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AIBU to question the media response to the Belfast attack?

659 replies

Squirrel001 · Yesterday 08:55

Why are the media being silent on the Belfast attack?

Is the open borders narrative that important to them that they feel the need to ignore one of the most horrific attacks ever seen on a UK street?

I despair for the future of the UK. It’s grim.

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CurlewKate · Yesterday 11:12

Ablondiebutagoody · Yesterday 11:06

Sounds like even more reason why the political class should act on people's concerns then, rather than ignore them, call them racist and attempt to sweep it under the carpet.

If this had happened in my community, my family would be out on the streets tonight.

Doing what? Expecting what?

Maggispice · Yesterday 11:12

Ablondiebutagoody · Yesterday 11:06

Sounds like even more reason why the political class should act on people's concerns then, rather than ignore them, call them racist and attempt to sweep it under the carpet.

If this had happened in my community, my family would be out on the streets tonight.

Everyone should call out evil and wrong doing whether or not it's in their "community".
Tribalism, sectarianism, nepotism etc is being introduced into Britain by mass migration to it's detriment.

MrsEndeavourMorse · Yesterday 11:13

Savvysix1984 · Yesterday 09:10

It wasn’t a stabbing. It was the gouging out of eyes and an attempted beheading. It was barbaric. And it won’t be reported by msm that the attacker was Somalian or what he was shouting.

It definitely does say he's Somalian

Littlemisssunshine1982 · Yesterday 11:14

Smartiepants79 · Yesterday 08:59

Well the bbc have it as a news story. Seems to be a stabbing of just one person with no deaths as yet? Horrific as that is, sadly, I don’t think it counts as ‘one of the most horrific attacks ever seen on a uk street.
Press and police are possibly also keeping many details unsaid right now until it becomes clearer what has happened and why. Rumours are never helpful.

Is that what the bbc are reporting? That it was a stabbing?
the man was hacking away at the poor man’s neck and gouged out his eyes so yes it is one of the most horrific scenes seen on the streets. Maybe try fb news as they report what really happens rather than play it down like the bbc

AnnaQuayRules · Yesterday 11:14

Squirrel001 · Yesterday 09:03

Read the article and the watch the video. You would be forgiven for thinking they were describing a different incident.

The police have specifically asked that people do not share the video online so please don't ask people to watch it. The police are trying to carry out an investigation

Everanewbie · Yesterday 11:14

So you don’t believe in increased sentences for hate crimes or anything like that?

As opposed to those I really really like you crimes?

Tabarnak · Yesterday 11:14

I am so sick of this.

The rabid intrusive voyeuristic public wanting to get outraged according to their own outlook and can’t wait to hear the verified facts in a way that won’t jeopardise a prosecution.

And are more focussed on whipping up political points than worrying about the victim.

I doubt the perpetrator had his passport / papers / id in his pocket, most don’t, so responsible news reports rely on verified official info rather than SM.

But hey OP, 8 mins ago the BBC confirmed his nationality, so let your frothing begin.

AmethystDeceiver · Yesterday 11:16

smallglassbottle · Yesterday 11:00

The terrorists will be from what countries? War torn ones where violence is de rigueur.

What terrorists? What are you talking about?

EasternStandard · Yesterday 11:16

Tabarnak · Yesterday 11:14

I am so sick of this.

The rabid intrusive voyeuristic public wanting to get outraged according to their own outlook and can’t wait to hear the verified facts in a way that won’t jeopardise a prosecution.

And are more focussed on whipping up political points than worrying about the victim.

I doubt the perpetrator had his passport / papers / id in his pocket, most don’t, so responsible news reports rely on verified official info rather than SM.

But hey OP, 8 mins ago the BBC confirmed his nationality, so let your frothing begin.

That is your focus rather than the horrific crime?

Littlemisssunshine1982 · Yesterday 11:18

RattlingTin · Yesterday 09:07

Yep! I think this is the 3rd one between 8-9am asking why there’s nothing in the news/media are silent… the BBC has had the story on its website since 6:42am.

Not an accurate story tho, they reported it as a stabbing when it wasn’t the man had his eyes gouged out and he was hacking at his neck, it happened last night and the video is all over the internet for all to see so no doubt the reporters have seen this video too but still call it a stabbing rather than say what really happened

Ablondiebutagoody · Yesterday 11:18

Tabarnak · Yesterday 11:14

I am so sick of this.

The rabid intrusive voyeuristic public wanting to get outraged according to their own outlook and can’t wait to hear the verified facts in a way that won’t jeopardise a prosecution.

And are more focussed on whipping up political points than worrying about the victim.

I doubt the perpetrator had his passport / papers / id in his pocket, most don’t, so responsible news reports rely on verified official info rather than SM.

But hey OP, 8 mins ago the BBC confirmed his nationality, so let your frothing begin.

People are worrying about the next victim.

CurlewKate · Yesterday 11:18

It was reported as a barbaric and brutal attack. That’s enough. I don’t want to see it-and I presume the victim and his family won’t want it seen either. And the perpetrator is under arrest. God, I hate voyeurs and vigilantes.

CornishDaughteroftheDawn · Yesterday 11:19

Walkyrie · Yesterday 10:41

It’s not unusual, not in England anyway.

Yes, obviously there was poor Lee Rigby and also this attack. The BBC economical on details but other reports said that he was concentrating on the neck area of the solider.

There have also been a number of terrorist attacks of a similar nature.

A young man I know has just joined the armed forces and they were told not to wear uniform or anything that would identify them as military out and about because it is no longer safe..

