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Trooping the colour booing

311 replies

theresalighttofindyou · Yesterday 10:54

AIBU to think this was well deserved?

Kate can glower at people as much as she wants but the monarchy is a rotten institution and people are getting more and more annoyed by it

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BrownTroutBluesAgain · Yesterday 21:22

Sardaukar · Yesterday 21:19

Oh, that's alright then. It's just because of 'reasons' is it? You're easily satisfied...

RTT
i doubt Mulberry is satisfied
you’ve read that the wrong way

countrylife00 · Yesterday 21:25

Giantmarshmallowbum · Yesterday 20:49

Not IHT - he’d have lost 40% from his mother’s fortune, which would also have been much reduced had her DF been taxed.

The reason being. The Royal Assets need to be protected for future generations..
Who wants to pay inheritance tax? I don’t.

BrownTroutBluesAgain · Yesterday 21:31

Isitevensummer · Yesterday 21:09

Of note currently the majority want the monarchy. So 🤷‍♀️
and as yet no one’s proved that it wouldn’t lose the country money
So
Another loss maker

Are you sure about that? Listen to the statistics of different age groups - young people overwhelmingly see the RF as irrelevant. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-66707923

As he’s not dead yet IHT is irrelevant to your comment

Ha Ha - good joke. IHT on his mothers estate. As you or I would have to pay if it was us who got a wodge of money.

When we die, our wills are public documents. Do all the royalists on here know why the RF wills are not disclosed? Because in 1910 Prince Francis of Teck, the younger brother of Queen Mary, left a behest to his mistress and it would have caused a scandal if it were known. So a new law was made and it has served the Royals well ever since.

I am indeed sure if that because my post clearly said
currently
Im not psychic but there’s no doubt the current younger age groups aren’t keen on the RF

( Approximately 38% to 52% of young adults (aged 18–24) in the UK)

IHT is a bill on the deceased estate not on those who inherit
So the Queens estate didn’t pay IHT
The King isn’t dead yet. So once again my comment was accurate

Interesting bit about the RF mistress and wills though 😆

Sardaukar · Yesterday 21:37

BrownTroutBluesAgain · Yesterday 21:22

RTT
i doubt Mulberry is satisfied
you’ve read that the wrong way

Maybe so. Charles is an absurd, pompous, spoiled buffoon.

Giantmarshmallowbum · Yesterday 21:40

BrownTroutBluesAgain · Yesterday 21:01

Yes but your previous post related to income tax if you read back over it

As he’s not dead yet IHT is irrelevant to your comment

Giantmarshmallowbum · Today 19:43
Yes and he’d have half as much if he got taxed like the rest of us!
MrSchubertWhiskers ·Today 19:35
Charles is a billionaire through his private wealth, not the Crown Estate.

No it didn’t whether it read like that or not, but I clearly wasn’t specific enough. He would have half as much if his mothers estate paid IHT

Giantmarshmallowbum · Yesterday 21:42

countrylife00 · Yesterday 21:25

The reason being. The Royal Assets need to be protected for future generations..
Who wants to pay inheritance tax? I don’t.

Yes indeed, but why do the rest of us not get to protect our estates. My family home will need to be sold to pay

BrownTroutBluesAgain · Yesterday 21:44

Giantmarshmallowbum · Yesterday 21:42

Yes indeed, but why do the rest of us not get to protect our estates. My family home will need to be sold to pay

Ask Labour 🤷‍♀️

OonaStubbs · Yesterday 21:45

IneedAniffler · Yesterday 21:00

What a narrow minded view.

They don't hate everything that is British.

Just the overwhelmingly cunty bits.

I think they need to take a look in the mirror.

Giantmarshmallowbum · Yesterday 21:48

BrownTroutBluesAgain · Yesterday 21:44

Ask Labour 🤷‍♀️

Well labour would be closer to abolishing the royals than the other lot!

They get a lot of breaks because they made the rules, just like old trusts, no one can do that now.

katedan · Yesterday 21:50

I dont think the children should be on parade and being driven around in carriges, they would then not be expised to it. Say what you like for Harry but he has protected his children from this patomime.

ERthree · Yesterday 21:51

IneedAniffler · Yesterday 12:35

I'm sure the kids don't give a flying fuck and probably laugh about it over their banquet that evening, ripping the shit out of the disgusting peasants who dare look upon them.

You sound like a 14 year old.

Isitevensummer · Yesterday 21:55

IHT is a bill on the deceased estate not on those who inherit
So the Queens estate didn’t pay IHT
The King isn’t dead yet. So once again my comment was accurate

The reason that there is no need to pay IHT here is due to the exemption introduced in 1993 by the Major government. I would guess that the way things are passed down takes full advantage of this, but we will never know, since the wills are secret. It is also worth noting that the Sovereign to Sovereign rule was applied on the Queen Mothers estate, even though she was not the Sovereign. Its a nice little game of protect the wealth at all cost and hide to amount from the public and bend the rules as much as you can - or lobby the government to change the law in your favour.

Giantmarshmallowbum · Yesterday 22:02

BrownTroutBluesAgain · Yesterday 21:31

I am indeed sure if that because my post clearly said
currently
Im not psychic but there’s no doubt the current younger age groups aren’t keen on the RF

( Approximately 38% to 52% of young adults (aged 18–24) in the UK)

IHT is a bill on the deceased estate not on those who inherit
So the Queens estate didn’t pay IHT
The King isn’t dead yet. So once again my comment was accurate

Interesting bit about the RF mistress and wills though 😆

Edited

You know what I meant, whomever pays, there wouldn’t be as much now if it had 40% removed every generation.

