Teacher hand delivered certificate usually given out in class.

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I don’t know what to make of this, dc is in primary school and every week someone gets a certificate.
Suddenly I saw my child’s teacher walk past the lounge window at about 8 pm and post a certificate through the door.
Aibu to find it a bit strange and wonder why she did this having had to look up our address and purposely drive to our house when all certificates are handed out in school and she would see my child in the morning?

Thanks for the apology.
I think my accomplishments are just being good at my job, like many people are up and down the country.
Personally, I wouldn't have hand-delivered the certificate. It was naive, but I maintain that it was indeed kind. TBH I haven't read all the posts, but maybe for whatever reason the teacher thought the child wouldn't be in class that week.
What's annoyed me on this thread is all of the teacher-bashing, a lot of it dressed up as disingenuous GDPR concerns. In my school, we've been told that if we are accessing parental data, it has to be for school/work purposes. We are after all teachers, not GDPR specialists, but to me, delivering school documents counts as school purposes. I can access from Arbor the address of any pupil who has ever attended the school I work at in about 15 seconds- some posters seem to think the teacher went sleuthing through paper records by candelight to locate the address.

I used to run a free 30 min language club at my school during my lunchtime open to all and any speakers/learners of X language that I speak fluently. After a parent who spoke Y language complained that I didn't offer a free language club in that language, and said it was unfair and kicked off to the HT, we decided it was just easier to no longer offer any language clubs.

It can be both a GDPR breach and a thoughtless action towards the child. The 2 things aren't mutually exclusive and being able to look at a situation from multiple angles doesn't make someone over invested.

and the multiple posts about gdpr core principles and questioning other posters’ training, assessment results etc etc…of course that’s not being over invested.

Seriously the biggest load of crap I have ever read on here.

Is the heat getting to you?

You maintain that it's kind, but could you elaborate? I laid out exactly why I think it could actually be thoughtless in terms of how the child might feel, and I was hoping that you'd be able to offer some insight into that as a teacher.

I don't think any poster who has expressed concerns from a data perspective has said anything along the lines of thinking teachers need to go digging for pupil data. We know it's easily accessible, but the issue is WHY data is accessed and how it is processed. It's been posters on the other side who have kept asserting how easily they can access data, which is spectacularly missing the point.

If the patent feels that the child has missed out on their opportunity to be recognised in front of their classmates, if they think the teacher has been thoughtless, then that is even more reason to ask why it was done. The OP won’t ask though.

I think it's much nicer to receive certificate in class and feel proud in front of everyone, especially as that's how it's usually done.

Asking someone to elaborate on why they think something is kind, asking for more details so you might gain a greater insight into this situation…and you don’t think you are over invested?

Classic, are you quite alright?

Ask her, if its such a big deal pop into the school and ask the question.

."...We are after all teachers, not GDPR specialists..... I can access from Arbor the address of any pupil who has ever attended the school I work at in about 15 seconds-."

Let me help you out then, with GDPR knowledge - if thats really true, you can access the addresses of any child who ever attended th school, then that system is in breach of the GDPR. Its hard to see a justification for keeping those addresses indefinitely like that, and if there is some obscure need, they do not need to be available constantly, to all teachers at the school, without any need for a reason.

What you've said sounds like that system is being run with no respect at all for data protection- I really hope you're exaggerating/embelishing.

I don't need greater insight. I was hoping she would offer some insight into a how a child might feel in this situation, for the benefit of all those just saying iT wAs KiNd. What with her being such an excellent teacher and all.

YABU

• "Jesus. Get out more"
• "Maybe you do have something to hide as this really isn't a healthy response."
• "Poor teacher." X multiple
• "Is the heat getting to you?"
• "utter twat"
• "Maybe she intended to attack you with a samurai sword but decided against it 😳🙄

Get A Life"

