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AIBU to question the media response to the Belfast attack?

575 replies

Squirrel001 · Today 08:55

Why are the media being silent on the Belfast attack?

Is the open borders narrative that important to them that they feel the need to ignore one of the most horrific attacks ever seen on a UK street?

I despair for the future of the UK. It’s grim.

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Gloriia · Today 09:51

NegativeFreak · Today 09:49

Belfast isn't a stranger to horrific public attacks committed by white people and I'm willing to bet we didn't hear about most of them.

Oh I think we did. We had chapter and verse about the 'troubles' for years.

MsJinks · Today 09:53

AccidentallyWesAnderson · Today 09:44

That’s not who people are bothered by! I bet that consultant didn’t come off a boat, neither did the carers who looked after my dying dad. It’s unchecked unskilled males from countries we are advised to nowhere near, especially if you are a woman or gay. Wish people would wise up.

Some consultants do actually come ‘off boats’ - there’s a scheme with the BMA to upskill drs ‘off boats’ and allow them to work pre acceptance/rejection of asylum claim. https://www.bma.org.uk/advice-and-support/international-doctors-and-students/getting-a-job-in-the-uk/help-for-refugee-doctors

Where do we stand in these then - run and hide, or be treated?

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Walkyrie · Today 09:53

Gloriia · Today 09:51

Oh I think we did. We had chapter and verse about the 'troubles' for years.

Yes I’m British and 34 and even then I would recognise the names of the key players, victims and ‘disappeared’ in this long and sad story. It has all been highly publicised and still is at certain times.

StillgotmyiPod · Today 09:54

Ablondiebutagoody · Today 09:45

It's far right to object to people being beheaded in the street by religious fanatics.

How do you know he's a religious fanatic?

How do you know this isn't a drug deal gone wrong?

How do you know this isn't a gang dispute?

How do you know this isn't someone seriously mentally unwell?

The above are all possibilities.

Which is why the facts have to be established before the media start reporting on them.

At the moment, the only thing anyone can say with any confidence is that there was a horrific attack.

smallglassbottle · Today 09:54

Crocsarentslippers · Today 09:50

Are we going to have a thread for every horrendous crime committed by an immigrant, brown person, or someone with a funny name?

This is a terrible attack, but horrible crimes are committed by white British people all the time.

Some people won't be happy unless our borders are completely closed, and we have a complete economic and public services collapse.

If it happened to you or one of your family you'd be happy for it to be kept quiet?

Very strange narratives on these threads. Surely liberals can't be that stupid?

Walkyrie · Today 09:54

StillgotmyiPod · Today 09:54

How do you know he's a religious fanatic?

How do you know this isn't a drug deal gone wrong?

How do you know this isn't a gang dispute?

How do you know this isn't someone seriously mentally unwell?

The above are all possibilities.

Which is why the facts have to be established before the media start reporting on them.

At the moment, the only thing anyone can say with any confidence is that there was a horrific attack.

I think we should revisit your questions next week. Are you happy to assure you likely think it’s one of the above?

StillgotmyiPod · Today 09:56

Walkyrie · Today 09:54

I think we should revisit your questions next week. Are you happy to assure you likely think it’s one of the above?

I said all of the above are possibilities. I'm not holding out one over any others.

I'm very happy to wait and see what has actually gone on.

Walkyrie · Today 09:57

If I’m being honest I think the Celtic countries have been quite lofty toward England over the years, viewing us as racist xenophobes for not cheering the thought of more immigration, and seeing it as an indictment of our ‘colonialist mindset’. Sadly, as they themselves have increased their immigrant population, they are now grappling with the issues which England started experiencing a long time ago. It’s going to be an uncomfortable debate for them I think, but incidences like this sort of force you to have it. I hope this doesn’t result in flaming wheelie bins being tossed at police officers however.

LaliqueSaltGrinder · Today 09:58

Rosesandcamelias · Today 09:51

I'm in my thirties and this is the worst attack on British streets that I can recall. I don't want to watch the video, the descriptions of the gouging and beheading is enough for me. Absolutely horrendous and worse than 'just' a stabbing.

N Irish justice minister asking people not to watch/share. "I would ask people not to share the very graphic images and footage of the attack," Naomi Long said.
"They are deeply disturbing and traumatising to view," she added.

Winederlust · Today 09:59

Gloriia · Today 09:46

Oh stop being so disingenuous. Being on a site is hardly high profile is it??

I've had the radio on in the background this morning and haven't heard a thing until I've just seen this here.

This is an absolutely barbaric attack and the reason it isn't headlined is, as you well know, so as not to encourage protests and riots.

