Trooping the colour booing

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AIBU to think this was well deserved?

Kate can glower at people as much as she wants but the monarchy is a rotten institution and people are getting more and more annoyed by it

I don’t think the youngsters will keep them around

@JuliettaCaeser how will they be removed?
Referendum? Revolution? Or will the government remove them?
The state owns a lot of properties and their contents, but the RF also have plenty of their own money and possessions. Would those be confiscated?

Hopefully it will, even though it may take time.

Who even cares enough to turn up and watch because they like them so much never mind going all that way just to boo?

Well, I guess that one way of viewing it, is as extremely important feedback.

As Queen Victoria, and Queen Elizabeth understood, the monarchy exists in its current state only at the behest and good will of the people.

They've been given the feedback that okay, lots of people like the expensive soap opera, but an increasingly vocal minority dislikes it sufficiently to get off their chuffs and go and protest against the institution, at the very limited forums for direct feedback available to them.

All three children are old enough to be involved in a discussion (age appropriate of course), about the privileged position they enjoy, why they enjoy it, and why it could be jeopardised if it became sufficiently unpopular.

If they don't wish their children to be potentially exposed to a negative reception of the monarchy in the future, they might want to withdraw their children from such events. Of course, then they'd miss out on the 'cute wee kiddies' premium goodwill payout, and people might feel freer to express their anti-monarchy sentiments at them. . .

Surprised you can hear it with your head so firmly up the arses of people that couldn't give a flying fuck about you

I don’t know. But my teens and their friends are supremely indifferent. Does anyone know any royalist under 20?! Things can change if the will is there.

I think public demonstrations really rattle them. Charles took decisive action on Andrew when people shouted at him about it on a walkabout. They are sensitive about it as they know it’s all indefensible really and they are onto a very good thing.

Yes, I remember this. One man just said something polite like "What did you know about Andrew, sir?" and shortly afterwards Andrew lost his large house, sub-letting cottages, honours, titles, etc.

JuliettaCaeser · Today 14:28
I don’t know. But my teens and their friends are supremely indifferent. Does anyone know any royalist under 20?! Things can change if the will is there

Ok, so how do your teens and their friends think they should be removed?

They don’t care that’s the point. There’s little interest in them so eventually the politicians are likely to question the point of their funding and constitutional power.

Guess the politicians could vote in a bill de funding them and reclaiming duchy of Cornwall etc.

This kind of thread makes me roll my eyes. When I think of the problems facing the UK and the world at the moment...and some people are fussing over the royals and the T of the C.

Like the RF or hate them, they are not the problem.

And as for Trooping the Colour - it's just incredible by any standards as entertainment and as a spectacle. It's watched across the world and it's unique, I should think. I love it - I know musicians who've been in it and I cannot fathom how they do what they do - just phenomenal.

Whatever bit of my taxes goes to pay for the monarchy I think it's worth it for T of the C alone.

I think most people like them and they bring in 1.7billion to the UK economy. What are these complainers add, they are probably unemployed pink haired toss pots.

What you "think" (if you can call it thinking) is irrelevant.

First, the £1.7 billion figure gets repeated endlessly, but it's gross economic activity, not a cheque written to the Treasury. The UK tourism industry is worth hundreds of billions. Tourists come for history, architecture, museums, culture and heritage sites. France attracts more tourists than Britain without a monarchy at all.

Second, "they bring in money" doesn't answer the criticism being made. Plenty of things generate revenue. That doesn't make them immune from scrutiny. If your entire defence boils down to "it makes money", you've abandoned the actual argument.

Third, dismissing everyone who disagrees with you as "unemployed pink-haired tosspots" is usually a sign that you've run out of facts. Plenty of republicans are taxpayers, professionals, business owners and employers. Inventing a cartoon version of your opponents doesn't strengthen your case; it advertises the weakness of it.

So far you've offered a dubious headline figure, a non-sequitur and an insult.

That's not an argument. That's a tantrum.

Beautifully put 👏👏

Charles and Camilla should never have taken the throne, conceited idiots. They have little support from anyone younger than the pensioners. They have damaged the monarchy.
Should have gone straight to Will and Kate as a more popular couple and for a much longer innings.

I don't understand where this £1.7 billion figure comes from or how it is calculated? In my experience visitors from other countries latch on to certain symbols of a country and want to see those things. The Eiffel Tower is a perfect example - nothing to do with Royals.

An influential icon generating enormous amounts of merchandise is Hello Kitty. Despite all appearances to the contrary she is a British girl!

That’s your view, and you’re entitled to it. Others have a different view. My view, of it being an anachronism, was reinforced by reading the excellent books written by Norman Baker and Andrew Lownie

That’s not how the monarchy operates. It’s the first born that inherits - not who is nicest/best looking/most popular or even best qualified.

you either accept it as a whole and everything that entails or you don’t -there is no pick or choose option.

Exactly. Thats literally the point of a monarchy. You get whoever’s next in line. It’s one of the reasons I dont endorse it. We could very easily have ended up with a repellent king Andrew and queen fergie and there would be nothing we could do about it 🤮.

Also listened to Andrew Lownies book. Nail
in coffin for me.

They really really aren’t.

Our family is far better than them in every way. Yours too possibly.

They really aren’t. There is a single sex trafficker, tax dodger, serial philanderer, adulterer, marriage wrecker, environmental hypocrite, coverer for a criminal, lazy, entitled, feckless, pompous twat in my entire family.

They have every right to 'spoil' it given that they like the rest of us have no choice but to pay for this and no means available to oppose the monarchy other than through public protest.