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AIBU to feel helpless about a large asylum camp in our village?

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putupwhatever · 29/06/2026 16:15

My village has been chosen for a 1500 open asylum camp for single men. It will be an open camp (as the men haven't done anything wrong so aren't detained.)

The thing is the village only has 700 people and it is pretty isolated. it's about 10 miles to the nearest city and you can walk to another small village. There is a playpark, a pub and a primary school.

It has to go through planning, but the government have changed the planning laws so that they grant themselves planning and you can't see it as it is deemed sensitive. So they will just grant themselves planning and you can't oppose it without a judicial review--by which time it will probably be already open.

They want to reduce the number of people in hotels. But am AIBU to think that this puts the burden of sorting these issues out on one tiny community? Feels like we are collateral damage to be honest. The community will be outnumbered 2 to 1 and it feels too much. There is nothing for them to do or places to go. Also the fact that it is all single men put in one massive place with no money or means or anything to do is going to lead to problems

Apparently the camps cost £10 less a night than the hotels. But they don't count the set up costs which are astronomical (the one in Essex was £47 million to set up). So it seems like it's not not even cheaper than the problem it is trying to solve but much more expensive.

AIBU to feel a bit helpless? It seems so unfair but there is nothing I can do. We wouldn't be able to move from the village anyway as no one would buy a house here.

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ISnoggedYourMum · 29/06/2026 20:22

GaIadriel · 29/06/2026 20:00

So what happened on that NYE in Germany when 1200 women were sexually assaulted on one night by a mob of men of 'North African/Arab appearance' many of whom were asylum seekers?

It's not exactly out of character either. Mob sexual assaults are common in places like Egypt. Read about what happened to Lara Logan and a fair few other journalists. It's even got a name, translating to either 'the circle of hell' or 'the rape game'.

Western men are not sexually assaulting hundreds of women in feral mobs.

Western men do assault women. It's sad but all the data shows it's lower per capita.

JuliaBraverman · 29/06/2026 20:22

Allseeingallknowing · 29/06/2026 20:11

Not half as vile as Frumpitydoo’s comment which several have reported

Oh that’s ok then. Obviously a race to the bottom

suburburban · 29/06/2026 20:22

ExtraOnions · 29/06/2026 16:18

People don’t want them in Hotels or HMOs, so where are they supposed to go?

The govt are reusing ex-military bases, as I assume this is the cheapest option.

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They need to be stopped from coming to the UK in the first place, it is never ending and we have already taken in loads. What about the cost to the environment of all these extra people

as someone else said upthread we have young people who need to be in work and given opportunities, it’s not our responsibility to take all these third world migrants

TENSsion · 29/06/2026 20:22

It’s such a shame those who have no problem with this can’t have a home swap with those who do.

ilovebrie8 · 29/06/2026 20:23

OP I’m confused where you are what is the army base if you don’t mind me asking? Is it the one in North Yorkshire?

Worldinyourhands · 29/06/2026 20:24

Ketzele · 29/06/2026 19:12

People seeking asylum often dont have the option to use legal channels. If you are in fear of your life from a repressive regime, you can't really ask them to give you a visa. That's why the law accepts that it is NOT illegal to not have full legal documentation at the point of claiming asylum.

There's a lot of people who really don't understand how this works. But I bet if any of us were in, say, Afghanistan, and our 17 year old son was under threat from the Taliban, we would move heaven and earth to smuggle them across to the UK.

France isn't Afghanistan.

MightyDandelionEsq · 29/06/2026 20:24

TENSsion · 29/06/2026 20:22

It’s such a shame those who have no problem with this can’t have a home swap with those who do.

I hope for all those who vote for this and openly preach that it’s the kind thing, when the £350 a month comes in from Labour to house a fighting aged male from the Middle East that they do it.

LuckyHazelFox · 29/06/2026 20:24

TENSsion · 29/06/2026 20:22

It’s such a shame those who have no problem with this can’t have a home swap with those who do.

"Refugees are welcome here". I would love to know who commissions those ubiquitous signs. I have a rough idea.

