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to be utterly sick of protests, marches, rallies, and riots

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NameChangeMay2026 · Today 01:47

What happened today in Belfast was dreadful. Of course it was.

When Sarah Everard died, there were marches. But a day before she died, an Indian woman Sarah's age was knifed to death in the street in Leicestershire. It was an "honour" killing, I think.

Where was HER lantern on the doorstep of Downing Street? Where was HER march?

My point is, dreadful things happen every day and I am so sick and tired of news items sparking so much public rowdiness. It used to be that the media could report on current events without starting a riot. I know that we have always had riots, but they were the occasional one. And because they were not common, they helped effect change. They were a desperate measure reserved for when nothing else had helped.

Now, together with marches, rallies, and protests, society is constantly disrupted, and I am so, so sick of it. I live in a major city and I can't go anywhere without checking what march, rally, protest, or riot is happening, especially at the weekends. And they are so common that they don't help effect change anymore.

The riots are terrible. Thousands and thousands of pounds' worth of lost property in fires, injured bystanders, police calld away from other duties to attend them. And there are "professional" rabble-rousers who travel to marches, protests, and riots. It's not because they're passionate about a cause. They're just passionate about causing trouble.

I travel for work to major American cities and it's even worse over there. Another day, another riot/protest/march/rally.

They have become a feature of today's society, and I wish they would just stop.

Edit: I actually stay in more because of them. I don't go out of my hotel as much when staying in America, and I don't go to the city centre where I live as much. It's so bad when regular people are put off from walking around city centres because of all these annoying dickheads.

I think it is worse in America, and I'm tired of feeling scared to go out when there, in case I run into an uncontrolled crowd - where the police have guns, and the protestors might, depending on the state.

The burning buildings in Belfast are a disgrace. It's not the owners' fault that this happened.

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ijustwanttoworkout · Today 06:50

Jellybunny98 · Today 06:49

Ah, so you can admit yourself that contrary to your own point, people do very much still care when it’s crimes committed by white men. Thanks for making that so easy😊

Actually, if you learned to read beyond a year one level, you’d see the point I made is Farage et al and his little followers didn’t care. They didn’t go out rioting in the streets when these events happened, because they were committed by white men.

Thanks for proving my point re it being the uneducated in this country that do this though!

OneFunBrickNewt · Today 06:50

Meadowfinch · Today 02:08

People are angry at things that are happening every day. The protests are their way of telling politicians to get off their backsides and make the necessary changes. Or would you rather everyone was quiet and obedient, and people continued to be abused daily while the authority looked the other way and pretended it wasn't happening?
Of course building and property damage is not good, protest should be peaceful, but protest needs to happen when things are not right.

Without protest, women wouldn't have the vote, grooming gangs would still be an open secret and the Equalities Act wouldn't exist.

I'd much rather a bunch of racists didn't burn stuff, throw things at police, punch police horses and stirr up racial hatred each time there was a terrible crime committed by someone, British or not, with black or brown skin, whilst ignoring equivalent horrible crimes committed by British people.

NameChangeMay2026 · Today 06:50

askmenow · Today 02:46

We need to DRIVE this Government OUT, that's why we should take to the streets.
We are fed up to the back teeth of feeling poorer.

Unless this Government gets a grip of the economy there will be civil unrest. People can only take so much. Governments can only tax so much until the economy collapses.
No country has ever taxed its way to prosperity!

We need GROWTH, jobs, lower youth unemployment and less benefits paid out.

We now have the highest youth unemployment in Europe and why.... because Rachel Thieves lowered the rate at which employers have to start paying NI from £12k to £5k. All those little jobs.....gone.

Britain is a nation of small businesses and every which way she can she's taxed them to the hilt, stifling entrepreneurship. She's squeezed the lifeblood out of them instead of looking at the likes of Amazon, or going after "the big boys" who offshore profits. Profits should be taxed in the country they're earned.

Thats why there's going to be unrest! We're becoming a third world country, a basket case requiring an IMF bailout like Greece was one time.

OK, so use your vote, write to the papers, write to your MP, canvass on behalf of your favoured candidate. Yes, we need growth, but Britain is a low-productivity country. There are reasons - can't remember, but you can look online. I seem to remember part of it was a lack of corporate investment.

If growth is what you want, you could raise money for something like The Prince's Trust, which gives small loans to young people for training and business development.

What is pointless is all this aimless protesting that has anger but not clarity. So tired of having my city taken over during the few hours I'm off work. It's constant.