They get tax breaks that rest of us don’t. I can’t see any divine right to that.

MulberryBrandy · Yesterday 22:07

Giantmarshmallowbum · Yesterday 21:48

Well labour would be closer to abolishing the royals than the other lot!

They get a lot of breaks because they made the rules, just like old trusts, no one can do that now.

Charles had an exemption arranged by the Conservative PM, John Major.

Petrolitis · Yesterday 22:12

theresalighttofindyou · Yesterday 10:54

AIBU to think this was well deserved?

Kate can glower at people as much as she wants but the monarchy is a rotten institution and people are getting more and more annoyed by it

What a horrible person you must be to characterise a woman annoyed at her children being verbally abused as glowering.

She had every right to be peeved at spiteful people upsetting kids.

And say you get rid of the monarchy, you just end up with the likes of Trump and the Kardashians.

Giantmarshmallowbum · Yesterday 22:14

MulberryBrandy · Yesterday 22:07

Charles had an exemption arranged by the Conservative PM, John Major.

Exactly

BrownTroutBluesAgain · Yesterday 22:15

Isitevensummer · Yesterday 21:55

IHT is a bill on the deceased estate not on those who inherit
So the Queens estate didn’t pay IHT
The King isn’t dead yet. So once again my comment was accurate

The reason that there is no need to pay IHT here is due to the exemption introduced in 1993 by the Major government. I would guess that the way things are passed down takes full advantage of this, but we will never know, since the wills are secret. It is also worth noting that the Sovereign to Sovereign rule was applied on the Queen Mothers estate, even though she was not the Sovereign. Its a nice little game of protect the wealth at all cost and hide to amount from the public and bend the rules as much as you can - or lobby the government to change the law in your favour.

Even pre Major
when they were introduced in the 17th century and since ( I think to pay for wars more than likely ) the RF never paid any sort of capital transfer taxes so it certainly wasn’t a new concept at all introduced by Major ( just in case snyone is attempting a dig here at a particular political party )

The reason given in Majors day was

‘the reigning monarch is legally exempt from paying Inheritance Tax (IHT) on both Crown and private estates to avoid wealth erosion over generations. Other family members are subject to IHT,’

There wasn’t any bending of the rules. The Government of the time felt the RF status in the world would be diminished over time if they didn’t have the means to present a certain royal image.
I recall the debates at the time

Setting up trusts of course is one way to avoid IHT for everyone
or just stop taxing death

SquirrelGG · Yesterday 22:21

countrylife00 · Yesterday 20:09

I know someone who stands there booing.
She is also part of the Stop Oil Brigade and Palestine Action Group… and could Moan for England. If you were next to her at a party you would be getting the next taxi home.

Yep, people who boo anyone really aren't worthy of being indulged. They tend to be very boring people in my experience, with nary a brain cell between them.

BrownTroutBluesAgain · Yesterday 22:23

MulberryBrandy · Yesterday 22:07

Charles had an exemption arranged by the Conservative PM, John Major.

The RF were always exempt on taxes charged at death as far back as the 17th century

Its really not as party specific as you may think

Giantmarshmallowbum · Yesterday 22:23

BrownTroutBluesAgain · Yesterday 22:15

Even pre Major
when they were introduced in the 17th century and since ( I think to pay for wars more than likely ) the RF never paid any sort of capital transfer taxes so it certainly wasn’t a new concept at all introduced by Major ( just in case snyone is attempting a dig here at a particular political party )

The reason given in Majors day was

‘the reigning monarch is legally exempt from paying Inheritance Tax (IHT) on both Crown and private estates to avoid wealth erosion over generations. Other family members are subject to IHT,’

There wasn’t any bending of the rules. The Government of the time felt the RF status in the world would be diminished over time if they didn’t have the means to present a certain royal image.
I recall the debates at the time

Setting up trusts of course is one way to avoid IHT for everyone
or just stop taxing death

Edited

Trust are now taxed in a way they never were, so really they mitigate very little.

MulberryBrandy · Yesterday 22:25

BrownTroutBluesAgain · Yesterday 22:23

The RF were always exempt on taxes charged at death as far back as the 17th century

Its really not as party specific as you may think

BrownTroutBluesAgain · Today 21:44
Ask Labour 🤷‍♀️

BrownTroutBluesAgain · Yesterday 22:26

SquirrelGG · Yesterday 22:21

Yep, people who boo anyone really aren't worthy of being indulged. They tend to be very boring people in my experience, with nary a brain cell between them.

Perhaps a lot of pent up anger and in this case resentment
but many demonstrations are backed up by a lot of passion

I would happily boo the fox hunting brigade for example

BrownTroutBluesAgain · Yesterday 22:30

Giantmarshmallowbum · Yesterday 22:23

Trust are now taxed in a way they never were, so really they mitigate very little.

Agree they do have ongoing tax charges which you need to pay
much the same as declaring cgtax year on year

No IHT is better ….for anyone that is

TallSturdyGirls · Yesterday 22:31

ERthree · Yesterday 11:39

Would you accept people shouting abuse at your children? Why should she then ?

I wouldn't. But I wouldn't ever subject my children to that sort of exposure. I also would never send them to boarding school. Because I believe it will damage them.
Anyone looking at the RF must see how messed up they all are. Maybe its time to break the cycle of abuse, neglect and exposure.

SquirrelGG · Yesterday 22:32

BrownTroutBluesAgain · Yesterday 22:26

Perhaps a lot of pent up anger and in this case resentment
but many demonstrations are backed up by a lot of passion

I would happily boo the fox hunting brigade for example

You could boo all you like, what do you think it would actually achieve? I think you will find the answer is - nothing.