day, I now find myself thinking what would SHE do!

I reckon Kemi Badenoch could answer that!

Please create an account

To comment on this thread you need to create a Mumsnet account.

This thread is not accepting new messages.