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To worry about a GE but think it could be our route back to the EU 🤞🏻

126 replies

CurdinHenry · 23/06/2026 16:03

Surely surely cmon there's got to be a limit to how much poorer we want to get

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JHound · 23/06/2026 17:06

JoyousOpalLemur · 23/06/2026 16:12

If Brexit has been so bad for the economy, why are we the fastest growing economy in the G7?

a) Where did you read that?

b) How do we know that growth would not be ever greater had we remained.

CurdinHenry · 23/06/2026 17:08

GasPanic · 23/06/2026 17:04

Welcome to democracy.

I think your kids will have better lives, but I don't expect any thanks for it.

Better how? Name one single improvement.

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CurdinHenry · 23/06/2026 17:09

I despair at how small and unimaginative and unsuccessful people have dragged us all down. Because they feared foreigners? You're much more likely to have a foreign carer wiping your bum in old age now than when we were in the EU.

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Lemonsqueezer12 · 23/06/2026 17:10

BIossomtoes · 23/06/2026 17:03

Do you?

Even Burnham doesn't believe that otherwise he'd be going straight for mandate like Boris did.

Butt3rButt3r · 23/06/2026 17:11

GasPanic · 23/06/2026 17:03

They will want to rejoin right up until the cost of rejoining is made clear to them.

Then it will be a completely different issue. The EU doesn't want us and doesn't need us. Their eyes are on high growth emerging economies to the East to drive GDP through exports, not our well developed markets. The cost that they will demand for us rejoining will be punitive and will not be one that the electorate are willing to accept.

The UK is growing steadily relative to the G7 average and will probably grow faster over the next few years as the transition to trade outside the EU completes.

Our trade is refocusing on the more dynamic economies of the US and Asia-Pacific.

Meanwhile the engine of Europe, the German, Italian and French economies have structural issues that make some of our problems look manageable.

😂We need the EU. The US doesn’t need us or want us.The European Union (EU) remains the UK's largest trading partner, accounting for 41% of all UK exports and 50% of all UK imports.

Our exports to the US are dropping since the tariffs.

Butt3rButt3r · 23/06/2026 17:13

Vaxtable · 23/06/2026 17:04

Brexit was 10 years ago. Lots has happened since that’s affected us that has diidly squat to do with it

we need to get over it stop bringing up and get on with things. It’s happened

and those that think we should rejoin do you acts understand what that will mean? They WILL make an example of us. We will have to pay shedloads more and have less to do with policy making. And they will continue with batshit policies that most member states will ignore and we add stuff to to make it more complicated.

I’m not going to get over this

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cvg75npqkq4o

A cityscape of London's financial centre in London showing major bank skyscrapers.

Brexit cost 6% of UK economy, Bank of England company data suggests

Analysis showed how much the UK could have grown if it had not exited the EU.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cvg75npqkq4o

ConverselyAttired · 23/06/2026 17:14

Vaxtable · 23/06/2026 17:04

Brexit was 10 years ago. Lots has happened since that’s affected us that has diidly squat to do with it

we need to get over it stop bringing up and get on with things. It’s happened

and those that think we should rejoin do you acts understand what that will mean? They WILL make an example of us. We will have to pay shedloads more and have less to do with policy making. And they will continue with batshit policies that most member states will ignore and we add stuff to to make it more complicated.

I don't think it's the real issue either. Liz Truss's short-lived stint did more to make people poorer and she only lasted 5 minutes.

I voted remain and would like to rejoin, personally. But we've had loads of shite shovelled on us in a decade.

BIossomtoes · 23/06/2026 17:14

Lemonsqueezer12 · 23/06/2026 17:10

Even Burnham doesn't believe that otherwise he'd be going straight for mandate like Boris did.

It was from The Telegraph. He’d be an idiot to call an election on the basis of a poll now, wouldn’t he? It took Johnson six months.

MindThePause · 23/06/2026 17:15

Do the people of the EU get a say in this ?

🎶The freedom that you wanted back is yours for good, I hope you’re glad.🎶

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ConverselyAttired · 23/06/2026 17:16

MindThePause · 23/06/2026 17:15

Do the people of the EU get a say in this ?

🎶The freedom that you wanted back is yours for good, I hope you’re glad.🎶

16 million of us didn't want it.

Loopylalalou · 23/06/2026 17:17

I voted leave and I’d vote leave again.
Go to Brussels, or The Hague, or Strasbourg and you’ll see for yourself the epic waste of money around not only having the three locations, but the kerfuffle that goes with it. Do you know that when empty, ALL the lights remain on in Brussels?
Thats let alone their costly and largely unworkable policies.

Lemonsqueezer12 · 23/06/2026 17:18

BIossomtoes · 23/06/2026 17:14

It was from The Telegraph. He’d be an idiot to call an election on the basis of a poll now, wouldn’t he? It took Johnson six months.

He needs to time it right! It's just been reported that he is planning to remove the triple lock - which just like his benefit cuts it is the right thing to do, but will upset a lot of fractions - normally you do those things when you have four years for people to move on not a 2.5 years.

