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AIBU for thinking who TF does she think she is?

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CFornot123 · 26/06/2026 19:57

Aibu for thinking this is overstepping the fcking mark

Long story so will try to condense and keep to relevant details.

Been with ‘D’H for 13 years (married 6). We have 2 DCs aged 4 and 3. He’s 38, I’m 31. He has been bestfriends with a woman, let’s call her Jane, for 25 years (since they were teens) and there’s never been any romantic history between them.

In general she’s not really my kind of person. She’s quite blunt and a bit rude, uses racist language (I’m Asian) like it’s a casual word and tbh is a bit of a bully. However, knowing she means a lot to my husband, at the start of our relationship I made A LOT of effort to be friends with her and she was even one of my bridesmaids when we got married (the theory being that if she’d have been a guy, she’d have been a groomsman so wanted her to feel involved in the wedding as she Hs best friend). We were on maternity leave at the same time, both had baby girls at the same time (she’s married) etc. but around this same time (so 5 years ago) she stopped engaging with me, started ignoring messages, every plan I made with her she cancelled and then we weren’t invited to her daughters first birthday. Throughout all of this she maintained contact with my husband and they met up regularly for coffee. I raised concerns with H at the time and he brushed it off as “it’s just what Jane does, she’s a bit flaky, don’t take it personally”.

I’ve not spoken to her now for about 4 years, bar the odd hello if she happens to be at a family/friends event (a lot of shared mutual friends/large friendship groups). But she frequently meets up with H for drinks, dinner, brunch, they have regular video calls.

H and I have been going through a lot recently (we relocated from California after spending two years there for his job, I quit my corporate legal career to basically follow him around the world for his high paying role and have moved 10 times in the last 10 years) due to stress with house moves, redundancy and, me trying to figure out what career to do around the kids following a career in law (I’m a high achiever, degree from Oxbridge) and taking a back step. He works very long hours, lots of traveling as we moved to be closer to family as the girls are starting school soon so I said no more following him.

He met up with Jane last Saturday (they’d both been invited to their mutual friends wedding - I wasn’t) and when he came home on Sunday, he asked me to “make some time in my calendar to meet with him on Friday afternoon” (like I’m a business associate…). He told me today that he “discussed me at length with Jane” and THEY had decided that WE don’t communicate in our marriage enough. SHE also, in her expert opinion as a mental health nurse, diagnosed me with a borderline personality disorder based on everything she’s heard and seen from my husband over the last 13 years and that he should gently suggest I go to the GP. For context, like (so it seems) every other woman in their 30s I’m undergoing an ADHD assessment (VERY different to BPD).

So my AIBU - wtf has DH been saying to her about me that has led her to diagnose me with BPD after not speaking to me for 5 years? And who TF does she think she is?

We had no falling out, no cross words were said, I simply stopped making an effort with her and suggesting meeting up because she never made an effort with me and somehow that’s my fault and she hates me enough to say I have BPD?

Frustratingly H said she’s sent him to information to read up on about it.

So far I’ve not reacted or responded to H. I told him that I needed some time to process the conversation we’d just had and I’d discuss it with him when I felt ready

OP posts:
justasking111 · 27/06/2026 22:57

@CFornot123 your updates must be upsetting for you. Get your ducks in a row financially.

If you go to the NMC. She'll just deny it and you can't prove anything. She might even say her friends wife (you) have mental health issues. So I wouldn't poke that bear.

I wouldn't go poking around in your own mental health ADHD either just now. In case that's twisted around.

Be like the swan serene on the surface, paddle furiously your way to freedom though.

SparklyBrickViper · 27/06/2026 22:59

Fuck this for a game of soldiers.

Honestly tell him to leave. You and your children deserve so much more.

Lawyer up, ride it out and keep focused on coming out of this the other side.

HoppityBun · 27/06/2026 23:01

SparklyBrickViper · 27/06/2026 22:59

Fuck this for a game of soldiers.

Honestly tell him to leave. You and your children deserve so much more.

Lawyer up, ride it out and keep focused on coming out of this the other side.

Yes!

3WildOnes · 27/06/2026 23:02

Another one enraged on your behalf. I can't believe he has carried on discussing you with her, it's so incredibly disrespectful.

hoxtonbabe · 27/06/2026 23:04

CFornot123 · 27/06/2026 22:09

Update - he’s spent all day messaging her. I kept seeing her name pop up on his phone (he was driving and his phone was connected to the car). So clearly what I said about their relationship hasn’t sunk in and no doubt they’ve spent all day talking about me

I said this would happen!! He would go running to her complaining.

I don’t know how you are managing to not throttle him! I’m getting so wound up by him and it’s not even my husband!

