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to be utterly sick of protests, marches, rallies, and riots

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NameChangeMay2026 · Yesterday 01:47

What happened today in Belfast was dreadful. Of course it was.

When Sarah Everard died, there were marches. But a day before she died, an Indian woman Sarah's age was knifed to death in the street in Leicestershire. It was an "honour" killing, I think.

Where was HER lantern on the doorstep of Downing Street? Where was HER march?

My point is, dreadful things happen every day and I am so sick and tired of news items sparking so much public rowdiness. It used to be that the media could report on current events without starting a riot. I know that we have always had riots, but they were the occasional one. And because they were not common, they helped effect change. They were a desperate measure reserved for when nothing else had helped.

Now, together with marches, rallies, and protests, society is constantly disrupted, and I am so, so sick of it. I live in a major city and I can't go anywhere without checking what march, rally, protest, or riot is happening, especially at the weekends. And they are so common that they don't help effect change anymore.

The riots are terrible. Thousands and thousands of pounds' worth of lost property in fires, injured bystanders, police calld away from other duties to attend them. And there are "professional" rabble-rousers who travel to marches, protests, and riots. It's not because they're passionate about a cause. They're just passionate about causing trouble.

I travel for work to major American cities and it's even worse over there. Another day, another riot/protest/march/rally.

They have become a feature of today's society, and I wish they would just stop.

Edit: I actually stay in more because of them. I don't go out of my hotel as much when staying in America, and I don't go to the city centre where I live as much. It's so bad when regular people are put off from walking around city centres because of all these annoying dickheads.

I think it is worse in America, and I'm tired of feeling scared to go out when there, in case I run into an uncontrolled crowd - where the police have guns, and the protestors might, depending on the state.

The burning buildings in Belfast are a disgrace. It's not the owners' fault that this happened.

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whoopsnomore · Yesterday 08:49

BeardofHagrid · Yesterday 06:52

I don’t think he came here to start a business.

But the point is immigrants are net contributors - the focus on (and blatant exploitation of) one or two sensationalised cases, which are brutal and shocking and must be dealt with is disproportionate and a result of massive manipulation . Ask yourself who stands to gain from division and chaos? Why is the right in this country so close to the Russians? Why does Musk amplify these cases (see Mehdi Hasan's comments about his South African Apartheid era values ? Why is Tommy Robinson / Yaxley-Lennon in Moscow with Musk senior?

NameChangeMay2026 · Yesterday 08:49

Tabarnak · Yesterday 08:44

OP: there was not a march for Sarah Everard. There was a silent vigil at a spot she walked past.
I was there because I lived locally and walk that route.
Women brought flowers and stood silently. There was a scuffle when police walked on top of the flowers and used loud hailers to disperse people who were already drifting away.

I feel sick at heart that you are fed up with such a peaceful and moving event. And the pivotal fact that made her murder especially chilling was that it was a police officer. A man who all women, including the Indian woman you cite, should be able to look to for protection.

Vigils are beautiful and peaceful, and don't usually have tens of thousands or hundreds of thousand of attendees. They are gatherings, not marches that disrupt entire cities constantly. I have no problem with her vigil, and that is not what I meant.

I thought that after her death, there had been some marches/protests. There have been so many. I stand corrected if not.

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StrawberriesandBrylcream · Yesterday 08:53

DancingNotDrowning · Yesterday 08:40

@StrawberriesandBrylcream

I’m actually going to quote what I said because you’re one of several posters who have accused me of being accepting of crime by white men

When British men commit dreadful crimes we have to accept it as we’re stuck with them. When we invite additional violent men into the country I think it’s reasonable to recognise that was a mistake and there is a particular horror in recognising that but for the decision to allow them to remain the incident would not have happened

I didn’t think I had to spell out that British men does not equal white men.

I thought I had sufficiently clearly linked the matter of acceptance to their location.

whether by accident or design your and other posters willingness to misrepresent my words is reason #101 why this issue will continue to boil over.

When British men commit dreadful crimes we have to accept it as we’re stuck with them.

These were your words, I didn't make them up or misquote them. My point is that we dont have to accept violence from any man.

lljkk · Yesterday 08:54

If the people cannot make their voices heard at the ballot box

... then mob rule is fine. Yeah, I heard that point fine.
Majoritarianism = fine.
That's what some PP are saying. That the most angry and violent people should set policy now.

NameChangeMay2026 · Yesterday 08:57

Tabarnak · Yesterday 08:48

Immigration IS down
Net migration IS down
Small boat arrivals are down. By 38% actually.

So why the heck is there an anti-immigration march in my town this weekend, then?

And the government will just sneak more immigrants back in some way, because we're in desperate need of them due to our birth rate being so low.

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Clavinova · Yesterday 08:57

ijustwanttoworkout · Yesterday 06:55

Correct, but other groups undertake research.

