AIBU to question the media response to the Belfast attack?

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Why are the media being silent on the Belfast attack?

Is the open borders narrative that important to them that they feel the need to ignore one of the most horrific attacks ever seen on a UK street?

I despair for the future of the UK. It’s grim.

A sect?

Where the Poles 'a sect' when the Nazis turned up on their border? Did we fight to defend them and ourselves and Europe? Perhaps we should have been sipping gluhwein with them instead and allowed them to dump us into the north sea.

If the political class refuse to deal with the public's totally reasonable concerns, then people are forced to become unreasonable to affect change. I can totally understand the anger.

Almost ten times that number and 47,000 injuries.

It's all they are talking about on Talk TV. Nigel will no doubt address the nation today.

If we believe in rule of law and due process, shouldn't we protect that by avoiding any speculation until facts are released by official sources? If we don't trust official sources, that's another thing all together of course and I have no answers. All I will say is that I am impressed with the quick and responsible manner in which officials have responded to the public demand for information, and that should help to build trust rather than cast aspersions.

I'm from Northern Ireland.

I grew up in the 80s.

Regularly people were taken out and kneecapped.

Now that word has lost some weight but essentially the person is held down and shot at point blank range in the back of the knees.

I know personally the children of more than 1 person shot dead or kneecapped by other northern Irish men.

When I was 11 a house fire was set in a local town burning 3 primary aged boys to death.

At a similar point a pregnant woman her 5 children were murdered because of her husband's paramilitary involvement.

This is 1 man, committing a horrendously violent crime in a place with a history of local men committing horrendously violent crimes.

There are more bad men in northern Ireland than you would believe, especially towards women and even my millennial generation has a disproportionate amount of violence against women and children

200 wrongs don't make a right but don't come here throwing around violence in northern Ireland as a way to stole the latest political divide. We lived through plenty on the place already.

Why would we expect more and more violence (assuming you mean from immigrants) when immigration is dropping so rapidly?

Or do you mean more and more frothing and knee jerk intolerance because we as a nation and as a species have become addicted to instant social media input calculated to make us as reactive as possible, and are seemingly losing the ability to think things through calmly and critically before going online to howl??

Yes, sadly we can expect more and more of the latter

It’s INCREDIBLY rare in Northern Ireland.

I don't think you're aware of how this is going to go. You think this is a temporary blip? Migration will fall and these things go away? Why is the UK currently at threat of an imminent terror attack? The terrorists are?.....

Is immigration dropping dramatically? We've seen net migration figures fall, but this a measure that takes account of people emigrating from Britain. Those who advocate greater control will say that productive contributing tax payers are fleeing while we import people that will will be net recipients - losing people of a UK background and importing foreign cultures and values.

What’s not rare, unfortunately, is racist paramilitaries inciting racial hatred against mostly law abiding and peaceful immigrants for their own reasons.
They’re still the ones causing most of the violence attacks in NI

And to others who have questions of my first postt

Things are different here in NI

The people planning riots are not ordinary people outraged by the incident
They are paramilitary thugs, ready to bring NI back to the bad old days.

Its nothing like England at all.

I happened to be in London at the same time as the Tommy Robinson march a few weeks ago. It seemed perfectly pleasant- apart from the message obviously

Here there would have been riot police, petrol bombs, bricks thrown, property set alight all within a few minutes of the march starting.

I live close to where one of the planned protests is tonight. I already know the damage that will be caused, because its the same thing every time - no matter what the reason.

Yes, normal people are outraged. But no normal person will join these protests. These are for paramilitary scumbags who keep our country from moving forward and leave some, mostly poorer areas, stuck in fear and poverty.

A man has been arrested on suspicion of attempted murder following what police say was a "brutal" attack involving a knife in Belfast, which saw people wrestling him off the victim.

From the BBC just now. A ‘brutal attack involving a knife’

No mention of the attempts to behead the victim or gouge his eyes. Just a rather mealy mouthed article downplaying the horror of an attack so bad it has left people who lived through the Troubles reeling in horror.

All in the pursuit of ‘community relations’ eh BBC?

the terrorists are what? I don't understand your question.

No, violence will never go away.

This is what the politicians want though. We just have to accept it apparently. Perhaps when the IMF enforce austerity measures, the people from poor countries can instruct us on how to live and help us adjust our expectations. Lovely. A once functioning country reduced to helpless poverty and degradation. And we have to welcome attacks from war torn countries former inhabitants too.

I was going to respond asking what you think foreign cultures and values look like, but as I'm typing I realised that actually I don't want to know your thoughts on this.

You'll tell us anyway I suspect. Foreigners equal something scary to you. I get it

The terrorists will be from what countries? War torn ones where violence is de rigueur.

Which ones are you asking about? Iceland? China? Afghanistan? Brazil?

So according to this thread, it started circulating on social media in the early hours of this morning.
Yet people are complaining that the BBC didn't cover it immediately?!
Are we all that used to 24 hours of constant news that some have forgotten that ACTUAL news sites have to verify facts and things before publishing?!
Unlike social media wannabe "journalists" called stuff like "I'm a Well Ard Real Patriot, Me" who just shove stuff out there, with no verification or anything and invite social media speculation and gossip with no true facts.
Potentially collapsing any future court case in the process.
But... nope, conspiracy! It's all a Conspiracy!
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Sounds like even more reason why the political class should act on people's concerns then, rather than ignore them, call them racist and attempt to sweep it under the carpet.

If this had happened in my community, my family would be out on the streets tonight.

Inventing an offensive point if there isn't one conveniently available.

https://x.com/i/status/2064267703091613894
The BBC reports this barbaric attack as if the fact "a man has been taken to hospital" is the news when in fact the attempted beheading and the gauging of his eyes is the news. That the attacker appears Somali and the victim White explains why the BBC and similar will diminish this brutal attack and no doubt blame it on anyone who points this out.

As an African I find it despicable that the standards of decency expected to live in this society is lowered depending on skin colour.

There shouldn't be a hierarchy of such violent acts, but there is. A so called "ordinary" stabbing wouldn't garner much reporting, but something like this, horrific, barbaric and involving a Somalian and another (not sure if NI or foreign born) man is different.

For a start NI appears to be quite racist, and there is a proliferation of domestic violence incidents against women and murders of same. It is a tinder box ready to ignite for all sorts of reasons, and it seems to me that an undercurrent of violent intent is just under the surface waiting for the chance to get going again. Sadly that is my interpretation, and really I hope I am wrong. The signs are not good though with people being urged to demonstrate etc. That will not end well.

And the marching season approaches aswell. It has been quiet for many years around that, and I hope it stays that way.

"It's just a stabbing, it happens up and down the country all the time".

Give me a break.

There shouldn't be a hierarchy of such violent acts, but there is.

So you don’t believe in increased sentences for hate crimes or anything like that?