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Wishing14 · Today 06:51

@ijustwanttoworkoutok so there’s the first point of agreement we have established. There does need to be a limit and controls on immigration. So what does everyone think should be done about it? In particular, illegal crossings?

OneTealShaker · Today 06:52

NameChangeMay2026 · Today 06:50

OK, so use your vote, write to the papers, write to your MP, canvass on behalf of your favoured candidate. Yes, we need growth, but Britain is a low-productivity country. There are reasons - can't remember, but you can look online. I seem to remember part of it was a lack of corporate investment.

If growth is what you want, you could raise money for something like The Prince's Trust, which gives small loans to young people for training and business development.

What is pointless is all this aimless protesting that has anger but not clarity. So tired of having my city taken over during the few hours I'm off work. It's constant.

People have tried voting for lower immigration for decades. They got higher.

When democracy fails, people protest.

BeardofHagrid · Today 06:52

NameChangeMay2026 · Today 06:40

I am NOT. I really don't get it. The perp is caught. He will be brought to justice. Riots weren't needed for that.

If you mean immigration, Britain has been mass-importing people for the last twenty-five years, the reason being that our birth rates are not high enough. Economically, we're in desperate need of hardworking immigrants who start businesses etc. And in terms of asylum-seekers, should we stop taking in a number of people in desperate need because of the occasional nutjob? As if there aren't white British nutjobs who also hurt members of the population!

Our birth rates are too low, much of it because of the cost of living. So protest to ask for rent control (Britain had it once), affordable childcare, caps on insane housing prices. Those are the things that will raise the British birth rate.

But yeah, anger and riots and mobs and protests and marches against immigration will do the trick - not. No amount of shapeless, pointless, anguished howling and violence is going to change the fact that our own population is not high enough to sustain society.

I don’t think he came here to start a business.

ijustwanttoworkout · Today 06:53

Wishing14 · Today 06:51

@ijustwanttoworkoutok so there’s the first point of agreement we have established. There does need to be a limit and controls on immigration. So what does everyone think should be done about it? In particular, illegal crossings?

Probably what’s happening now, wherein it’s falling.

But that’s not the point I’m making. The point I’m making is the people out rioting don’t really care about immigration. They just want to be racist and smash things up.

Walkyrie · Today 06:53

NameChangeMay2026 · Today 06:50

OK, so use your vote, write to the papers, write to your MP, canvass on behalf of your favoured candidate. Yes, we need growth, but Britain is a low-productivity country. There are reasons - can't remember, but you can look online. I seem to remember part of it was a lack of corporate investment.

If growth is what you want, you could raise money for something like The Prince's Trust, which gives small loans to young people for training and business development.

What is pointless is all this aimless protesting that has anger but not clarity. So tired of having my city taken over during the few hours I'm off work. It's constant.

What good does that do? I wrote to my MP endlessly about the GRA and received curt responses saying ‘I disagree with you’. It took the Supreme Court to rule on it, Parliament never actively did anything.

ijustwanttoworkout · Today 06:53

OneTealShaker · Today 06:52

People have tried voting for lower immigration for decades. They got higher.

When democracy fails, people protest.

You’re getting lower immigration.

Down from over 900,000 to 150,000.

OneTealShaker · Today 06:54

ijustwanttoworkout · Today 06:42

85% of convicted sexual offenders are white.

Please, please, continue to lecture me on why the 15% matter more because of their skin colour.

Lie. The government doesn’t publish ethinictiy statistics on criminals or crime.

NameChangeMay2026 · Today 06:55

Shoola · Today 06:31

I used to work near parliament square at that time and there were lots of protests going on. Iraq war protest and countryside alliance ones were big ones around that time but there were lots of smaller ones. There was that anti-war guy who spent years living opposite the houses of parliament.

It wasn't like now though, where huge events bring city centres to a standstill, constantly. The ones you mention were small.

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OneTealShaker · Today 06:55

ijustwanttoworkout · Today 06:53

You’re getting lower immigration.

Down from over 900,000 to 150,000.

800k or Nearly a million immigrants last year. Down from several million in preceding years is not an anything to celebrate. Thinking that 800k immigrants in one year is an achievement is delusional.

Cindysparkles · Today 06:55

Persephonia1966 · Today 02:09

Protests can work and can be a part of bringing about real change. In democracies they are a way of people making their voices heard. In oppressive regimes they can topple the government.