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c20xp6pgp43o?app-referrer=deep-link

A man is held by two police officers. He is near a van.

Man admits attempted murder of soldier near Chatham army barracks

Anthony Esan pleads guilty to the attempted murder of Lt Col Mark Teeton in Kent in July 2024.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c20xp6pgp43o?app-referrer=deep-link

EasternStandard · Yesterday 11:22

CurlewKate · Yesterday 11:18

It was reported as a barbaric and brutal attack. That’s enough. I don’t want to see it-and I presume the victim and his family won’t want it seen either. And the perpetrator is under arrest. God, I hate voyeurs and vigilantes.

If you’re going to loathe anyone perhaps the perpetrator who tried to behead someone and gouge their eyes out. And no I haven’t watched the clip to know that.

Everanewbie · Yesterday 11:22

I get what you are saying @Tabarnak and I know that some unsavoury characters will be rubbing their hands with glee at the chance to exploit this act.

But it was political decisions of governments of both stripes to have such a liberal immigration policy, and believe that people have a right to cite acts of violence to challenge policies of the past and what we should do in the future.

I have a frustration with the inevitable "I'm concerned about the backlash to (insert minority) community" rather than concern for the victims, their family, and their community.

I also have a frustration with people who think that chucking wheely bins at police is patriotic. Challenge our politicians, vote for policies - but rioting is not a patriotic response.

IAmBeaIDrinkTea · Yesterday 11:24

AnnaQuayRules · Yesterday 11:14

The police have specifically asked that people do not share the video online so please don't ask people to watch it. The police are trying to carry out an investigation

Why the actual fuck would anyone want to watch it?
Sick enough that there's a video out there, let alone people actively looking it up.
This is the horrendous side of social media.
Really hope my kids don't come across it. (NOT young kids, before anyone jumps on that)

CornishDaughteroftheDawn · Yesterday 11:24

CurlewKate · Yesterday 11:18

It was reported as a barbaric and brutal attack. That’s enough. I don’t want to see it-and I presume the victim and his family won’t want it seen either. And the perpetrator is under arrest. God, I hate voyeurs and vigilantes.

So would you rather everyone just ignore it and got on with their day instead of questioning why men with this capacity for such horrific attacks are being allowed to settle in the UK and Ireland?

MsJinks · Yesterday 11:24

Ablondiebutagoody · Yesterday 11:06

Sounds like even more reason why the political class should act on people's concerns then, rather than ignore them, call them racist and attempt to sweep it under the carpet.

If this had happened in my community, my family would be out on the streets tonight.

Did you not read the message from @Pureclass? You’d actually want to join paramilitary thugs on the streets if you could - I think you don’t have a clue and I can’t say I’m impressed by what you think might work to force the gov’t to do - well what ‘do everything paramilitaries want?’ What even is that! ‘Remove all non whites?’ - how do you know everyone wants this?

IAmBeaIDrinkTea · Yesterday 11:25

EasternStandard · Yesterday 11:22

If you’re going to loathe anyone perhaps the perpetrator who tried to behead someone and gouge their eyes out. And no I haven’t watched the clip to know that.

Of course you can loathe them too! It's not an either /or situation. 🙄

EasternStandard · Yesterday 11:26

IAmBeaIDrinkTea · Yesterday 11:25

Of course you can loathe them too! It's not an either /or situation. 🙄

Funny how they don’t say that 🙄 back to you

CurlewKate · Yesterday 11:26

Incidentally-Starmer and the local MP and the Stormont Justice Minister have all made statements on this incident that is apparently not being reported. Farage has typically made a political point out of it.

Tabarnak · Yesterday 11:29

But it was political decisions of governments of both stripes to have such a liberal immigration policy, and believe that people have a right to cite acts of violence to challenge policies of the past and what we should do in the future.

And waiting 12 or 24 hours for correct and verified information threatens this right ?

Conspiracy theories about cover ups begin before the poor victim reaches A&E. Rupert Lowe’s idiotic grandstanding froth- inducing letter to Starmer before the police have had time to get the guy booked into custody.

Yes, the facts should be known. Yes debated about everything and anything is our right in a democracy. But OPs such as in this thread are just stupid, IMO.

Velumental · Yesterday 11:29

Squirrel001 · Yesterday 09:03

Read the article and the watch the video. You would be forgiven for thinking they were describing a different incident.

Are you northern Irish?

Gloriia · Yesterday 11:29

CornishDaughteroftheDawn · Yesterday 11:24

So would you rather everyone just ignore it and got on with their day instead of questioning why men with this capacity for such horrific attacks are being allowed to settle in the UK and Ireland?

It's racist to have an opinion. To worry about violent criminals arriving on our shores is racist. We must not talk about it, just have a cup of tea and do our nails that is allowed anything else is racist.

The head in the sand approach does not work though.

smallglassbottle · Yesterday 11:31

Everanewbie · Yesterday 11:22

I get what you are saying @Tabarnak and I know that some unsavoury characters will be rubbing their hands with glee at the chance to exploit this act.

But it was political decisions of governments of both stripes to have such a liberal immigration policy, and believe that people have a right to cite acts of violence to challenge policies of the past and what we should do in the future.

I have a frustration with the inevitable "I'm concerned about the backlash to (insert minority) community" rather than concern for the victims, their family, and their community.

I also have a frustration with people who think that chucking wheely bins at police is patriotic. Challenge our politicians, vote for policies - but rioting is not a patriotic response.

But nobody voted for this.

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