• "paranoid"
• "Paranoid and ridiculous"
• "Report her to the police immediately!!!!!! I can see the headlines now “Teacher posts certificate through front door, family are devastated”"
• "we really don’t care about you as much as you might think we do."
• "Oh my goodness, another thread making me question my life choices being a teacher!" X multiple of this theme.
• "Why don’t you just dig a moat round your house, if someone passing your window literally felt invasive?"
• "OP has what my teenager would describe as ‘main character syndrome’"
• "Morons, morons everywhere"
• "Don’t open the door, shut the blinds and cower beneath the radiator."
• "Seriously, THIS is why no-one wants to be a teacher and why they're leaving in droves. Because parents constantly are looking out for a reason to kick them. But in this case, kick them when they were DOING A NICE THING!!"
• "Imagine you would be forced to move house. Totally outrageous" / "armed guard" × multiple
• "batshit"
• "But you are out in public ...so precious feelings could be hurt by being seen ...anyone anyone anyone could SEE you 👀👁👀 😱"

YANBU

• "bit strange"
• "bit uncomfortable"
• "bit annoyed"
• "bit invasive"
• "Yeah I think that’s weird."
• "I'm afraid it is. It was not a legitimate use of the data which had been provided, because there was no "need" for the visit."
• "I work in a school and it does seem unusual"
• "It can be both a GDPR breach and a thoughtless action towards the child. The 2 things aren't mutually exclusive and being able to look at a situation from multiple angles doesn't make someone over invested."
• "That was a very aggressive post"
• Few posts from teachers, a DSL and a headteacher saying YANBU.
• "Eurgh"
• "Not all superheroes wear capes"

Obviously can't condense every quote, but the language differences between YABU and YANBU are quite stark. One side appears much more aggressive and mocking (much, much earlier in the thread - which is significant) while simultaneously claiming that teachers are so sensitive they will leave if people say they found something to be a "bit intrusive" or it may be a (probably minor) legal breach.

What is the actual point of this? You went through the entire thread to produce this. For what purpose?
Sheer madness. (Am sure you will be able to place this comment in the appropriate group.!)

Judging by the posting of the language analysis- I think it might be.

Seems to have conveniently completely missed.

• quite right to be concerned, teachers are agents of the state
• bizarre parallel with Preston Davey murder
• if you don’t think this is a GDPR breach you don’t understand the training you’ve had
• good job you’re not a teacher any more

Among other things. Strange that.

It’s unusual for a teacher to do this. That’s it ‘unusual’. If the OP was genuinely concerned from an intrusion/data breach/child disappointment/any other reason perspective they’d raise it with the school. They haven’t. They clearly aren’t that concerned.

A very thoughtful thing to do. I hope your ds was pleased when you told him his kind teacher had brought it round.
Perhaps she knew she was going to be off the next day, medical appt, planned sick leave for a day procedure, funeral

Perhaps she has an interest in sociolinguistics.

You've been defending the teacher's choice to spend their time doing something unnecessary, so it's a bit rich to criticise a poster for doing the same. At least her post isn't unlawful.

Nope, what could I possibly gain from lying online to a bunch of strangers about my work's data recording system...?

From google:
Arbor is a leading Management Information System (MIS) used by over 12,500 schools and trusts across the UK. It is currently the most popular cloud-based school management software in the English state sector, holding the top market share of over 31%.

Looks like 12,500+ schools are breaking the law according to you.

Seriously?? What. Lovely person to do that for your child. What you gonna do?? Report them???
get a life

🤣 silly me.

Let's hope all those other schools are using the system correctly.

Each school defines their own data retention policy when using Arbor

https://support.arbor-education.com/hc/en-us/articles/360005458217-Managing-data-retention-for-your-MIS-data

However Arbor does helpfully point to the laws which stipulate 6 years of data retention.

https://support.arbor-education.com/hc/en-us/articles/31855825001885-Guidance-on-data-retention-for-schools-in-England-for-Scholarpack-and-Integris-bak-Migrations

You're not supposed to be retaining data forever!

Maybe everyone needs to contact arbor to request their information is removed as you have not authorised them to hold it beyond the stat requirement- maybe then that admin burden will encourage them to stop sharing our info with schools and teachers eho have no need for it

You wouldn’t be able to obtain her address but she can obtain yours,same way as she could obtain your phone number and email address.Why would she be interested in where you live and why do you need to ask on here? Your child probably got an award and they forgot about certificate.I personally would have left it until child was in school again but then maybe there would be a complaint about that? Maybe teacher lives locally and just thought it would be a nice thing to do 😊