BUT

I think that we have fallen into a pattern now where the performance of outrage is considered a way of changing things when it isn't. Or the idea (largely driven by social media) that you should be Angry and that the Angrier you are the more you care and the more moral you are. It means that actual meaningful change is harder because people assume that they changed their Facebook profile picture, or went on the demo and that's job done. It also means that the people who are considered the most engaged are the angriest (ie the ones smashing things up) and you get politicians saying they must be "listened to". Because the angriest people are also the least likely to be able to articulate what they want it's very easy for politicians to manipulate the situation by making themselves the spokesperson for "what people want". The views of the people who aren't smashing things up are viewed as less important or even "out of touch" (because if you were in touch with the situation you'd be angry and smashing things too).

I particularly hate the way personal tragedies are hijacked because while solidarity/empathy is one thing a lot of the anger seems to be a parasitic need to put themselves at the centre of it. Or an idea that the victim isn't the actual victim but society and specifically the angry person. Which is a backslide in the case of sexual assault.

I agree. Sick of everyone being so angry about everything without actually doing anything to change it. And I’m fed up with the media whipping up anger too with the constant DM sad face stories which are now omnipresent across all media outlets.

While I agree governments have to be held to account they are not able to solve everyone’s individual problems and people should put the effort in themselves to improve their own lives, their families’ lives and those of their local communities.

ForSnappySwan · Today 06:55

It was an attempted beheading.

It's not about you.

ijustwanttoworkout · Today 06:55

OneTealShaker · Today 06:54

Lie. The government doesn’t publish ethinictiy statistics on criminals or crime.

Correct, but other groups undertake research.

I’d like you to retract that accusation and apologise please.

https://news.sky.com/story/child-sex-abuse-and-grooming-gangs-what-we-know-and-what-we-dont-from-the-data-13285420

LlynTegid · Today 06:56

Perhaps if we had a fair voting system and politicians who knew about real life, their policies and inactions would mean less anger.

ijustwanttoworkout · Today 06:56

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ijustwanttoworkout · Today 06:56

LlynTegid · Today 06:56

Perhaps if we had a fair voting system and politicians who knew about real life, their policies and inactions would mean less anger.

What do you think Farage knows about real life?

Wishing14 · Today 06:56

@ijustwanttoworkout you have to realise you cannot talk for everyone, you don’t know what they think and want and it’s really not helpful to pretend that you do. It’s dehumanising, and the exact thing that you seem to be against! Immigration is going down - that is true. It correlates to the increase in social unrest, protests and campaigns on social media from ‘right wing agitators’. So, do you not think the two things are connected? And perhaps there is a purpose to the protests and growing calls for change?

ElvirRamcic · Today 06:57

There’s no sensible political debate any longer. People take a position, refuse to believe and deny any evidence that doesn’t support that position, and characterise anyone who disagrees or who even mildly challenges their position as scum, or corrupt, or a “traitor”.

The general population as a whole is getting thicker and thicker and thicker. We’ve never had so much actual information at our fingertips; yet, never has there been more misinformation. Critical thinking is an alien concept to large numbers of people.

It’s difficult not to conclude that we’re seeing the start of the end of human civilisation. That society peaked and we’re at the beginning of the gradual decline back to the Stone Age.

ijustwanttoworkout · Today 06:59

Wishing14 · Today 06:56

@ijustwanttoworkout you have to realise you cannot talk for everyone, you don’t know what they think and want and it’s really not helpful to pretend that you do. It’s dehumanising, and the exact thing that you seem to be against! Immigration is going down - that is true. It correlates to the increase in social unrest, protests and campaigns on social media from ‘right wing agitators’. So, do you not think the two things are connected? And perhaps there is a purpose to the protests and growing calls for change?

No I don’t think the violence of the racist thugs is connected at all.

Wishing14 · Today 07:00

@ijustwanttoworkoutwhat about the campaigns on social media, petitions being signed, growing comments you see from all sorts of people on news stories and threads like these?

Shoola · Today 07:01

NameChangeMay2026 · Today 06:55

It wasn't like now though, where huge events bring city centres to a standstill, constantly. The ones you mention were small.

The 2003 'Stop the War' march is the biggest the UK has ever had.

ijustwanttoworkout · Today 07:01

Wishing14 · Today 07:00

@ijustwanttoworkoutwhat about the campaigns on social media, petitions being signed, growing comments you see from all sorts of people on news stories and threads like these?

The “campaigns” and social media shit is largely foreign accounts, bots paid to destabilise our country.

Iiyama21 · Today 07:01

NameChangeMay2026 · Today 06:42

Actually didn't know that, since police in England don't carry guns. Not sure about Wales and Scotland.

Can’t you think of a reason why the police in Northern Ireland might have guns?