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AIBU to see this case as the real two tier policing in practice?

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Allisnotlost1 · 17/06/2026 18:35

To think this is an example of the real two tier policing:
https://www.dailymail.com/news/article-15907467/Former-detective-helped-smuggle-drugs-blades-prison-drones-escapes-jail-judge-heard-breastfeeding-youngest-four-children.html

Ex copper, woman at that, commits serious crime and funds a great lifestyle, when it comes to it she pisses off home and the men go to prison. Prisons that are awash with drugs by the way, because of shitbags like her.

So, IABU - two tier policing is either not a thing or is only about race

IANBU - two tier policing actually very often benefits white women and people in positions of power more than anyone else.

'Breastfeeding' ex-detective in prison drug drone plot escapes jail

Clare Davenport, 52, sobbed in the dock as a judge at Birmingham Crown Court said he would suspend her sentence so as not to deprive her young children of their mother.

https://www.dailymail.com/news/article-15907467/Former-detective-helped-smuggle-drugs-blades-prison-drones-escapes-jail-judge-heard-breastfeeding-youngest-four-children.html

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Yetanotherone12 · 17/06/2026 18:38

How is it two tier policing?

woman commits crime, police gather evidence, charge, bring case to court. Found guilty, gets sentenced- same as the men and anyone else.

it was the judge that handed down the sentence, not the police.

WaterWall22 · 17/06/2026 18:38

YABU. This is not even about policing, but courts.

Batties · 17/06/2026 18:38

Go away and read about the huge amount of men who commit sexual crimes against women and children who don’t receive a prison sentence and then come back to us.

Yetanotherone12 · 17/06/2026 18:41

Batties · 17/06/2026 18:38

Go away and read about the huge amount of men who commit sexual crimes against women and children who don’t receive a prison sentence and then come back to us.

Again though, while this is true it’s not policing, two tier or otherwise.

it is the CPS that makes the decision to charge, and the judge that gives the sentence.

the police have nothing to do with that part.

Darragon · 17/06/2026 18:46

That’s the courts not policing. Go back to the Daily Mail comments section OP you’ll find lots of men who share your misogyny. Curiously, most women don’t believe the law is unfairly stacked against the menz. Might be something to do with the fact that men commit more crimes and often get violent when they get caught. And talk their way out of DV charges. And still get access to their kids, that abused women have to facilitate. And get to pay £0 in CMS as they say they’re broke. And almost never get convicted for sexual crimes like rape. Hmm…

Allisnotlost1 · 17/06/2026 18:52

Such a lot of sympathy for a bent cop! Tbh I’m less concerned that she’s a woman and more so that she’s bent. Plenty of examples of police/prison officers who get lesser sentences despite abusing their position.

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Batties · 17/06/2026 18:55

Allisnotlost1 · 17/06/2026 18:52

Such a lot of sympathy for a bent cop! Tbh I’m less concerned that she’s a woman and more so that she’s bent. Plenty of examples of police/prison officers who get lesser sentences despite abusing their position.

If you’re not concerned about her being a woman, why did you right a whole post about exactly that?

And as pp said, this is nothing to do with policing.

DontBuyAnotherBook · 17/06/2026 18:56

It is well known women do get more lenient prison sentences even if they do the same crime.

GeneralPeter · 17/06/2026 18:57

Allisnotlost1 · 17/06/2026 18:52

Such a lot of sympathy for a bent cop! Tbh I’m less concerned that she’s a woman and more so that she’s bent. Plenty of examples of police/prison officers who get lesser sentences despite abusing their position.

Not sympathy. You could have asked if this was an example of two-tier baking or two-tier teaching or two-tier athletics and the same point would hav been made to you.

(And yes I think there is multi-tier policing. But this is a sentencing matter unless you know more than is being reported).

User05677229 · 17/06/2026 18:59

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Saturnalio · 17/06/2026 19:00

Allisnotlost1 · 17/06/2026 18:52

Such a lot of sympathy for a bent cop! Tbh I’m less concerned that she’s a woman and more so that she’s bent. Plenty of examples of police/prison officers who get lesser sentences despite abusing their position.

So many are bent I don't think people would believe what goes on

Duvetdayneeded · 17/06/2026 19:04

You’re missing the point completely.

TheHateUGive · 17/06/2026 19:06

Well being a woman is part of the mitigating circumstances they listed along with being a racial minority etc. So yeah, it is part if two tier policing.

TheHateUGive · 17/06/2026 19:07

The list of individuals who should have the benefit of a pre-sentence report includes anyone who belongs to one of the following cohorts:

at risk of first custodial sentence and/or at risk of a custodial sentence of 2 years or less (after taking into account any reduction for guilty plea)
a young adult (typically 18-25 years)
female
from an ethnic minority, cultural minority, and/or faith minority community
pregnant or post-natal
sole or primary carer for dependent relatives

Batties · 17/06/2026 19:09

TheHateUGive · 17/06/2026 19:06

Well being a woman is part of the mitigating circumstances they listed along with being a racial minority etc. So yeah, it is part if two tier policing.

That’s the court, not policing.

MaCheCazzo · 17/06/2026 19:10

I'm not convinced that you have the vaguest idea what so-called 'two tier policing' actually is OP.
A little research first might help others take you seriously.

TheHateUGive · 17/06/2026 19:11

Batties · 17/06/2026 19:09

That’s the court, not policing.

The courts ultimately police society. The police themselves just suggest to them who should be policed.

CornishDaughteroftheDawn · 17/06/2026 19:11

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Quite. And the person that went to prison for a tweet was a woman.

OP is sounding rather desperate imo.

Batties · 17/06/2026 19:12

TheHateUGive · 17/06/2026 19:11

The courts ultimately police society. The police themselves just suggest to them who should be policed.

Nope

TheHateUGive · 17/06/2026 19:14

Batties · 17/06/2026 19:12

Nope

Yeeeeeepppp

Batties · 17/06/2026 19:15

TheHateUGive · 17/06/2026 19:14

Yeeeeeepppp

okay.

Allisnotlost1 · 17/06/2026 19:15

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How is that different? Two non-police men got massively harsher sentences than the female police officer who was part of the conspiracy? Even accounting for her lesser role, she was let off lightly by any standard.

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TheHateUGive · 17/06/2026 19:18

CornishDaughteroftheDawn · 17/06/2026 19:11

Quite. And the person that went to prison for a tweet was a woman.

OP is sounding rather desperate imo.

Can you confirm what cases you're talking about here?

Allisnotlost1 · 17/06/2026 19:19

TheHateUGive · 17/06/2026 19:07

The list of individuals who should have the benefit of a pre-sentence report includes anyone who belongs to one of the following cohorts:

at risk of first custodial sentence and/or at risk of a custodial sentence of 2 years or less (after taking into account any reduction for guilty plea)
a young adult (typically 18-25 years)
female
from an ethnic minority, cultural minority, and/or faith minority community
pregnant or post-natal
sole or primary carer for dependent relatives

For sure, but it doesn’t mention ex police. Surely those who are in positions of enforcing the law should be treated more harshly when they break it. After all, the rest of us are treated more harshly if we disobey or harm them.

OP posts:
TheHateUGive · 17/06/2026 19:20

Allisnotlost1 · 17/06/2026 19:19

For sure, but it doesn’t mention ex police. Surely those who are in positions of enforcing the law should be treated more harshly when they break it. After all, the rest of us are treated more harshly if we disobey or harm them.

She was female and presumably postnatal and a primary carer. So mitigating factors apply.

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