WolfinSheepsDress · 23/06/2026 17:18

Op which country do you want us to emulate in the EU and why do you want us back there when we are a G7 country and most EU countries can't reach that tier ?

Lemonsqueezer12 · 23/06/2026 17:19

MindThePause · 23/06/2026 17:15

Do the people of the EU get a say in this ?

🎶The freedom that you wanted back is yours for good, I hope you’re glad.🎶

The French need a referendum to accept us back - not sure I can see that happening.

APageInYourDiary · 23/06/2026 17:20

GasPanic · 23/06/2026 16:46

We won't go back in the EU ever. Part of the condition for rejoining would be membership of the EZ, which would in no way fly with the electorate.

The country does not want to be in the EU, and the EU doesn't need countries like the UK sitting on the periphery sniping all the time. Federalisation is hard enough without awkward people like us in the way.

What might happen is we might negotiate closer ties re trade.

I'm not sure it would make that much difference for the majority of voters if we did go back in the EU. A bit less hassle over visas/travel a couple of times per year maybe.

It is so so much more than that - catastrophic for trade and travel, and not just tourism. Did you see the recent figures for the creative arts and what Brexit has meant for them?!

BerryTwister · 23/06/2026 17:21

CoffeeCantata · 23/06/2026 16:38

I really hope we don't get a GE. We need a bit of steady steering.

I'm not thrilled with the prospect of Andy Burnham but if he must become PM, then just let's get it done with as little fuss as possible.

I'm guessing he won't be looking so smug in a month or two!

@CoffeeCantata I know what you mean about the smugness. He looks as if he thinks it'll be an easy job, and the whole country will love him like the people on Manchester did!

342524u · 23/06/2026 17:21

Chrysanthemum5 · 23/06/2026 16:59

Previously we had a veto and also special concessions. Those are gone so going back in wouldn’t be as people think, certainly there would be a requirement to adopt the euro at least.

I wish we had never left but we did and I don’t think they wanted us back!

Agree, that ship has sailed. It would be better if we hadn't left, but it would be worse if we re-joined.

Lemonsqueezer12 · 23/06/2026 17:21

We'd also have to find the £350m a week again. The one that we definitely didn't spend on the NHS despite NHS spending increasing 1.9bn a week since brexit.

ThreeWordUsername · 23/06/2026 17:23

Large swathes of the elecorate seem to think the answer is more Farage rather than reversing Brexit. Mind boggling imo but there you are!

CurdinHenry · 23/06/2026 17:23

WolfinSheepsDress · 23/06/2026 17:18

Op which country do you want us to emulate in the EU and why do you want us back there when we are a G7 country and most EU countries can't reach that tier ?

All of them in the sense of being connected to and part of the eu. Because the UK is in acute decline by all metrics and lacks the international goodwill or internal attributes to attenuate this alone. Because quality of life matters to me. Because I don't prefer ignorance and isolation.

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GasPanic · 23/06/2026 17:23

Butt3rButt3r · 23/06/2026 17:11

😂We need the EU. The US doesn’t need us or want us.The European Union (EU) remains the UK's largest trading partner, accounting for 41% of all UK exports and 50% of all UK imports.

Our exports to the US are dropping since the tariffs.

We don't need to be part of the EU though.

Yes, we should have a good trading relationship with the EU if possible. But throwing out our new opportunities that we have gained would be senseless.

The UK on its own can act more in the UKs interests than it can as a member of the EU. The EU as a trading bloc is actually quite protectionist. We can go back into that and get shackled to the less than dynamic French/Italian/German economies, or we can stay out and forge our own path with the ROW.

Being out of the EU is actually being more globalized, not less.

Butt3rButt3r · 23/06/2026 17:24

Lemonsqueezer12 · 23/06/2026 17:18

He needs to time it right! It's just been reported that he is planning to remove the triple lock - which just like his benefit cuts it is the right thing to do, but will upset a lot of fractions - normally you do those things when you have four years for people to move on not a 2.5 years.

He’d be absolutely bonkers to remove the triple lock. They’ve got rid of Keir because they want a chance to win the next election. Removing the triple lock(which isn’t the right thing to do) would make it game over in an instant.

APageInYourDiary · 23/06/2026 17:24

GasPanic · 23/06/2026 17:04

Welcome to democracy.

I think your kids will have better lives, but I don't expect any thanks for it.

You won’t get any thanks as absolutely nothing I’ve seen in the last 10 years has suggested my kids will have better lives, so thanks for fucking up their future 🙄

CurdinHenry · 23/06/2026 17:24

ThreeWordUsername · 23/06/2026 17:23

Large swathes of the elecorate seem to think the answer is more Farage rather than reversing Brexit. Mind boggling imo but there you are!

Ngl this thread is a worry. I am so glad I grew up before these people got their way.

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BIossomtoes · 23/06/2026 17:24

Lemonsqueezer12 · 23/06/2026 17:18

He needs to time it right! It's just been reported that he is planning to remove the triple lock - which just like his benefit cuts it is the right thing to do, but will upset a lot of fractions - normally you do those things when you have four years for people to move on not a 2.5 years.

Three years. Where was it reported? Any link by any chance or was it on X?

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