AIBU to feel helpless about a large asylum camp in our village?

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My village has been chosen for a 1500 open asylum camp for single men. It will be an open camp (as the men haven't done anything wrong so aren't detained.)

The thing is the village only has 700 people and it is pretty isolated. it's about 10 miles to the nearest city and you can walk to another small village. There is a playpark, a pub and a primary school.

It has to go through planning, but the government have changed the planning laws so that they grant themselves planning and you can't see it as it is deemed sensitive. So they will just grant themselves planning and you can't oppose it without a judicial review--by which time it will probably be already open.

They want to reduce the number of people in hotels. But am AIBU to think that this puts the burden of sorting these issues out on one tiny community? Feels like we are collateral damage to be honest. The community will be outnumbered 2 to 1 and it feels too much. There is nothing for them to do or places to go. Also the fact that it is all single men put in one massive place with no money or means or anything to do is going to lead to problems

Apparently the camps cost £10 less a night than the hotels. But they don't count the set up costs which are astronomical (the one in Essex was £47 million to set up). So it seems like it's not not even cheaper than the problem it is trying to solve but much more expensive.

AIBU to feel a bit helpless? It seems so unfair but there is nothing I can do. We wouldn't be able to move from the village anyway as no one would buy a house here.

It happened near me, ex forces base, residents complained and it was overturned, however it's now going ahead😕

You're not wrong to be worried but this is the way the country is going.
Not only will they outnumber you they will have more stake in staying/establishing in your area than your own children and grandchildren will have because the government fund them whereas your family will be expected to find work and earn their own living which is becoming completely impossible in some areas. Factor in the fact they will be entitled to bring over their wives and children within a few years of arriving and you can wave goodbye to your village. It's ok though it doesn't really matter that your family may have lived there for centuries, all cultures are equal at the end of the day as they say!

I'd say that needs to be managed by the facility and local police, and cautions for sexual harassment or antisocial behaviour should be taken into account when deciding asylum claims.

I'm not a bleeding heart. Of course some asylum complainants will be wrong 'uns. I'm just saying (1) that doesn't mean they all are, and (2) some of us live in areas that have plenty of their own wrong 'uns, and we will be better placed to cope than a sleepy village somewhere.

Not half as vile as Frumpitydoo’s comment which several have reported

I would not be happy, especially with having daughters.

I hate that Farage scrote getting so much money for fuck all.

I find it hard to understand how women can minimise rape anyway. Then I think about what Rhiannon Whyte went through and the living hell her family are going through. How can anybody, with any decency, prioritise men over the safety of women and girls.

The only former prison I can find that was announced as being planned for use as an asylum centre was never actually used in the end:
"A former prison site once earmarked for asylum seeker accommodation will be redeveloped for housing, the government confirmed.
Homes England said the Home Office had officially transferred the HMP Northeye site in Bexhill-on-Sea, East Sussex to the housing agency."
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/ce8nj9g0352o
^Northeye prison closed in 1992 and later became a training facility for the UAE. This closed in 2019. https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2023/apr/04/photos-of-former-prison-chosen-to-house-asylum-seekers-show-squalid-conditions^

If there are other such places, the information is not as easy to find as you seem to suggest. This is the only one that comes up AFAICT.

Thats why the process needs to be quicker.

Around half of asylum seekers are granted protection at the initial decision stage.

The faster we process claims, the sooner we can provide safety and support to those who are entitled to protection, whilereturning of those whose claims are unsuccessful.

Delays cost taxpayers money and leave genuine refugees in limbo, unable to work, contribute to society, or rebuild their lives.

No it's not cheaper. They can just hide the true cost more easily than using hotels.

Why not house then all on a remote Scottish island? Would act as a disincentive and also boost the local economy.

Everyone sensible supports military bases locally because they are good people and doing a necessary job. Insane and completely unfair to do what the OP describes.

I am a law abiding person but I find this high handedness impossible to accept.

The Sudanese man recently in the news had been through that process.

Good luck getting on to an ex army site.

Hope they arrest you and throw away the key.

It just reminds me of the denial of reality we see in the trans debate where anybody who states that women don't have penises/humans can't change sex is called a hateful bigot.

I've worked for two Sikh businesses and also work with a lot of Muslims and a fair few African guys - the construction sector is a lot more diverse than most white collar environments. They don't consider these men to be anything like themselves and aren't scared to call a spade a spade.

It's western liberal culture that's seemingly terrified to say anything bad about people of an ethnic background. It often feels like anything is preferable to being accused of xenophobia, even if that anything is sexual assault of teenage girls and children.

Thanks. That’s what came up for me too.

I think a lot of us don’t care anymore ultimately. I certainly don’t care about a load of single men from questionable cultures arriving in their tens of thousands.

You arrive illegally with no documentation - we don’t know who you are and you could be a threat. The Brighton beach rapists, one was a known murderer in Egypt but we just let him loose into the community to gang rape a woman because we couldn’t do checks. I didn’t know Egypt was at war did you?

We can barely deport anyone even if they fail asylum so they just end up staying here as a net drain as we fight the European courts over stupid reasons like chicken nuggets.

Im so done with all the pussy footing around it. We can’t build enough houses for the strain of it and why should we have to? I’m sick of the fact it’s predominantly men who are just exploiting the system for their own gain.

Also if I’m correct the town is a city with 2 universities some of the best schools in the country and a thriving nightlife of hen parties (because it is such a safe place to live and visit). I pray that it remains that way but I really feel for you and if it helps I’ve signed the petition.

I think about two different cases, the brighton beach rape on the rocks by 3 men and the second, the young lady who fell asleep in the park on a bench, she had a cardiac arrest after he oral raped her, choking her to death with his penis.
Rapes have always been a problem, stranger rapes weren’t as common as it is now, it used to be someone you knew, now it’s both. Being attacked from everywhere.

Reform would have the same problems as all the other parties! It will be impossible to leave the ECHR

Personally I think putting fighting age males from the countries that our own military have gone into for war purposes is a recipe for disaster.

We don’t know if any of these men are sleeper agents and the security risk is high.

Also a slap in the face for our serving personnel I’d say.

tbf I don't know what I think. Don't really support any party as think they are all bullshitters. I think all the parties offer easy answers to difficult questions--but its tougher than that. My son is an active member of reform so i hear quite a lot of what they think. But it all sounds a bit pie in the sky to me and I think they just say what people want to hear to get into power and the sums don't add up,

I’ve reported this poster, so have others. Apart from being banned they should be reported to the Police!

The Telegraph reported that a further 7.8% were an “unknown” nationality - so possibly to add to the 14.1% in your screenshot (percentage of sexual offence convictions attributed to foreign nationals). An extra 7.8% would be a statistically significant increase. Without the full data we do not know either way.

point is - why the fuck are we even making these camps!? send them home or the prison in the middle of the ocean

Yes, it's a bloody insult. In fact, it's a pisstake. When I think about the amount of ex military bases which house war memorabilia AND raise money for ex forces personnel.

Absolutely there are so many reasons that this is wrong!

I'd start by asking why we even accept them. They have all crossed countless safe EU countries to get here!!

But somehow we end up being forced to pay for them. Madness of the highest order.

I can't stand Farage etc. But why do we even consider putting up with this?