Today in Brighton the facsists turned up. Brighton barely let them out of the station. Well done Brighton !

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No love, the far left are Communists. Fascists are the far right.

No, @Datgal has included us all in the definition of fascist now - even the Home Secretary and Iranian refugees trying to escape the IRGC. Do keep up.

You say that as if it's something to be proud of being a commie in the 21st century 😆

Yes. Zack Polanski - a very popular man in Brighton was hugely supportive of that sort of violent protest.

The trans activist protests, also big in Brighton, get pretty violent against women as well. It’s almost like they think it is fine to be violent if they agree with the political views perpetrators.

And there are plenty of people who hold the same views as me who absolutely would never, ever do what those rioters did in Belfast.

You just lump everyone who objects to unlimited asylum seekers into the same category as those rioters which is why we currently have a big problem in this country.

Many heroes of the left, like Zack Polanski for example are extremely supportive of violent protest where women get injured if they agree with the politics of the violent protestors.

I think pp was pointing out the hypocrisy.

Even on this thread you can see similar. Women are to blame. Why on earth would we be

Rather telling that the poster didn't "understand " it

Is that a similar brush that is being used to tar everyone with concerns about immigration as ‘far right fascists’?

There is exactly one circumstance in which fascists care about the wellbeing of women: when an immigrant has attacked one. The rest of the time they themselves are the attackers.

In principle, I am for welcoming refugees, but not if there is no public or institutional will for preventing antisocial behaviour.

How common is Zelda's attitude? Are groups of men being left to harass and assault women because they are asylum seekers?

I don't support violent protest of any kind so there is no hypocrisy from me. Therefore, the comment still makes no sense in response to my post.

again, I have called no-one a far right facist.

We do have mass immigration. The fact that the net migration is now slightly lower on previous years still means that lots more people are entering the country per year than leaving and the cumulative total is many millions.

We currently have too little to staff hospitals and to pay the whopping great fees that overseas students put into the university system to keep it alive.

Evidence please - we regularly hear reports that British medical students are struggling to find work or placements. We have 5% unemployed - we are not short of workers.

Student visa abuse is likely to be costing the country more than the income gained by scalping overseas students for outrageous fees for substandard degree courses.

Then there are the destructive political issues in universities that are so bad that some countries like UAE won’t allow their students to come here for fear of radicalisation.

I am in a refugee welcoming area and we have actually welcomed them, rather than seeing them as the enemy.

Making such ill informed blanket statements about refugees is part of the problem. Some if these men are extremely violent criminals. Some are known terrorists, some are non EU citizens on the run from justice for crimes committed in other EU countries. Some are Iranian terrorists trying to get at other Iranian refugees to attack them.

We need to have proper conversations without being called racist or fascist, not just these facile dismissals for virtue signalling purposes.

I suspect because it in the main effects poorer areas it doesnt matter because the one group leftys really hate is the white working classes.

Yes, Canary Wharf is in London (I’m based in Greater London), who take 15% of all asylum seekers in the UK. Feels like we are treading old ground here, London makes up 0.65% of the UK geographically speaking and demonstrably does more than its fair share of everything. We also collect the most tax, that we redistribute to vastly poorer UK areas. Where are you based in and we can drill into the data? Sounds like you are somewhere that is economically challenged.

Does it? Sounds like you are not very good at drawing conclusions. I’m in London.

I’m all for Brighton and others on thread picking up the extra asylum accommodation as they are very keen. I don’t see the issue, everyone wins.

So do you agree that datgal was wrong to call me a fascist?

She asked a question about immigration. She was entitled to ask that. His reaction should have been to answer in a respectful way. He lost the election because many people wanted an answer to that and thought he had been disrespectful when the question was reasonable. Just as many questions posed to politicians are.
Blair and Brown thought that small numbers of people would arrive in the UK from the A8 countries. They could have placed limits on what A8 immigrants were eligible to have from the state, for example, no access to social housing for a period,but chose not to do so. They came up with the ridiculous workers registration scheme which was used to prove eligibility for social housing. It was a stupid hare brained scheme cobbled together in haste after the event. Brown admitted he didn't think over 1,000,000 would arrive in the UK from the A8 countries. It was a dog's breakfast of stupidity. I had to deal with people applying for social housing and the whole thing was a headache. How was I supposed to find out if a person owned a property in Poland for example? The answer was that I couldn't. It's not bigoted to worry about the effect of huge numbers of people arriving in a country. Particularly when the government is useless.

Well then you know that London is perfectly capable of placing the numbers we already have. Brighton should definitely take more, but I can also see why economically it makes sense to place Asylum Seekers in more affordable areas, I’ve never found Canary Wharf to be particularly cheap, have you?

Will you take a large share of the convicted rioters in return?

Or welcome more of those anti immigration marches in your neighbourhood?

I am left wing and I can't stand Polanski. As for the sledgehammer guy, he can rot in jail.

Eta: I am making a small bet with myself about a particular poster.

I must say, the standard of ‘argument’ on the ‘pro unlimited immigration’ side is low even by their normal standards.

They’ve just resorted to name calling - fascist, knuckle draggers, bigots etc - the only popular one missing is ‘flag shaggers’

I guess is an acknowledgment they have no arguments.

Did you ask the same during the BLM riots and ongoing Palestinian marches?

No it’s not cheap, that’s what I’m saying. CW does accommodate even with the cost, so it’s not an excuse for Brighton.

And no I don’t think people in more run down areas should do it, it makes sense to use the social welcome from Brighton. There would also be no backlash when something happens. It’s a win all round.