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AIBU to question the media response to the Belfast attack?

691 replies

Squirrel001 · Yesterday 08:55

Why are the media being silent on the Belfast attack?

Is the open borders narrative that important to them that they feel the need to ignore one of the most horrific attacks ever seen on a UK street?

I despair for the future of the UK. It’s grim.

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Ablondiebutagoody · Yesterday 11:31

MsJinks · Yesterday 11:24

Did you not read the message from @Pureclass? You’d actually want to join paramilitary thugs on the streets if you could - I think you don’t have a clue and I can’t say I’m impressed by what you think might work to force the gov’t to do - well what ‘do everything paramilitaries want?’ What even is that! ‘Remove all non whites?’ - how do you know everyone wants this?

Because its bollocks. Not allowed to protest because people will call you a paramilitary thug. Makes a change from far right I guess. All sorts of people will be protesting.

smallglassbottle · Yesterday 11:36

Ablondiebutagoody · Yesterday 11:31

Because its bollocks. Not allowed to protest because people will call you a paramilitary thug. Makes a change from far right I guess. All sorts of people will be protesting.

It's a desperate attempt to stop people from protesting. Luckily, meaningless insults are now failing to have an effect on those who object.

cardibach · Yesterday 11:36

smallglassbottle · Yesterday 09:54

If it happened to you or one of your family you'd be happy for it to be kept quiet?

Very strange narratives on these threads. Surely liberals can't be that stupid?

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It’s not being kept quiet. It’s being reported with adjectives such as ‘brutal’. Politicians have made statements.
If it were me or one of my family I wouldn’t want strangers - or worse, friends and family - coming across the actual attack and seeing it. I definitely wouldn’t want people to be starting gossipy threads about it.

cardibach · Yesterday 11:38

smallglassbottle · Yesterday 10:10

Obviously not, but how else would the truth emerge? This isn't 'just' a stabbing despite how the media are reporting it.

Presumably the medical evidence of the doctors treating the victim would be available to the courts?

Nanny0gg · Yesterday 11:40

Savvysix1984 · Yesterday 09:10

It wasn’t a stabbing. It was the gouging out of eyes and an attempted beheading. It was barbaric. And it won’t be reported by msm that the attacker was Somalian or what he was shouting.

Well I've just heard that on the radio and it's in the papers.

They needed verification first so that the mob wasn't whipped up

chirrupybird · Yesterday 11:41

StillgotmyiPod · Yesterday 09:54

How do you know he's a religious fanatic?

How do you know this isn't a drug deal gone wrong?

How do you know this isn't a gang dispute?

How do you know this isn't someone seriously mentally unwell?

The above are all possibilities.

Which is why the facts have to be established before the media start reporting on them.

At the moment, the only thing anyone can say with any confidence is that there was a horrific attack.

I think mentally unwell is a given, no one sane could do that wherever they are from. The attacker looks dark skinned that's all you can tell really.

LBFseBrom · Yesterday 11:41

Squirrel001 · Yesterday 08:55

Why are the media being silent on the Belfast attack?

Is the open borders narrative that important to them that they feel the need to ignore one of the most horrific attacks ever seen on a UK street?

I despair for the future of the UK. It’s grim.

It's all over the news.

smallglassbottle · Yesterday 11:41

cardibach · Yesterday 11:36

It’s not being kept quiet. It’s being reported with adjectives such as ‘brutal’. Politicians have made statements.
If it were me or one of my family I wouldn’t want strangers - or worse, friends and family - coming across the actual attack and seeing it. I definitely wouldn’t want people to be starting gossipy threads about it.

The poster that I was answering indicated that they would prefer things to be kept quiet. We do now live in both a surveillance and social media society and videos, CCTV and photos do record significant events. It is a very sad and shocking video and I feel very bad that this is out there for the victim's sake. It is a true record of events though, which will help the police (who we know can try to obfuscate things) and people have a right to know what's going on in their community (twas ever thus).

