Today in Brighton the facsists turned up. Brighton barely let them out of the station. Well done Brighton !

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I want to live there

Lets not import it then

So is it your opinion that the posters here who point out the negative aspects of taking in asylum seekers are fascists? Yes or no is fine.

Would you prefer there was no debate? Here we all are having a civilised debate but I get the impression you believe this should not be permitted.

The localities that can best take the strain would be the better off neighbourhoods. But when it comes to dispersal into HMOs and social housing it's the poorer localities where authorities house them, because those places are cheaper.

And there lies the problem. People who aren't affected by asylum housing policies crowing about how we need to be welcoming. Less well off people in cheaper neighbourhoods taking the strain.

This is a recipe for social unrest. Which is what we're seeing now.

In addition to this I don’t think any system can use people as a proxy vetting system.

Im not sure i follow you. I do 'deal with it', don't I? I've already said there is a hotel in my town.
I went on to say that whether I'd actually vote to have it there, would depend on whether I thought the area could cope. As it is, so far so good, so I wouldn't see a reason to not have it there.
If I lived in an area where we couldn't cope and i thought there were better alternatives, I'd vote no. Because it's not an emotionally led decision, it's one of pragmatism.
No party had been able to prevent the arrival of asylum seekers. Even Reform have admitted defeat, promising only to build 'future accommodation' for them in non Reform councils.
So all the bluster about what should be, doesn't change what is. They are here and need housing somewhere. That should be in the place that causes the least harm. If that's my town, fair enough.

Yes, I understand that's what's happening and agree.

Countries do stop what we have. And no one would go back to deaths at sea.

No mostly the left do not want a debate. All immigration is good. All immigrants have net contribution to the treasury. All asylum are genuine. All who question this are bad far right fascists. Do not question this.

I spent some time working away at the hotel Rhiannon Whyte worked at and way before it was used to house asylum seekers. I know the area well and how the hotel is based with nothing to do unless you've got a car. Rhiannon didn't deserve what happened to her. She had a young child so forgive me if I don't get as lovey dovey on this matter. Great letter by the way @mrshoho

You are doing your cause no favours with posts like these.

Yes it’s not right that someone bears the brunt. The system has no checks, Rhiannon can’t be who provides that check with her life. No one can.

Yes, the places that cause the least harm. With the lowest housing costs when it comes to dispersal. Expect trouble.

Yes, I can see why some people impacted in this way would protest. Where asylum seekers are housed does need review. However, there's a world away from that moderate and sensible stance to the rhetoric spouted by the far right, who are weaponising peoples concerns, with increasingly aggressive stances that blur justifiable concern with racism, division and violence.
I think most people are up for a conversation, but the rioting and ranting closes it down, the moderates are alienated by the racists and the far right are left shouting to each other while the rest of us weigh up if we're more scared of immigrants than we are of them. And often come to the conclusion you don't want us to.

When doing some other fact checking the other day, I stumbled across the nationalities of gang rape suspects (charged, in the court pipeline). Apparently men of British origin only account for 17.5% of the 7677 total suspects (2010-2018). Which is interesting. If it was that bad then, it would also be interesting to have some more recent figures.

Noteable countries of origin were in Eastern Europe (possibly because pre Boriswave, most immigration came from the EU.) plus over representation from Nigeria, Somalia and Ghana compared to the total within the population.

Sweden, France and Australia are also over represented. Sweden and France were much earlier than us with high levels of non EU migration so it would be useful to know if these perpetrators had recently acquired citizenship or not. We know we have received asylum applications from non EU men on the run for serious crimes committed in the EU.

That makes 82.5% of gang rapes carried out by men not registered as UK citizens. Given the number of gang rapes you can find on a quick google search by British citizens of foreign origin, it would be really interesting to know what proportion are by British origin men or not. But the authorities refuse to gather that data for reasons so I guess we’ll never know.

Note.
*We don’t know the exact origin of 75% of the total are from as they are marked as ‘unknown’ but given that UK police and the CPS have full access to British perpetrators records, it would be highly unlikely for them to be British citizens.

www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/gang_rape_statistics

Thing is though we know there are going to be many more Rhiannons and we are powerless. It's the worst time in many of our histories because there's no leadership in the country. The Tories don't get off scott free either.

What is the relevance of what her job was, surely if she was stabbed walking home from it, she could have been cleaning the local hospice?

I think there are a core group of professional protesters who go around to every demonstration wherever it is and no matter what it is about, Just Stop Oil, immigration or anything else. They just love causing chaos. They seem to know where every protest will be and get there to cause trouble.

I think there are a core group of professional protesters who go around to every demonstration wherever it is and no matter what it is about, Just Stop Oil, immigration or anything else. They just love causing chaos. They seem to know where every protest will be and get there to cause trouble.

What relevance is her job when she worked at the same place the killer lived?

Do you know what 'far right' means?

Do you know which posters vote for Reform? How do you know that - do tell!

A list will do actually. Thanks

Most don't have a job

No matter how much people say it’s lovely and Brighton and co welcome it there’s no way most will accept being used as Rhiannon was.

Completely agree. But how did reform and Tommy and others gain so much traction? It was because we had a culture of no debate on the matter. For years any dissenters were labelled racists. People have not been listened to. The mainstream parties are now openly discussing but this really wasn't the case for a long time.

Yes. The German data shows similar too. And also shows by just how much gang rapes have risen, since mass immigration started. As if it's positively correlated. Funny that.

Because the migrant that stabbed her lived at the hotel she worked at. If it hadn’t became a migrant hotel she’d likely still be alive, he followed her hone