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AIBU to question the media response to the Belfast attack?

834 replies

Squirrel001 · Yesterday 08:55

Why are the media being silent on the Belfast attack?

Is the open borders narrative that important to them that they feel the need to ignore one of the most horrific attacks ever seen on a UK street?

I despair for the future of the UK. It’s grim.

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Velumental · Today 15:42

Gloriia · Today 15:20

3 arrested after a night of violence. It doesn't sound like a night of violence does it or are NI plods a bit slow on arrests nowadays?

Listen
Between you, me and the goalposts

There's more at play in who can and can't be arrested in Belfast and who is dealt with in other ways. I'm assuming you think only 3 people broke the law?

Yet actual facts are the PSNI can't poke too hard, can't flare up too much. It's a delicate balance and your ignorance is the sort of thing that unsettled it completely

Lopella · Today 15:51

Gloriia · Yesterday 12:35

I was aware of loyalist terrorists as well as republican terrorists (please don't call them 'paramilitaries', they were ocgs at best). I just obviously had an opinion like most?

Anyway. Back to the thread!

Jfc.

Velumental · Today 15:52

Lopella · Today 15:51

Jfc.

Nice eh?

Lopella · Today 16:05

2dogsandabudgie · Yesterday 13:27

Of course those murders are horrific but the perpetrators would be known to the victims.

I think what is awful about the latest attack is it's a random, horrific attack on a member of the public.

It wasnt random and the perpatrator was known to victim - he'd helped him move house a few days prior.

EmeraldShamrock000 · Today 16:12

Lopella · Today 16:05

It wasnt random and the perpatrator was known to victim - he'd helped him move house a few days prior.

What is your source? Did he know the radiography who he threatened to kill too?
The victim looks quite vulnerable in his photo, obviously I don’t want to assume that he was.
He lived in the same building, whether he’d helped him move in is another story, I mean it’s in the New Lodge, you’re not supposed to be seen helping immigrants so I’d find that hard to believe he helped him move a bag in. The court case will weed out the circumstances.
Edit… so the nutcase only moved in to his new home, very ungrateful to attack his neighbours.

Velumental · Today 16:15

Lopella · Today 16:05

It wasnt random and the perpatrator was known to victim - he'd helped him move house a few days prior.

Noone wants to talk about that do they? Nor the conviction against George Ogilvy for assaulting an elderly neighbour who was recovering from a stroke. Their neighbours suggest they had met

Velumental · Today 16:18

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2dogsandabudgie · Today 16:26

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And you think that makes it not as bad as it was a kitchen knife that was used. What is wrong with you.

Lopella · Today 16:34

Velumental · Yesterday 22:14

Is it?

Because days ago before this happened, not that you'd know, masked men were lining the streets 'protesting' flanked by a DUP MP. DID YOU KNOW THAT? Did you know women and children were being harassed in the street and these 'men' have been spoiling for a fight? You've no idea what you're speaking on

Carla lockhart has a lot to answer for with her violence stoking and continual sectarian pointscoring

Walkyrie · Today 16:45

Lopella · Today 16:34

Carla lockhart has a lot to answer for with her violence stoking and continual sectarian pointscoring

What about this? Loyalist bad faith actors?

AIBU to question the media response to the Belfast attack?
Lopella · Today 16:46

Gloriia · Today 09:01

I feel sorry for you, for what you endured growing up in such lawlessness but this isn't about Belfast. It is happening everywhere. Fine some Belfast locals may be a bit stronger on the protests side of things than others, they are obviously more experienced with these things.

Try to direct your anger more towards the atrocity rather than public reaction.

Very easy for someone not in Belfast to say. The violent riots are also an atrocity.

BIossomtoes · Today 16:47

Walkyrie · Today 16:45

What about this? Loyalist bad faith actors?

They’re not masked and setting houses alight, are they? You’ve just rather proved the point N Irish posters are making.

Walkyrie · Today 16:48

BIossomtoes · Today 16:47

They’re not masked and setting houses alight, are they? You’ve just rather proved the point N Irish posters are making.

It’s very clear the anti immigration stance isn’t on just one side of the divide isn’t it?

BIossomtoes · Today 16:50

Walkyrie · Today 16:48

It’s very clear the anti immigration stance isn’t on just one side of the divide isn’t it?