Nanny0gg · Yesterday 11:42

Littlemisssunshine1982 · Yesterday 11:18

Not an accurate story tho, they reported it as a stabbing when it wasn’t the man had his eyes gouged out and he was hacking at his neck, it happened last night and the video is all over the internet for all to see so no doubt the reporters have seen this video too but still call it a stabbing rather than say what really happened

I haven't seen 'stabbing'

The reporting (after police verification no doubt) is accurate

Omega3fishoil · Yesterday 11:43

The BBC are state owned so they will be pushed in what they are allowed to post. Can’t have the government looking bad can we

Rest in peace that girl, this country is a shambles

CornishDaughteroftheDawn · Yesterday 11:44

Gloriia · Yesterday 11:29

It's racist to have an opinion. To worry about violent criminals arriving on our shores is racist. We must not talk about it, just have a cup of tea and do our nails that is allowed anything else is racist.

The head in the sand approach does not work though.

Yes, and we definitely are not allowed to discuss the fact that men from extremely violent or war torn countries may be damaged and have a capacity for violence we find hard to imagine.

Many of these attacks are put down to ‘mental health’, like Valdo Calocane evading a murder convictions for the three people he stabbed to death because of ‘mental health’.

The issue of people in authority not doing their jobs in trying to prevent these horrific attacks because if the colour of the attackers skin.

And we are the bad guys for wanting to talk about it to try and prevent more deaths.

EasternStandard · Yesterday 11:45

Nanny0gg · Yesterday 11:42

I haven't seen 'stabbing'

The reporting (after police verification no doubt) is accurate

Times radio used stabbing this morning.

Lifeomars · Yesterday 11:47

Cheer up OP, I am sure Farage will be making another "Emergency Broadcast" in the next few days, very carefullly worded so as to avoid compromising any forthcoming trial. Elon and J D Vance will be adding their opinions too no doubt. I guess that the initial perceived delay was due to reputable news sites checking, verfifying and waiting for more information before runnning the story rather than a consequence of some dastardly plot.

Velumental · Yesterday 11:47

Here's something else from northern Ireland

Here you are complaining a northern Ireland crime hasn't been reported on the bbc. What other recent attacks in Belfast HAVE you seen reported?

Did you see the story of the much loved local character in his 50s burnt to death in an arson attack in balkymoney?

Did you see the story today of the Indian entrepreneur being burnt out of his business for no reason other than his ethnicity?

Did you follow the story of the racist riots by the loyalist hoardes last year?
.have you followed the Noah Donohue enquiry?

Are you aware of injuries sustained in the serious bar brawls on the falls road at the weekend?

What about the recent reporting on unlawful killing of suspected IRA conspirators by SAS operatives being declared illegal?

Because for the 20 years I've lived in Scotland I've expressed horror at the things that happen back home and are never reported.

Actually what's DIFFERENT about this attack is that it HAS been reported.

It would be justifiable to ask WHY HAS THIS ATTACKE MADE IT TO PROMINENT BRITISH MEDIA?

Walkyrie · Yesterday 11:48

Lifeomars · Yesterday 11:47

Cheer up OP, I am sure Farage will be making another "Emergency Broadcast" in the next few days, very carefullly worded so as to avoid compromising any forthcoming trial. Elon and J D Vance will be adding their opinions too no doubt. I guess that the initial perceived delay was due to reputable news sites checking, verfifying and waiting for more information before runnning the story rather than a consequence of some dastardly plot.

Wow your first thought is Farage?

IAmBeaIDrinkTea · Yesterday 11:48

Omega3fishoil · Yesterday 11:43

The BBC are state owned so they will be pushed in what they are allowed to post. Can’t have the government looking bad can we

Rest in peace that girl, this country is a shambles

Yeah, no. That's not how it works.
As I said upthread, any actual genuine publication, whether it be the BBC, the Guardian, The Daily Mail, The Express or whoever, have to verify actual facts first.
Unlike Joe Patriot with his smartphone who just fancies himself as a "citizen journalist".

Walkyrie · Yesterday 11:48

Velumental · Yesterday 11:47

Here's something else from northern Ireland

Here you are complaining a northern Ireland crime hasn't been reported on the bbc. What other recent attacks in Belfast HAVE you seen reported?

