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AIBU to question the media response to the Belfast attack?

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Squirrel001 · Yesterday 08:55

Why are the media being silent on the Belfast attack?

Is the open borders narrative that important to them that they feel the need to ignore one of the most horrific attacks ever seen on a UK street?

I despair for the future of the UK. It’s grim.

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Walkyrie · Yesterday 10:08

Bloody well done to the men who intervened and wrestled the weapon off him. A few awards in order there I think.

Gloriia · Yesterday 10:08

BIossomtoes · Yesterday 10:00

The “troubles”? Ffs, do you know how many people died?

Wasn't it indeed called the 'troubles' by locals? Yes lots died true, the IRA were brutal murderers.

The point was a pp said Belfast wasn't a stranger to violence by 'white men' and we didn't hear about. We did. We all heard about the troubles.

HelenaWaiting · Yesterday 10:08

Squirrel001 · Yesterday 08:55

Why are the media being silent on the Belfast attack?

Is the open borders narrative that important to them that they feel the need to ignore one of the most horrific attacks ever seen on a UK street?

I despair for the future of the UK. It’s grim.

Do you actually want the police to investigate and try the alleged perpetrator on the facts of the case, or do you want mob rule based on salacious reporting by people who weren't there? Have you ever asked yourself why you are so desperate for all the gory details?

Gloriia · Yesterday 10:09

Walkyrie · Yesterday 10:08

Bloody well done to the men who intervened and wrestled the weapon off him. A few awards in order there I think.

Definitely.

smallglassbottle · Yesterday 10:10

MsJinks · Yesterday 10:01

Well I would not be happy about the video circulating- I’d be very distressed in fact.

Obviously not, but how else would the truth emerge? This isn't 'just' a stabbing despite how the media are reporting it.

Brunchatstephanies · Yesterday 10:10

Savvysix1984 · Yesterday 09:10

It wasn’t a stabbing. It was the gouging out of eyes and an attempted beheading. It was barbaric. And it won’t be reported by msm that the attacker was Somalian or what he was shouting.

The media reports on this are an absolute disgrace. I had read 3 and I was trying to get from them what the anger was based on. Stabbings are not uncommon in Belfast.

The attacker attempted in full view of others to slit the throat of the victim and gouge his eyes out.

Is that the impression you get from the news articles?

A guy with a hurley and some other guys jumped in were absolute heros.

None of the detail is in articles.

MsJinks · Yesterday 10:10

EasternStandard · Yesterday 10:05

It caused anger. I didn’t watch that either but I’m not for censorship. If people do horrific things they can be judged for it not just in the silence of courts, politicians and media glossing over with ‘stabbing’.

It’s horrific and shouldn’t be erased.

I guess we stand slightly differently on censorship - that’s ok, I can see both sides though come down on mine ha! - I do think the victim’s family maybe ought to have a say, but I guess that would lead to imbalance as some may be ok and others not so.

I was annoyed by the manner of Floyd’s death, but did not need to view it - I do think descriptions are adequate - and after all film can be manipulated very easily too nowadays - plus it’s well known anyway that we can all watch one incident and provide many different and conflicting details on the event. I’m not sure it’s as helpful as it is perceived.

Pureclass · Yesterday 10:11

Riots are already being planned.

Numbskulls who would love to go back to the good old days of the troubles are coordinating mass protests tonight in many areas of NI.

Shops have been warned to shut at 5.30 and 'protests' begin at 7.00pm

This is a horrific crime and I really feel sick for the man injured. But these riots, sorry protests, are not the way forward.

MsJinks · Yesterday 10:13

smallglassbottle · Yesterday 10:10

Obviously not, but how else would the truth emerge? This isn't 'just' a stabbing despite how the media are reporting it.

And this is everyone’s business why?

BorgQueen · Yesterday 10:13

We all know that if the races of perp and victim were reversed, the Police would be holding a press conference right now and our traitorous Govt would be sending soundbites all over.
It’s making all the ‘Agenda’ conspiracy theorists look completely right too.

pavillion1 · Yesterday 10:13

I’ve seen the footage , it’s horrendous

TrustMeTrustMe · Yesterday 10:13

Walkyrie · Yesterday 10:08

Bloody well done to the men who intervened and wrestled the weapon off him. A few awards in order there I think.