I’d like you to retract that accusation and apologise please.

https://news.sky.com/story/child-sex-abuse-and-grooming-gangs-what-we-know-and-what-we-dont-from-the-data-13285420

Just to point out that your link states that the ethnicity of perpetrators and victims was only recorded in 29% of cases. That's 70% of the data missing - you haven't proven your claim to the other poster with that link (you claimed 85% of perpetrators are white).

cathome64 · Yesterday 08:57

The constant protests are a symptom of the decline in society. People are angry and scared, a dangerous combination but very convenient for people like Farage and Musk.

The decline in behaviour is evident in the way people drive, impatiently and aggressively, and in the way people treat shop workers and hospitality staff. We've proved we're pretty awful as a species and I'm not sure much can be done.

Firetreev · Yesterday 08:58

MrsShawnHatosy · Yesterday 08:44

And I don’t remember any riots about Harold Shipman or Dennis Nielsen or the Yorkshire Ripper or Hungerford or Dunblane. These thugs don’t give a shit about crimes committed by white British men.

The vast majority of these men are criminals themselves. In some areas during the Southport riots as many as 60% of those arrested had previous convictions for domestic violence. Considering how many DV crimes go unreported, I wouldn't be surprised if the figure of domestic abusers amongst the rioters was closer to 90%. They're backwards low life men with massive anger issues. One day they'll batter their wives and kids, the next they'll burn down the homes of immigrants with them inside.

People are trying to give them cover pretending that they're concerned citizens. They're not. If they were they would have been out to protest every other stabbing or rape or murder. They only care about terrorising others.

NameChangeMay2026 · Yesterday 09:00

Firetreev · Yesterday 08:58

The vast majority of these men are criminals themselves. In some areas during the Southport riots as many as 60% of those arrested had previous convictions for domestic violence. Considering how many DV crimes go unreported, I wouldn't be surprised if the figure of domestic abusers amongst the rioters was closer to 90%. They're backwards low life men with massive anger issues. One day they'll batter their wives and kids, the next they'll burn down the homes of immigrants with them inside.

People are trying to give them cover pretending that they're concerned citizens. They're not. If they were they would have been out to protest every other stabbing or rape or murder. They only care about terrorising others.

Exactly.

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1dayatatime · Yesterday 09:00

Whammyammy · Yesterday 08:47

Is it racism or people fed up with illegal migrants abusing the system, raping, murdering, decapitating...

Oh it's definitely racism- if only people like yourself recognised that in the name of cultural diversity we should be more accepting of grooming gangs, rape, murder, abusing the welfare system and yes decapitation.

Its only through two tier policing and positive discrimination that we can not only increase the number of such crimes but also make them more diverse- after all "diversity is our strength ".

Clavinova · Yesterday 09:00

Firetreev · Yesterday 08:58

The vast majority of these men are criminals themselves. In some areas during the Southport riots as many as 60% of those arrested had previous convictions for domestic violence. Considering how many DV crimes go unreported, I wouldn't be surprised if the figure of domestic abusers amongst the rioters was closer to 90%. They're backwards low life men with massive anger issues. One day they'll batter their wives and kids, the next they'll burn down the homes of immigrants with them inside.

People are trying to give them cover pretending that they're concerned citizens. They're not. If they were they would have been out to protest every other stabbing or rape or murder. They only care about terrorising others.

In some areas during the Southport riots as many as 60% of those arrested had previous convictions for domestic violence

Convictions? Are you sure?

WaterWall22 · Yesterday 09:01

canuckup · Yesterday 02:12

Because it's upsetting your comfortable little life?

A guy just almost had his head chopped off in Belfast and you're sick of the protesters???

Well there was recently a white 19 yr old girl who tried to behead a kurdish shopkeeper after being radicalised by far right agenda. It is likely that these protests encouraged her as she was vulnerable. Also, it shows the double standard as no one protested because a white person was the perp and it is fairly frequent occurrence.

NameChangeMay2026 · Yesterday 09:03

cathome64 · Yesterday 08:57

The constant protests are a symptom of the decline in society. People are angry and scared, a dangerous combination but very convenient for people like Farage and Musk.

The decline in behaviour is evident in the way people drive, impatiently and aggressively, and in the way people treat shop workers and hospitality staff. We've proved we're pretty awful as a species and I'm not sure much can be done.

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Yes, that's it, isn't it. The constant protests ARE a symptom of the decline in society.

Speaking of declines in society, look at America.

The world feels like a tinderbox.

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Gladystheimpaler · Yesterday 09:04

cathome64 · Yesterday 08:57

The constant protests are a symptom of the decline in society. People are angry and scared, a dangerous combination but very convenient for people like Farage and Musk.

The decline in behaviour is evident in the way people drive, impatiently and aggressively, and in the way people treat shop workers and hospitality staff. We've proved we're pretty awful as a species and I'm not sure much can be done.