Did you see the story of the much loved local character in his 50s burnt to death in an arson attack in balkymoney?

Did you see the story today of the Indian entrepreneur being burnt out of his business for no reason other than his ethnicity?

Did you follow the story of the racist riots by the loyalist hoardes last year?
.have you followed the Noah Donohue enquiry?

Are you aware of injuries sustained in the serious bar brawls on the falls road at the weekend?

What about the recent reporting on unlawful killing of suspected IRA conspirators by SAS operatives being declared illegal?

Because for the 20 years I've lived in Scotland I've expressed horror at the things that happen back home and are never reported.

Actually what's DIFFERENT about this attack is that it HAS been reported.

It would be justifiable to ask WHY HAS THIS ATTACKE MADE IT TO PROMINENT BRITISH MEDIA?

If they’re never reported how do you know about them?

Velumental · Yesterday 11:49

Walkyrie · Yesterday 11:48

If they’re never reported how do you know about them?

Because I'm Northern Irish. Because I follow local new sites. Because I am back in northern Ireland 6-10.times a year, because I have family who personally know some of the people involved.

IAmBeaIDrinkTea · Yesterday 11:52

Walkyrie · Yesterday 11:48

If they’re never reported how do you know about them?

I don't think they're saying that they're never reported at all (they clearly are in NI by the sounds of it) - just not in England.
Just saying why now are we hearing about this one but other horrors in the news we don't.

HRTQueen · Yesterday 11:52

Squirrel001 · Yesterday 09:03

Read the article and the watch the video. You would be forgiven for thinking they were describing a different incident.

only by stupid people like yourself op

It was on BBC news early this morning and its headline news still

Its an attempted murder this is not always headline news as it depends on the circumstances but it is being reported as headline news

so your post is bollocks op

Walkyrie · Yesterday 11:53

Velumental · Yesterday 11:49

Because I'm Northern Irish. Because I follow local new sites. Because I am back in northern Ireland 6-10.times a year, because I have family who personally know some of the people involved.

So they are reported? And Noah Donohue (RIP) has been discussed a lot on here, there is huge support for a proper enquiry into his death and the reasons behind it.

There was a lot of reporting re the Northern Irish ‘protests’ taking place last year, we all heard about that.

You’ve given a lot of examples there which are news but not specific to what is being discussed here.

NapoleonsNavy · Yesterday 11:53

It's atrocious what's happening, but people think we shouldn't change our border policy?

Velumental · Yesterday 11:54

Are you aware of the recent sentencing of Stephen McCullough for the brutal murder of 15 week pregnant Natalie McNally

Look up the 2103 case in ballymena of 21 yr old Adam robinson in a wheelie bin

Look up the murder of 21 year old Chloe mitchell in 2023, dismembered in a wheelie bin.

Now do me a favor and see if you can find as many horrific violent crimes perpetrated by those not from northern ireland originally

Velumental · Yesterday 11:55

Walkyrie · Yesterday 11:53

So they are reported? And Noah Donohue (RIP) has been discussed a lot on here, there is huge support for a proper enquiry into his death and the reasons behind it.

There was a lot of reporting re the Northern Irish ‘protests’ taking place last year, we all heard about that.

You’ve given a lot of examples there which are news but not specific to what is being discussed here.

My point is this was an assault of single man. So far no one has died. The murders I've listed, how many of these were reported within 24 hours in British media?

Icanthinkformyselfthanks · Yesterday 11:55

chirrupybird · Yesterday 09:16

Hard to miss in the news. It sounds horrible, but any worse than stabbing small children in a dance class? Or any of the other attacks usually carried out by people with severe mental health problems. No doubt riots to follow with all the usual people stirring up trouble.

@chirrupybird , it sounds like you’ve decided that this creature has severe mental health problems. That will make it so much easier to bear for the victim who is reported as being a teenager whose eyes were gouged out and whose head was attempted to be cut off.
By the way I’m getting on a bit now and this sort of sadistic attack is to my understanding a relatively recent phenomenon. To what do you attribute the rise in ‘mental health issues’ among a particular cohort of people?

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