Incredible bravery ❤️

smallglassbottle · Yesterday 10:14

Pureclass · Yesterday 10:11

Riots are already being planned.

Numbskulls who would love to go back to the good old days of the troubles are coordinating mass protests tonight in many areas of NI.

Shops have been warned to shut at 5.30 and 'protests' begin at 7.00pm

This is a horrific crime and I really feel sick for the man injured. But these riots, sorry protests, are not the way forward.

What do you suggest people do? Have a coffee morning? People aren't just angry, they're beyond that; helpless and deeply frustrated I would imagine.

EasternStandard · Yesterday 10:14

MsJinks · Yesterday 10:10

I guess we stand slightly differently on censorship - that’s ok, I can see both sides though come down on mine ha! - I do think the victim’s family maybe ought to have a say, but I guess that would lead to imbalance as some may be ok and others not so.

I was annoyed by the manner of Floyd’s death, but did not need to view it - I do think descriptions are adequate - and after all film can be manipulated very easily too nowadays - plus it’s well known anyway that we can all watch one incident and provide many different and conflicting details on the event. I’m not sure it’s as helpful as it is perceived.

There are horrific crimes in some countries rn. Iran and others where complete censorship means no one is aware or talking about it. A video is an immediate and necessary way to highlight what’s going on. It’s dangerous to say it should all be removed.

People can self select whether they view it but horrific stuff shouldn’t be erased, it’s still happening just that the people enduring it have zero recourse or help.

pavillion1 · Yesterday 10:14

It’s also not just a stabbing it’s a Lee Rigby type attack

BorgQueen · Yesterday 10:18

There should be an immediate Shoot to kill order on anyone with a weapon attacking people, it’s the only way. We used to know this.

smallglassbottle · Yesterday 10:18

MsJinks · Yesterday 10:13

And this is everyone’s business why?

Because it might be any one of us. An incident happened in my area just a few weeks ago. Not reported, apart from a few mealy mouthed words from the police on fb. The truth eventually emerged from the people who were witnesses. The perpetrator was taken away and relocated apparently.

I like to know what's happening out there. No amount of minimising by others will stop that. My son lives in London. The UK is on full alert of an imminent threat of a terror attack.

trendysetter · Yesterday 10:19

smallglassbottle · Yesterday 10:14

What do you suggest people do? Have a coffee morning? People aren't just angry, they're beyond that; helpless and deeply frustrated I would imagine.

There's a lot in between have a coffee morning and smash the whole place up and set things on fire though isn't there.

If the way you deal with frustration is mindless violence then you need to grow the fuck up.

Walkyrie · Yesterday 10:20

Btw what is a ‘hurl’ in Irish context? I keep seeing it mentioned in the articles but I don’t know!

Pearshapedpear · Yesterday 10:20

Smartiepants79 · Yesterday 08:59

Well the bbc have it as a news story. Seems to be a stabbing of just one person with no deaths as yet? Horrific as that is, sadly, I don’t think it counts as ‘one of the most horrific attacks ever seen on a uk street.
Press and police are possibly also keeping many details unsaid right now until it becomes clearer what has happened and why. Rumours are never helpful.

The attacker was apparently trying to behead the poor victim

Brunchatstephanies · Yesterday 10:21

Walkyrie · Yesterday 10:20

Btw what is a ‘hurl’ in Irish context? I keep seeing it mentioned in the articles but I don’t know!

It is like a wooden hockey stick for a sport called hurling.

Walkyrie · Yesterday 10:21

Brunchatstephanies · Yesterday 10:21

It is like a wooden hockey stick for a sport called hurling.

Thank you

TrustMeTrustMe · Yesterday 10:22

“stabbing another man several times in the head with a knife”

“stabbing” FFS

This sickening downplaying of violence against white people when the perpetrator is black or brown is really not helping the situation.

I imagine the “stabbing” still hasn’t happened at all in Guardianland.

EasternStandard · Yesterday 10:22

MsJinks · Yesterday 10:13

And this is everyone’s business why?

Politicians should probably be trying to stop beheading and eye gouging on the street.

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