SpaceRaccoon · 29/06/2026 20:24

I must admit my compassion for, and willingness to fund these men, is now depleted.

Daysgo · 29/06/2026 20:25

Lavender14 · 29/06/2026 16:24

"The community will be outnumbered 2 to 1 "

This is a really unhelpful way to look at it and it kind of speaks to an 'us and them' mentality op. That part I would say really isn't a fair thing and is your exposure to stereotypes speaking. I've worked extensively with single asylum seeking males and ALL of them bar none have been nothing but respectful individuals who were really keen to learn English, learn our culture, build a home and a life for themselves so they could get female or elderly relatives to safety. Most of them were strongly opposed to any sort of extremism which is what they were often running from. I have never ever felt unsafe working with them in the way I have with some local men.

Aside from that I think you are right to be concerned about the impact on community infrastructure which is a totally separate issue. I'd be asking council for their plans around access to healthcare and services that promote health, wellbeing and inclusion.

What I would also say is that for a small village this will likely bring a lot of money to your local shops, volunteers for local charity groups and probably new visitors to your local churches. So your community, if they approach this right, will have the benefit of people with free time and skills/ abilities to lend which is
in real decline in the current climate.

This post exemplifies why Reform will win the next election or at least be the biggest partner in government. The ops experience or supposed experience, leads her to basically accuse the original poster with extremely justifiable concerns, v carefully ofc, of stereotyping etc.

I really think many people in western Europe have either a death wish for our culture or alternatively an absolute inability to see that different cultures can be very different, and that this can and does lead to both immediate and generational problems.

MrsWalker2025 · 29/06/2026 20:26

Allseeingallknowing · 29/06/2026 17:40

And some have several wives, who will be claiming benefits ( they’re allowed to!) plus their children!

Can you provide a link to support this? Because asylum seekers aren’t allowed to claim benefits

nomas · 29/06/2026 20:26

carly2803 · 29/06/2026 20:20

point is - why the fuck are we even making these camps!? send them home or the prison in the middle of the ocean

Maybe stop selling weapons to their governments.

ISnoggedYourMum · 29/06/2026 20:27

I wouldn't risk death to flee France. I've enjoyed my trips there.

5128gap · 29/06/2026 20:27

Allseeingallknowing · 29/06/2026 19:39

How on earth can you check that these men are of good character?

That's for the elected officials to answer, isn't it? And if they can't, then that adds weight to the argument. Simply saying they ARE going to present a danger will merely elicit the response OP doesn't want, that she is being racist and stereotyping. Asking how they can be reassured they are NOT a danger, is harder to brush off. Its a reasonable question.

GaIadriel · 29/06/2026 20:27

EmeraldShamrock000 · 29/06/2026 20:18

I think about two different cases, the brighton beach rape on the rocks by 3 men and the second, the young lady who fell asleep in the park on a bench, she had a cardiac arrest after he oral raped her, choking her to death with his penis.
Rapes have always been a problem, stranger rapes weren’t as common as it is now, it used to be someone you knew, now it’s both. Being attacked from everywhere.

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It just confirms to me that a lot of the people that wang on about male violence etc don't really care about the victims. It's all about virtue signalling and telling off men. These individuals wouldn't dare criticise an ethnic minority because that's a risky topic in the sphere of virtue/political correctness.

Tauranga · 29/06/2026 20:28

Ketzele · 29/06/2026 20:10

I'd say that needs to be managed by the facility and local police, and cautions for sexual harassment or antisocial behaviour should be taken into account when deciding asylum claims.

I'm not a bleeding heart. Of course some asylum complainants will be wrong 'uns. I'm just saying (1) that doesn't mean they all are, and (2) some of us live in areas that have plenty of their own wrong 'uns, and we will be better placed to cope than a sleepy village somewhere.

A wrong un is a sweet way to describe a man who stabs his cafe server 20 times in the neck.

Rhiannon Whyte

A wrong un is a is a minimising word to describe a murder in a bank by a man just doing his job peacefully

Gurvinder Johal

And so on.

