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to be utterly sick of protests, marches, rallies, and riots

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NameChangeMay2026 · Today 01:47

What happened today in Belfast was dreadful. Of course it was.

When Sarah Everard died, there were marches. But a day before she died, an Indian woman Sarah's age was knifed to death in the street in Leicestershire. It was an "honour" killing, I think.

Where was HER lantern on the doorstep of Downing Street? Where was HER march?

My point is, dreadful things happen every day and I am so sick and tired of news items sparking so much public rowdiness. It used to be that the media could report on current events without starting a riot. I know that we have always had riots, but they were the occasional one. And because they were not common, they helped effect change. They were a desperate measure reserved for when nothing else had helped.

Now, together with marches, rallies, and protests, society is constantly disrupted, and I am so, so sick of it. I live in a major city and I can't go anywhere without checking what march, rally, protest, or riot is happening, especially at the weekends. And they are so common that they don't help effect change anymore.

The riots are terrible. Thousands and thousands of pounds' worth of lost property in fires, injured bystanders, police calld away from other duties to attend them. And there are "professional" rabble-rousers who travel to marches, protests, and riots. It's not because they're passionate about a cause. They're just passionate about causing trouble.

I travel for work to major American cities and it's even worse over there. Another day, another riot/protest/march/rally.

They have become a feature of today's society, and I wish they would just stop.

Edit: I actually stay in more because of them. I don't go out of my hotel as much when staying in America, and I don't go to the city centre where I live as much. It's so bad when regular people are put off from walking around city centres because of all these annoying dickheads.

I think it is worse in America, and I'm tired of feeling scared to go out when there, in case I run into an uncontrolled crowd - where the police have guns, and the protestors might, depending on the state.

The burning buildings in Belfast are a disgrace. It's not the owners' fault that this happened.

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Jellybunny98 · Today 06:40

ijustwanttoworkout · Today 06:35

Are you as outraged by the vast majority of these crimes being carried out by white men?

What you maybe are struggling to understand, and another posters point to you, is that proportionally they are not carried out by white men. Proportionally “black & other” are significantly over represented in these crimes. Maybe do some research? You can find all the stats via ONS, I’d encourage you to have a look.

NameChangeMay2026 · Today 06:40

EmeraldRoulette · Today 06:32

Oh, you're just baiting now

I am NOT. I really don't get it. The perp is caught. He will be brought to justice. Riots weren't needed for that.

If you mean immigration, Britain has been mass-importing people for the last twenty-five years, the reason being that our birth rates are not high enough. Economically, we're in desperate need of hardworking immigrants who start businesses etc. And in terms of asylum-seekers, should we stop taking in a number of people in desperate need because of the occasional nutjob? As if there aren't white British nutjobs who also hurt members of the population!

Our birth rates are too low, much of it because of the cost of living. So protest to ask for rent control (Britain had it once), affordable childcare, caps on insane housing prices. Those are the things that will raise the British birth rate.

But yeah, anger and riots and mobs and protests and marches against immigration will do the trick - not. No amount of shapeless, pointless, anguished howling and violence is going to change the fact that our own population is not high enough to sustain society.

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Wishing14 · Today 06:41

@ijustwanttoworkoutOk, let’s use a simple analogy. My kids can be pain in the bums, and answer back to me. I deal with them. But if I invite their friends over and they’re rude and disrespectful, I sure as hell won’t be inviting them back. If you have problems of your own you should deal with them, not add to them. And if men are so terrible, as is constantly said on here, men from cultures where men are viewed as superior are going to have greater issues in terms of sexual and physical violence towards women.

ijustwanttoworkout · Today 06:41

OneTealShaker · Today 06:39

I don’t think you understand the point of the argument.

The point of the argument is that you lot are seemingly fine with violence against women and girls, as long as it’s from white British men.

After the Henry Nowak incident (and by the way, the same people who were out in Southampton smashing the place up have now turned on his family as his sister has a mixed race child), a woman reported that she and her children were left terrified in bed because their car was set alight outside their house. How does that help anyone?

Why are the same group silent on Farage’s abysmal views on women? His repeated absence from parliament? The fact that reform politicians have convictions for domestic violence that are ignored? If you care about women and children, surely that would be a major issue for you?

OneTealShaker · Today 06:42

Yeah but, diversity, innit.

Whats a few women getting raped as long as we can feel good about open borders.

We need to invest more money on top of paying for them to live for free, to teach these men to not rape women.

If we don’t bring them here and teach them, the women in their own countries would suffer at their hands instead.

More white men commit rapes in this country. Don’t tell us about over representation or per capita realities.

oi racist.

Can’t be bothered to read the thread. But have we hit the bingo on these yet? These are usually all regurgitated on the first page.