That screen shot isn’t even from the same country.

TooBigForMyBoots · Today 16:59

Walkyrie · Today 16:45

What about this? Loyalist bad faith actors?

You know that's not Northern Ireland, right? Racism is international.

Gloriia · Today 16:59

Walkyrie · Today 16:48

It’s very clear the anti immigration stance isn’t on just one side of the divide isn’t it?

Clear to most of us.,

Gloriia · Today 17:06

TooBigForMyBoots · Today 16:59

You know that's not Northern Ireland, right? Racism is international.

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Jesus. It's what they're marching for surely that is relevant and the colour of their flags?

We've had page after page of sectarianism and 'it's them nasty loyalists are to blame' even Gerry 'rascists!' Adams agrees. This is yes in Dublin but clearly other people not a million miles away from Belfast not just loyalists up North are bothered by the same issues, yes?

Lopella · Today 17:07

Gloriia · Today 15:14

It was all reported on yes.

Anywayyy as I've said who gives a rat's ass if its loyalists or republicans, not me. The violence needs to stop, the family of the poor victim have called for calm. Maybe the local rabble rousers will take a bit of notice of them if not man of peace Gerry gobshite Adams.

Just those of us who actually live here.

EmeraldShamrock000 · Today 17:07

2dogsandabudgie · Today 16:26

And you think that makes it not as bad as it was a kitchen knife that was used. What is wrong with you.

Yes. That poster is on a mission to defend immigrants by continuing to pick up similar crimes in the media by Irish men, like a gotcha moment.
At one point I believed that the poster was worried about the retaliation and the community but it is very clear to me now what the intent is.

Velumental · Today 17:11

EmeraldShamrock000 · Today 17:07

Yes. That poster is on a mission to defend immigrants by continuing to pick up similar crimes in the media by Irish men, like a gotcha moment.
At one point I believed that the poster was worried about the retaliation and the community but it is very clear to me now what the intent is.

Nope

that poster is pointing out there's no conspiracy to under report

That poster is pointing out that the people making racist right wing comments and who can't decide if they care about the harm to people actually living in northern Ireland don't reflect the views of most real people living in northern Ireland.

That poster is trying to point out the hyperbole around immigration using the attack on Thai man they don't care about in a country they don't care about is just to stoke racist violence.

That's all that poster is saying.

That poster has had enough now and will be stepping away.
.that poster bods the other northern Irish people on the thread good luck and safety.

Walkyrie · Today 17:14

Gloriia · Today 17:06

Jesus. It's what they're marching for surely that is relevant and the colour of their flags?

We've had page after page of sectarianism and 'it's them nasty loyalists are to blame' even Gerry 'rascists!' Adams agrees. This is yes in Dublin but clearly other people not a million miles away from Belfast not just loyalists up North are bothered by the same issues, yes?

They understand, they’re just pretending not to.

Gloriia · Today 17:15

'That poster is pointing out that the people making racist right wing comments'

Do c&p these alleged racist right wing comments. Ive only seen most been reasonable, sadly some are all about the sectarianism. Old habits I suppose.

EmeraldShamrock000 · Today 17:59

Velumental · Today 17:11

Nope

that poster is pointing out there's no conspiracy to under report

That poster is pointing out that the people making racist right wing comments and who can't decide if they care about the harm to people actually living in northern Ireland don't reflect the views of most real people living in northern Ireland.

That poster is trying to point out the hyperbole around immigration using the attack on Thai man they don't care about in a country they don't care about is just to stoke racist violence.

That's all that poster is saying.

That poster has had enough now and will be stepping away.
.that poster bods the other northern Irish people on the thread good luck and safety.

Hmm. I’m entitled to my opinion on your motives.

IPoopRainblows · Today 18:05

Walkyrie · Today 16:45

What about this? Loyalist bad faith actors?

Those anti immigration protests are happening all the time, across Ireland and the UK, people are worried and concerned and have every right to be. When ethnic communities are having their homes burned down that’s not a protest that’s civil disorder, how can you not see this ?

mumumental · Today 18:08

Utterly disgusting crime. Those inciting hatred yesterday are also as guilty as hell of this crime. This includes the racists yapping on Mumsnet, as well as the likes of Musk and far right politicians. You know who you are and you incited this.