JulietteHasAGun · 29/06/2026 20:29

putupwhatever · 29/06/2026 16:19

It's a bit of a mix to be honest. There's some expensive houses and then quite a lot of affordable houses for the area as they are ex-MOD. It's a nice area, and our village is probably a bit more down to earth than some around us.

It’s so odd. They were going to do this at an ex RAF base in Lincs. Much uproar but planning went through. They even had containers for living quarters delivered and there were adverts in the paper for staff. Then the government announced it wouldn’t happen and they’ve just moved it elsewhere by the sounds of it. To a similar sized village and rural location. 🤷‍♀️. Doesn’t make sense apart from wasting money and time.

ladyofshertonabbas · 29/06/2026 20:29

You don’t even have to mention anything contentious such as cultural background; putting 1500 bored, single men in a small town isn’t a good idea

GlobalTravellerbutespeciallyBognor · 29/06/2026 20:29

How are they meant to get jobs and integrate etc if in small villages in the middle of nowhere? Even the most conscientious refugees will struggle to use their time profitably and productively. The less conscientious ones will need their time to be accounted for.

Presumably they are given allowances - how much and where does it come from?

EasternStandard · 29/06/2026 20:29

Tauranga · 29/06/2026 20:28

A wrong un is a sweet way to describe a man who stabs his cafe server 20 times in the neck.

Rhiannon Whyte

A wrong un is a is a minimising word to describe a murder in a bank by a man just doing his job peacefully

Gurvinder Johal

And so on.

Hmm yes. Is this what you mean by ‘wrong un’ @Ketzele?

whoopsnomore · 29/06/2026 20:30

Meadowfinch · 29/06/2026 16:24

You aren't helpless but you need to think ahead. Talk to the local planning authority and your MP? Ask what is being done to safeguard the local population. 1,500 young men with no female companions and nothing to do, will inevitably lead to tensions.

While the politicians are arguing, you need to consider the safety of every female in your house. Do you have dds? How do they get around? You'll need to reconsider if they walk to school, cycle or run on their own etc. Check your domestic security.

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Sounds like you have drunk the right-wing Kool-aid. Why do you immediately assume every young woman is in danger? A policy of treating asylum requests swiftly and efficiently means these young men have more chance of either being granted the right to remain (and work, and contribute, and integrate) or being denied and removed to their country of origin. Can the local community offer language classes, skills training...? Or default to hostility and fear. Which will engender hostility and defensiveness

Tauranga · 29/06/2026 20:31

NameChangeAgain48 · 29/06/2026 20:12

Thats why the process needs to be quicker.

Around half of asylum seekers are granted protection at the initial decision stage.

The faster we process claims, the sooner we can provide safety and support to those who are entitled to protection, whilereturning of those whose claims are unsuccessful.

Delays cost taxpayers money and leave genuine refugees in limbo, unable to work, contribute to society, or rebuild their lives.

We can't take in any more.
If we only took the real asylum seekers, the worthy, the good...we would be outnumbered 100000000 to one.

We need to stop, and reconsider how to help.

Quite frankly, we need to help our own and let others help theirs.

IsEveryUserNameBloodyTaken · 29/06/2026 20:32

Believeitornot · 29/06/2026 19:46

I live down the road and this is utter nonsense.

They haven’t moved in yet,how do you know your property value has altered if nothing has happened yet.

LuckyHazelFox · 29/06/2026 20:32

JulietteHasAGun · 29/06/2026 20:29

It’s so odd. They were going to do this at an ex RAF base in Lincs. Much uproar but planning went through. They even had containers for living quarters delivered and there were adverts in the paper for staff. Then the government announced it wouldn’t happen and they’ve just moved it elsewhere by the sounds of it. To a similar sized village and rural location. 🤷‍♀️. Doesn’t make sense apart from wasting money and time.

I can't begin to describe my anger for Lincs being used in this way.

SpaceRaccoon · 29/06/2026 20:32

Tauranga · 29/06/2026 20:28

A wrong un is a sweet way to describe a man who stabs his cafe server 20 times in the neck.

Rhiannon Whyte

A wrong un is a is a minimising word to describe a murder in a bank by a man just doing his job peacefully

Gurvinder Johal

And so on.

And Wayne Broadhurst.

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