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And all the agitators are far away from the front line. Farage stoked the flames of the Southampton protest on social media but didn't get his hands dirty and attend. His wife has German nationality and two of his kids have joint British and German nationality, having free movement and can leave the UK at any time. Musk sits in one of his luxury pads live streaming into protests, his private jet flying miles above the streets where lit bins are hurled at police.

soddingspiderseason · Yesterday 09:04

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Firetreev · Yesterday 09:05

Clavinova · Yesterday 09:00

In some areas during the Southport riots as many as 60% of those arrested had previous convictions for domestic violence

Convictions? Are you sure?

Convictions yes.

bafta16 · Yesterday 09:07

Meadowfinch · Yesterday 02:08

People are angry at things that are happening every day. The protests are their way of telling politicians to get off their backsides and make the necessary changes. Or would you rather everyone was quiet and obedient, and people continued to be abused daily while the authority looked the other way and pretended it wasn't happening?
Of course building and property damage is not good, protest should be peaceful, but protest needs to happen when things are not right.

Without protest, women wouldn't have the vote, grooming gangs would still be an open secret and the Equalities Act wouldn't exist.

I don't think the sufferagettes were burning buiildings with children inside them?

Persephonia1966 · Yesterday 09:07

NameChangeMay2026 · Yesterday 09:03

Yes, that's it, isn't it. The constant protests ARE a symptom of the decline in society.

Speaking of declines in society, look at America.

The world feels like a tinderbox.

Look up the Gordon riots. We go through this shit sometimes.

I also think social media has something to do with it since in some cases the street based stuff is almost material for online content. Plus it's easier for bad actors to chip away at existing grievance and make it worse. That doesn't mean people don't have legitimate grievances before anyone jumps in.

We need to figure out a way to argue back against the idea that the most Angry are the most Correct. And there needs to be be more public censure of the shit stirrers like Farage and Musk. I would like it if politicians showed some leadership there. Criticising them might annoy the rooting types but the rioting types were never going to vote for them anyway.

labtest57 · Yesterday 09:09

MojoMoon · Yesterday 08:30

The only information provided is that her attacker was white, British and public school educated.

And you have concluded from those facts, that the attack was not preventable.

Given there was an initial attack and then.ater an attempted murder, it does feel like the second attack might well have been preventable?

Or is violence by British public schoolboys just entirely natural and we must just let them get on with it?

A British public schoolboy is already in the country. Allowing additional men from misogynist cultures, with no knowledge of their backgrounds criminal history etc, is madness.

Clavinova · Yesterday 09:09

Firetreev · Yesterday 09:05

Convictions yes.

Do you have a link?

Sunnyyetnotsunny · Yesterday 09:10

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Only small fraction of us foreign born works in care and NHS. People always say this "they work in NHS etc" but absolute majority of us really don't. The numbers are available.
Doesn't mean we are not useful and benefit to UK, but I always find this argument about NHS and care disingenuous and just trying to play on emotions tbh

FrootyCider · Yesterday 09:11

What happened in Belfast last night was not a march or a protest. The protests/marches that happen in central London - maybe they're useless (though I think it's useful to have people's voices heard) but they're highly controlled, peaceful for the vast majority of the time, and easily avoidable. The routes are published, the police are there.

Belfast was a pogom. A group of 100 masked men were going door to door, shouting 'foreigners out', breaking in to homes, checking people's skin colour/nationality, and burning the houses and cars down. Families have lost their homes and livelihoods and were lucky to escape with their lives.
As is often the case, the 'protesters' (terrorists) who come out for this stuff have got no interest in protecting women and girls. Tommy-ten-names and the ilk have high rates of domestic violence and sexual assault convictions. They're just chomping at the bit to enact violence against foreigners.
There is absolutely no justification on earth that could make this response okay.

Firetreev · Yesterday 09:11

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Honestly, I've reached a point where I'm okay with all those whingeing about immigrants providing vital services to stop receiving those services or go to the back of the queue.

You don't like brown immigrant doctors. Fine - you can have your treatment delayed and wait for a white British one. You're elderly and require care at home, but don't like black or Asian care workers. Fine, you can sit in your own piss until a white Brit gets to you. They're engineering a society where we won't have staff to meet the needs of the most vulnerable, and no, the average white British young person doesn't want to wipe your backside, not even for £25 per hour.

NameChangeMay2026 · Yesterday 09:16

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Oh ffs, I'm massively pro-immigrant. I was one myself, for twenty years, in another country. By "sneak them back in" I meant that governments will find ways to do what they want without upsetting voters. So there's no need to get your knickers in a twist over a word choice and extrapolate all sorts. If you'd bothered to read my posts before getting high on virtue-signalling steam coming out of your ears, you'd see that I've been writing on this thread about how desperately we need immigration.

Also @Sunnyyetnotsunny and @Firetreev. Please don't let this keen-to-take-offence poster make out that I'm against immigration, when I'm actually very pro, as my posts say.

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Pineforests · Yesterday 09:16

PinkMagpie · Yesterday 07:50

Your whataboutery is not relevant here

It's not for you to choose what is relevant Grin

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