Yes, by idiots who jump to conclusions before all the facts are known.

Alottatopspin · Today 09:59

It is reported. It is horrific. But actual news outlets don’t just report on social
media videos and junk to conclusions and nor do the police.
That attacker was clearly unhinged IMHO.

TrustMeTrustMe · Today 09:59

smallglassbottle · Today 09:54

If it happened to you or one of your family you'd be happy for it to be kept quiet?

Very strange narratives on these threads. Surely liberals can't be that stupid?

Edited

It’s not stupidity. It’s deliberate downplaying of any violence where the victim is white and the perpetrator is not. Whilst any interracial violence the other way round (victim non-white, perpetrator white) is highlighted and publicised.

BIossomtoes · Today 10:00

Gloriia · Today 09:51

Oh I think we did. We had chapter and verse about the 'troubles' for years.

The “troubles”? Ffs, do you know how many people died?

Smartiepants79 · Today 10:00

amprev · Today 09:24

Have you seen that it was a prolonged, attempted beheading?

Why would I have seen that at the point I wrote the post?
I don’t use X. I don’t watch voyeuristic, ghoulish videos on the internet.
I was responding to the ops accusation that it wasn’t being reported in the media. It was.

Walkyrie · Today 10:00

BIossomtoes · Today 10:00

The “troubles”? Ffs, do you know how many people died?

400 I believe?

EasternStandard · Today 10:00

LaliqueSaltGrinder · Today 09:58

N Irish justice minister asking people not to watch/share. "I would ask people not to share the very graphic images and footage of the attack," Naomi Long said.
"They are deeply disturbing and traumatising to view," she added.

I won’t watch but without the footage the media would run with stabbing.

MsJinks · Today 10:01

smallglassbottle · Today 09:54

If it happened to you or one of your family you'd be happy for it to be kept quiet?

Very strange narratives on these threads. Surely liberals can't be that stupid?

Edited

Well I would not be happy about the video circulating- I’d be very distressed in fact.

MsJinks · Today 10:03

EasternStandard · Today 09:51

The GF video led to unrest. Would you have wanted that taken down?

Yes I would - I don’t think watching nearly 9 minutes of anyone’s death helps anyone at all - except within a trial.

aberamagold · Today 10:03

The fact that horrible crimes are committed by white people isn't a good argument against importing lots more people with a disposition to committing horrible crimes.

We are allowing in hundreds of thousands of young men from cultures with primitive attitudes to women. We know nothing about their religious and political beliefs, which may be completely hostile to western civilisation. We don't know if they are already involved with Islamic terrorist organisations.

They may have experienced horrific violence. A history of trauma, combined with a move to a country with a culture completely alien to them, is a combination likely to cause mental health issues which may make them dangerous.

Walkyrie · Today 10:03

Walkyrie · Today 10:00

400 I believe?

*4000

JenniElection · Today 10:04

Crocsarentslippers · Today 09:50

Are we going to have a thread for every horrendous crime committed by an immigrant, brown person, or someone with a funny name?

This is a terrible attack, but horrible crimes are committed by white British people all the time.

Some people won't be happy unless our borders are completely closed, and we have a complete economic and public services collapse.

You are lost! I hope you find peace x

Walkyrie · Today 10:05

MsJinks · Today 10:03

Yes I would - I don’t think watching nearly 9 minutes of anyone’s death helps anyone at all - except within a trial.

But trials sometimes only happen as a result of public pressure and awareness. Otherwise who do you expect would report these things? The officers in GF were hardly going to report themselves were they? Video evidence isn’t nice but it prevents cover ups.

TheNinkyNonkyIsATardis · Today 10:05

My sister (white British) was violently attacked by a mentally ill (white British) stranger in public in front of me when I was a child.

Maybe be a little less cavalier with what you recommend people watch on the internet.

EasternStandard · Today 10:05

MsJinks · Today 10:03

Yes I would - I don’t think watching nearly 9 minutes of anyone’s death helps anyone at all - except within a trial.

It caused anger. I didn’t watch that either but I’m not for censorship. If people do horrific things they can be judged for it not just in the silence of courts, politicians and media glossing over with ‘stabbing’.

It’s horrific and shouldn’t be erased.

smallglassbottle · Today 10:07

TrustMeTrustMe · Today 09:59

It’s not stupidity. It’s deliberate downplaying of any violence where the victim is white and the perpetrator is not. Whilst any interracial violence the other way round (victim non-white, perpetrator white) is highlighted and publicised.

Indeed. There appears to be a concerted effort to force UK people to just accept this. I wonder where it's coming from.