NameChangeMay2026 · Today 06:42

Iiyama21 · Today 06:25

The police have guns in Belfast too you know @NameChangeMay2026

Actually didn't know that, since police in England don't carry guns. Not sure about Wales and Scotland.

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Nellodee · Today 06:42

Was it 40% of those arrested in the race riots last year who were convicted of domestic abuse? I don’t have the figures directly to hand, but it was up there.

Jellybunny98 · Today 06:42

ijustwanttoworkout · Today 06:38

No I understand it perfectly.

But the issue is, when women and children are harmed by white men and you just don’t care, it kind of defeats the entire point of your argument.

Do you not remember the huge marches for Sarah Everard then?

I’m not sure I have ever, ever, seen anyone murdered that simply nobody cared about?

ijustwanttoworkout · Today 06:42

Jellybunny98 · Today 06:40

What you maybe are struggling to understand, and another posters point to you, is that proportionally they are not carried out by white men. Proportionally “black & other” are significantly over represented in these crimes. Maybe do some research? You can find all the stats via ONS, I’d encourage you to have a look.

85% of convicted sexual offenders are white.

Please, please, continue to lecture me on why the 15% matter more because of their skin colour.

OneTealShaker · Today 06:42

ijustwanttoworkout · Today 06:41

The point of the argument is that you lot are seemingly fine with violence against women and girls, as long as it’s from white British men.

After the Henry Nowak incident (and by the way, the same people who were out in Southampton smashing the place up have now turned on his family as his sister has a mixed race child), a woman reported that she and her children were left terrified in bed because their car was set alight outside their house. How does that help anyone?

Why are the same group silent on Farage’s abysmal views on women? His repeated absence from parliament? The fact that reform politicians have convictions for domestic violence that are ignored? If you care about women and children, surely that would be a major issue for you?

I don’t think you understand the point of the argument. Try again. Or don’t, it’s probably easier.

ijustwanttoworkout · Today 06:43

Jellybunny98 · Today 06:42

Do you not remember the huge marches for Sarah Everard then?

I’m not sure I have ever, ever, seen anyone murdered that simply nobody cared about?

The marches, mainly attended by women, that were incredibly peaceful and even attended by the princess of wales?

Not riots burning down houses and buses?

ijustwanttoworkout · Today 06:43

OneTealShaker · Today 06:42

I don’t think you understand the point of the argument. Try again. Or don’t, it’s probably easier.

You don’t actually have any response because you know I’m right.

Walkyrie · Today 06:44

NameChangeMay2026 · Today 02:47

And @canuckup as well.

OP is fed up with the inconvenience to her domestic and social routine
Because it's upsetting your comfortable little life?

Since neither of you can read, I'll repeat the issues:

  • Huge damage to property, costing the owners of buildings, cars and shops large amounts. This is totally unfair.
  • This damage drives up insurance costs for everyone.
  • Police are called away from regular duties to deal with this shit. Their numbers are low enough already after years of cuts.
  • The protests do not effect change because their aims are wide-ranging and unclear. See my list above of huge protests that achieved precisely fuck-all.
  • Innocent people get caught up in riots and protests and get crushed, killed, or injured.

The government is not going to stop immigration as long as our birth rates are low. Partly they are low because everything costs too much. But you don't see anyone mounting peaceful protests for a clear aim with a feasible outcome, do you? When was the last time anyone protested or marched for affordable childcare? Because it's only professional trouble-makers who do this rabble-rousing.

But yeah it's all about my comfortable little life.

If you can't get the police or a fire engine when you need one, because they're at marches, rallies, riots, or protests, or you or a loved one are injured in a riot, or crushed at a march, you might feel differently.

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But our birth rate will always be low and over replaced by immigration in that case. The immigrants themselves will grow old and need care, and the whole thing will start again.

If 7 million immigrants hasn’t been enough to ‘prop up our economy and NHS’ then is it even working?

Rainbowstarssunlight · Today 06:44

Where on earth do you live?! I live in London and this is not something that has caused me a problem or made me change my plans

OneTealShaker · Today 06:44

ijustwanttoworkout · Today 06:43

You don’t actually have any response because you know I’m right.

Lol, what is this? A school playground. Do you want a prize.

Nellodee · Today 06:44

It was twenty of rioters who have since that time been reported for domestic abuse. How does that work out per capita, eh?

Wishing14 · Today 06:45

@ijustwanttoworkoutwhere does it end? Should we bring in 1, 2, 10 million more? Where is the cut off for you? And why?

OneTealShaker · Today 06:46

Wishing14 · Today 06:45

@ijustwanttoworkoutwhere does it end? Should we bring in 1, 2, 10 million more? Where is the cut off for you? And why?