ChinaKing · 27/06/2026 23:04

Just read your update. There's a cuckoo in your nest, OP. You need to get rid ASAP - either Jane or your DH.

Rosesandthorns66 · 27/06/2026 23:04

@Littlejellyuk

Wow, a long reply and very accurately put 💯%.

Also if he didn't show you the wedding invite.
My instinct is that its not that you weren't invited its your husband that didn't want to take you with him.

Your husband is showing you very strange behaviour, which is not of someone who is loving and loyal to you or respects you.

With Jane remaining in the picture, this is unlikely to improve and your husband won't break his friendship with Jane, so that means Jane is more important to him.

Unfortunately, this marriage doesn't look healthy if you stay in this marriage all you will suffer is the stress from whats going on with your husband and Jane.

NoSausage · 27/06/2026 23:10

I think you sound incredibly capable and might do well to mentally mute them and apply your energy to yourself.

Get back to work, build a life with new friends, and set yourself a 2 year deadline: if, after 2 years of trying your absolute best to focus your energy on building a "back up" life and "yes dear"-ing their/your relationship, I'd be astonished if you wanted to carry on down this path of trying to be a normal, civilised person with them, because you can't reason with unreasonable people.

They have a little private drama and always will have. It's their main life and you and her husband are (big) side characters to prop it up and feed it. Of it wasn't you, it would be someone else. Don't be the sideshow when you clearly deserve more.

Littlejellyuk · 27/06/2026 23:10

CFornot123 · 26/06/2026 19:57

Aibu for thinking this is overstepping the fcking mark

Long story so will try to condense and keep to relevant details.

Been with ‘D’H for 13 years (married 6). We have 2 DCs aged 4 and 3. He’s 38, I’m 31. He has been bestfriends with a woman, let’s call her Jane, for 25 years (since they were teens) and there’s never been any romantic history between them.

In general she’s not really my kind of person. She’s quite blunt and a bit rude, uses racist language (I’m Asian) like it’s a casual word and tbh is a bit of a bully. However, knowing she means a lot to my husband, at the start of our relationship I made A LOT of effort to be friends with her and she was even one of my bridesmaids when we got married (the theory being that if she’d have been a guy, she’d have been a groomsman so wanted her to feel involved in the wedding as she Hs best friend). We were on maternity leave at the same time, both had baby girls at the same time (she’s married) etc. but around this same time (so 5 years ago) she stopped engaging with me, started ignoring messages, every plan I made with her she cancelled and then we weren’t invited to her daughters first birthday. Throughout all of this she maintained contact with my husband and they met up regularly for coffee. I raised concerns with H at the time and he brushed it off as “it’s just what Jane does, she’s a bit flaky, don’t take it personally”.

I’ve not spoken to her now for about 4 years, bar the odd hello if she happens to be at a family/friends event (a lot of shared mutual friends/large friendship groups). But she frequently meets up with H for drinks, dinner, brunch, they have regular video calls.

H and I have been going through a lot recently (we relocated from California after spending two years there for his job, I quit my corporate legal career to basically follow him around the world for his high paying role and have moved 10 times in the last 10 years) due to stress with house moves, redundancy and, me trying to figure out what career to do around the kids following a career in law (I’m a high achiever, degree from Oxbridge) and taking a back step. He works very long hours, lots of traveling as we moved to be closer to family as the girls are starting school soon so I said no more following him.

He met up with Jane last Saturday (they’d both been invited to their mutual friends wedding - I wasn’t) and when he came home on Sunday, he asked me to “make some time in my calendar to meet with him on Friday afternoon” (like I’m a business associate…). He told me today that he “discussed me at length with Jane” and THEY had decided that WE don’t communicate in our marriage enough. SHE also, in her expert opinion as a mental health nurse, diagnosed me with a borderline personality disorder based on everything she’s heard and seen from my husband over the last 13 years and that he should gently suggest I go to the GP. For context, like (so it seems) every other woman in their 30s I’m undergoing an ADHD assessment (VERY different to BPD).

So my AIBU - wtf has DH been saying to her about me that has led her to diagnose me with BPD after not speaking to me for 5 years? And who TF does she think she is?

We had no falling out, no cross words were said, I simply stopped making an effort with her and suggesting meeting up because she never made an effort with me and somehow that’s my fault and she hates me enough to say I have BPD?

Frustratingly H said she’s sent him to information to read up on about it.

So far I’ve not reacted or responded to H. I told him that I needed some time to process the conversation we’d just had and I’d discuss it with him when I felt ready

Who on earth voted YABU?
2% honestly think that?
Seriously what! 🤦🏻‍♀️ 💩 🫩
@CFornot123

hoxtonbabe · 27/06/2026 23:10

3WildOnes · 27/06/2026 23:02

Another one enraged on your behalf. I can't believe he has carried on discussing you with her, it's so incredibly disrespectful.

He literally has zero respect for her, absolutely nowt and I don’t understand how OP can’t see this.

He even has the audacity to be bitching about her when sat next to her. I simply wouldn’t be able to contain myself and I would tell him to go start a life with Jane, and leave me in peace ( but with more colourful words!)

DoubleDIY · 27/06/2026 23:12

Apologies if this has been said already, but it sounds like the 10 day meeting when he lost his job may have been to see if it would be a good time to leave respective spouses. What were the drivers for moving back to UK?

Having also raised babies in the US with no family support, you sound like a boss woman and I bet you would be happier alone.

Buffs · 27/06/2026 23:22

CFornot123 · 27/06/2026 22:11

I happened to see a couple of the messages before he turned his screen off - he told her I’d said he was dismissive of me and her reply was “but you have reasons for that”. In what world is it ok for a husband to dismiss his wife and a person not involved in the marriage to tell him he justified in doing so “because he has reasons”.

This is completely out of order. How dare he discuss your mental health with that awful woman. Please, please do not put up with this, it is utterly disloyal.

BooneyBeautiful · 27/06/2026 23:30

TheBlueKoala · 26/06/2026 20:22

I have diagnosed Jane as a narcissistic bully who wants to keep your dh to herself. She's toxic as hell for your relationship and it's a shame your dh is blind to this. A mental health nurse doesn't have the capacity to diagnose- a psychiatrist does.

If OP had proof of what Jane said, I would be so tempted to report her to her professional body. Even without proof, a formal complaint made against her would not go down well! There would be lots of investigations which wouldn't be pleasant for Jane.

lazymaw · 27/06/2026 23:30

she’s set it up to where any push back from you will just confirm to her/him how ‘crazy’ or borderline you are. Get rid. Given time she’ll convince him to leave you if you don’t listen to her advice and ‘seek help’ whatever that would be. I’d be livid they are sitting discussing you. Ask him how he’d feel if tables were turned and you had discussed him with another man in the same depth, or how he’d feel by a similar ‘friendship’. I’d be tempted to go spend time with a male platonically, to prove this point.

OneFineDay22 · 27/06/2026 23:32

While the things Jane is saying are obviously not ok, she is being fed a one-sided version of everything by your H. Unfortunately he is absolutely the bad guy here.

I’d be tempted to insist on marriage counselling just so a professional can put him in his place as he’s clearly not going to listen to you.

(edited to remove D from DH)

HazelMember · 27/06/2026 23:33

OneFineDay22 · 27/06/2026 23:32

While the things Jane is saying are obviously not ok, she is being fed a one-sided version of everything by your H. Unfortunately he is absolutely the bad guy here.

I’d be tempted to insist on marriage counselling just so a professional can put him in his place as he’s clearly not going to listen to you.

(edited to remove D from DH)

Edited

He is only willing to listen to Jane who he is most likely sleeping with.

SparklyLeader · 27/06/2026 23:46

She is interfering in your marriage. She has been consistently negatively impacting his perception of his marriage, insulting you and destabilizing your children's security over years! Shame on him for not defending you, defending his marriage, and protecting his children. It is wholly unacceptable and intentionally harmful to the entire family.

What man allows anyone to attack the mother of his children? He actively fails as a husband and a father every time he allows this other woman to insult you, his wife and the mother of his children. He is weak, ineffective, snd easily manipulated for even discussing his marriage with another woman. Shame on him. He is very, very weak. He is not protecting his children from the harm of the poison that was dripped into his ear.

Read him the above but not the rest.

You let this go on for waaay too long. You are nowhere near angry enough. That woman is trying very hard to push you out of your marriage and he is letting her do it.

You need to interview therapists to find one that will tell your husband he has dragged another woman into his marriage and she is starting up sht because he let's her.

By the way, she has more information about your marriage than you do. You have let yourself get into the weakest possible position. You need to fix that asap.

You need a therapist, an actual expert, immediately, to counter whatever bllsit she is telling him. He MUST go to counseling with you. You go first to vet him (make sure it's a male because men listen to men).

If he refuses counseling you need a divorce lawyer. Start interviewing them. Do not tell him. Let the attorney do their thing. Tell the attorney you want her listed as one of the reasons. He gets served with her listed by name as part of a cause of action and he will likely snap to the grid. Let's hope it doesn't go as far as court.