Nah, there’s no cutoff. The cult of woke and the ‘rent a progressive’ brigade thinks it should be limitless.

ijustwanttoworkout · Today 06:47

OneTealShaker · Today 06:44

Lol, what is this? A school playground. Do you want a prize.

Men make up 91% of sexual assault convictions. They’re hugely over represented in the statistics.

But nobody ever, ever wants to talk about that because it would mean admitting the same people who are so virtuous for rioting in the streets are the ones ignoring everyday behaviour that leads to sexual assaults.

They’re the same people who will contribute to the 30% increase in DV when England lose a match this World Cup.

They’re the same people who support the stripping of our fundamental rights - the right to abortion, the right to protected maternity periods in work, the right to equal pay.

Because they do not give a fuck about women and children. They want to go out, get pissed and smash some things up. Meanwhile you and I will suffer, and for some godforsaken reason, women support it!

OneTealShaker · Today 06:48

ijustwanttoworkout · Today 06:47

Men make up 91% of sexual assault convictions. They’re hugely over represented in the statistics.

But nobody ever, ever wants to talk about that because it would mean admitting the same people who are so virtuous for rioting in the streets are the ones ignoring everyday behaviour that leads to sexual assaults.

They’re the same people who will contribute to the 30% increase in DV when England lose a match this World Cup.

They’re the same people who support the stripping of our fundamental rights - the right to abortion, the right to protected maternity periods in work, the right to equal pay.

Because they do not give a fuck about women and children. They want to go out, get pissed and smash some things up. Meanwhile you and I will suffer, and for some godforsaken reason, women support it!

As I say, you don’t understand. Just repeating random words unrelated to the point made doesn’t make any sense.

Jellybunny98 · Today 06:48

NameChangeMay2026 · Today 06:40

I am NOT. I really don't get it. The perp is caught. He will be brought to justice. Riots weren't needed for that.

If you mean immigration, Britain has been mass-importing people for the last twenty-five years, the reason being that our birth rates are not high enough. Economically, we're in desperate need of hardworking immigrants who start businesses etc. And in terms of asylum-seekers, should we stop taking in a number of people in desperate need because of the occasional nutjob? As if there aren't white British nutjobs who also hurt members of the population!

Our birth rates are too low, much of it because of the cost of living. So protest to ask for rent control (Britain had it once), affordable childcare, caps on insane housing prices. Those are the things that will raise the British birth rate.

But yeah, anger and riots and mobs and protests and marches against immigration will do the trick - not. No amount of shapeless, pointless, anguished howling and violence is going to change the fact that our own population is not high enough to sustain society.

Surely you can understand, even if you don’t agree, that these riots are about more than just this one person?

It’s representative of the concerns people have now, it raises questions about screening, monitoring, deportation policies, people worried that the immigration level is too high, too many to properly monitor/vet resulting in what feels to them like uncontrolled immigration. People generally have lost trust in our government, so this is also an extension of that.

The tide is turning, or maybe has already turned, on immigration and its use. Maybe some people would rather see society change than continue the way things are… we don’t all have to agree.

I don’t agree with the way the riots have been carried out, but to try and say you can’t understand the concern or logic behind them beyond “well this one man has been caught” is really stupid.

ijustwanttoworkout · Today 06:48

Wishing14 · Today 06:45

@ijustwanttoworkoutwhere does it end? Should we bring in 1, 2, 10 million more? Where is the cut off for you? And why?

Who do you think we are “bringing in”?

I’m certainly not one for mass uncontrolled migration, but guess who allowed that? Boris Johnson. Farage would do the same, no matter what he says. It’s a policy of the right in order to provide cheap labour to prop up their billionaire mates. Labour have cut immigration massively, there have been days and days of 0 small boat crossings. But that’s not publicised because it doesn’t fit the narrative Farage et al have sold.

ijustwanttoworkout · Today 06:49

OneTealShaker · Today 06:48

As I say, you don’t understand. Just repeating random words unrelated to the point made doesn’t make any sense.

You’re clearly the one who’s not reading and understanding my point. I understand yours perfectly. You’re okay with violence as long as it’s white British men doing the violent things.

Jellybunny98 · Today 06:49

ijustwanttoworkout · Today 06:43

The marches, mainly attended by women, that were incredibly peaceful and even attended by the princess of wales?

Not riots burning down houses and buses?

Ah, so you can admit yourself that contrary to your own point, people do very much still care when it’s crimes committed by white men. Thanks for making that so easy😊

newfriend05 · Today 06:49

People have a right to protest, politics is personal .. and yes that sometimes includes violence , if you look back in history sometimes it’s the only way to get change.. and saying murders happen every day is really not the point ..when we’re allowed to be angry about people coming into the country and trying to cut an innocent person head off ..