You want the therapist, not you, to tell him he has to go cold turkey on her to rebuild his marriage or he will lose you and his children because he has inserted another woman into this marriage. It is grossly unfair to you and extraordinarly harmful to the children. He let's another woman insult their mother? Do not let that go by with the therapist.

Get your financials together, every penny, every account, every asset accounted for in spread sheets. Look at mail, emails, texts, chat records. Get deep into the credit card expenses. Go back as far as you need to in order to understand whether or not the money in your marriage has been compromised. Check his expense records with his company if he has those.

Find your huevos and stand up for your kids. How dare he let that btch interfere in your marriage and impact their lives by intentionally destabilizing their parents' marriage!

Ask the attorney if you can sue her for tortious interference. Probably not, but worth a shot.

Totalmayhem · 27/06/2026 23:55

Your dh is oxbridge educated but thinks the N word is ok??!! This is freaking insane. I hate to say but I think, given the gravity of his essential emotional betrayal (there really is no other word), you should get your proverbial ducks in a row NOW. Please get yourself back into any employment that works with your quals asap - please please don’t remain dependent on this fuckwit. Sending huge support! Xx

Aussiemum87 · 27/06/2026 23:59

Girl, this is not a Jane problem, this is a husband problem. How on earth is he letting this happen?
And the fact they are invited to things as a couple like weddings. Strange.

callmeLoretta1 · 28/06/2026 00:12

CFornot123 · 27/06/2026 22:11

I happened to see a couple of the messages before he turned his screen off - he told her I’d said he was dismissive of me and her reply was “but you have reasons for that”. In what world is it ok for a husband to dismiss his wife and a person not involved in the marriage to tell him he justified in doing so “because he has reasons”.

Ok, look, she is set on breaking up your marriage. You need to go to him now. You need to tell him you saw the messages, and tell him once and for all he needs to end his friendship with her. You won't have her undermining you and undermining your marriage, you know exactly what she is doing even if he can't see it. You're giving him a week (I'd say 24 hours, but you do you) to choose; his wife - the mother of his children and his children, or her. But he needs to make and choice and stick with it.

And if you won't show him this thread, at least print out/screenshot some really good responses from posters here that outlines exactly what she is doing, that will make him think.

Woodfiresareamazing2 · 28/06/2026 00:17

OP, I would contact your erstwhile friend who recently married and ask him why you weren't invited to his wedding ... you may well discover that you WERE invited but your H wanted to go with Jane.
Do you know if her husband went?

It's looking increasingly likely that their connection is significantly more than that of friends.

I think a PP called it when they said your H went to London for 10 days after getting fired to discuss the way forward with Jane.
How long ago was that?

That was truly bizarre behaviour for an apparently happily married man. Surely he should be discussing with his WIFE what the next move should be?!
What justification did he give you for doing that?
I would have been so furious if my H did that to me.
Like, talking separation furious.

He admitted to you that he was dismissive of you - did he say why? What are the "reasons for it" that he has obviously discussed with Jane?

Honestly, I wouldn't need much time to think about it.

I would be gathering all the financial info now, taking copies of everything, and preparing to divorce him.

Get yourself a great lawyer.

Member869894 · 28/06/2026 00:23

I would be telling him that she goes or I do.

TheresDirtInTheYurt · 28/06/2026 00:28

I haven't RTFT so apologies if this has already been mentioned, but women with ADHD are misdiagnosed with BDP surprisingly often. As a MH nurse 'Jane' should know that, and should know she's got her diagnosis the wrong way round.
She and your H sound like they deserve each other TBH.

GrumpyButOk · 28/06/2026 00:32

So you told him how damaging his friendship with Jane is to your feelings and your marriage, and his reaction was to spend the day messaging Jane? Sorry OP, you have your answer. You are the housekeeper and nanny, Jane is the FWB. You already knew this, so what are you hoping for now?

99bottlesofkombucha · 28/06/2026 00:40

this is just pull the plug now op. You can’t fix him.
dp, you’ve been messaging all day, partly about me I assume. You have no interest in putting in the work to fix our marriage, you are in complete denial about the effort I’ve put in and you haven’t, you get more social time than I do but refuse to acknowledge it, and most importantly this woman’s opinion is far more important to you than mine. I want a divorce, and you can discover parenting and all the things I have lovingly done for us, and manage your career without being 100% enabled by me. We are done. You can carry on your real relationship with the woman you care about and fuck off out of my life, except for our children. I’ll look up mediators to plan our separation. I’m looking forward to getting a life back for me, once I’m unencumbered by the selfish asshole I married and loved, more fool me.

he’s always been a selfish asshole op, cut him loose.

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