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AIBU to question the media response to the Belfast attack?

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Squirrel001 · Yesterday 08:55

Why are the media being silent on the Belfast attack?

Is the open borders narrative that important to them that they feel the need to ignore one of the most horrific attacks ever seen on a UK street?

I despair for the future of the UK. It’s grim.

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Velumental · Today 07:55

EmeraldShamrock000 · Today 07:50

Correct. Sadly these women stay with these men, some love them.
I don’t. I avoid those type of men, I would not marry one or be controlled. I can avoid that situation, but I can’t prevent a random attack. I cannot not avoid the person as I don’t know them.
Domestic abuse is awful. Random attacks, rape, stabbed by a stranger is increasingly common, both wrong so one doesn’t out excuse the other.
Is that what you’re doing?? Well it’s already violent after all.

You can avoid can you? You're stronger than women in domestic abuse situations are you?

That's the problem? You can't victim blame someone randomly attacked so that's your issue. Listen, women marry men they love, who are fun and kind and thoughtful and promise them the earth. Men who appear to be everything you'd want
Then they have kids. They give up work. They find themselves in a boiled frog situation where they're cooked before they know the heat was turned up.

21 Chloe Mitchell was randomly attacked by a homegrown man in Ballymena, murdered, dismembered and body parts hidden in various bins. In 2023. A random attack. Or as random as this one where apparently they were neighbours and had spoken as had the perpetrator and victim. So many similarities except Chloe was murdered not injured. Dismembered not attempted beheaded.

Could you avoid that? A local neighbour breaking I to your house in the night? Anymore than you could avoid a Sudanese neighbour doing so.

Velumental · Today 07:56

Pepperlee · Today 07:19

Why did you go just to read out names of murdered women? Killed by who ? Was Rhiannon White on your list?

Rhiannon white wasn't murdered in northern Ireland, everyone else mentioned on the thread, all those murdered women WERE

MsJinks · Today 07:57

Pepperlee · Today 07:19

Why did you go just to read out names of murdered women? Killed by who ? Was Rhiannon White on your list?

I am sorry - are you seriously annoyed on a women’s mainly site that we remembered women killed in the U.K. by men?

We obviously didn’t go just to read names - we went to stop violent thugs rampaging or thinking they owned our city.

These protesters were particularly keen on shouting about ‘pedos’ and shouting about the risks they posed to women. One of us read out the list of women killed by men in the U.K. in the last year and pointed out it is often someone you know, and that is more likely than an asylum seeker. They eventually listened even if you don’t.

Pepperlee · Today 07:57

Velumental · Today 07:40

Murdered women, murdered in northern Ireland in the past 3 years by homegrown violent mysogynistic men. Relevant for those in and from northern Ireland because the men in these hoardes run round giving it loud about 'protecting their women and children' while women and children are beaten, abused and killed at an alarming rate by the men born and bred in northern ireland itself. These men in these hoardes often have domestic violence and wider violence convictions. They are what women and children need protecting FROM

I was asking @MsJinks a reasonable question if you don't mind. Is @MsJinks in NI too? If not then you're reply isn't relevant to my question.

Velumental · Today 07:58

Pepperlee · Today 07:57

I was asking @MsJinks a reasonable question if you don't mind. Is @MsJinks in NI too? If not then you're reply isn't relevant to my question.

I don't know if you're aware but you're not in charge of the information other people share

Pepperlee · Today 08:00

MsJinks · Today 07:57

I am sorry - are you seriously annoyed on a women’s mainly site that we remembered women killed in the U.K. by men?

We obviously didn’t go just to read names - we went to stop violent thugs rampaging or thinking they owned our city.

These protesters were particularly keen on shouting about ‘pedos’ and shouting about the risks they posed to women. One of us read out the list of women killed by men in the U.K. in the last year and pointed out it is often someone you know, and that is more likely than an asylum seeker. They eventually listened even if you don’t.

I'm not a bit annoyed . I find it odd that anyone would go on a protest or counterprotest TBH. Was Rhiannon White on your list of murdered women? I'll take your answer as a "no".

Dollymylove · Today 08:00

Velumental · Today 07:40

Murdered women, murdered in northern Ireland in the past 3 years by homegrown violent mysogynistic men. Relevant for those in and from northern Ireland because the men in these hoardes run round giving it loud about 'protecting their women and children' while women and children are beaten, abused and killed at an alarming rate by the men born and bred in northern ireland itself. These men in these hoardes often have domestic violence and wider violence convictions. They are what women and children need protecting FROM

And as stated by PPs, there are enough home grown abusers/murderers, we dont need to import more of them 😡

Velumental · Today 08:02

Dollymylove · Today 08:00

And as stated by PPs, there are enough home grown abusers/murderers, we dont need to import more of them 😡

Where are the protests against the homegrown murderers and rapists?

Difficult for violent men to protest themselves I suppose.

EmeraldShamrock000 · Today 08:03

Velumental · Today 07:55

You can avoid can you? You're stronger than women in domestic abuse situations are you?

That's the problem? You can't victim blame someone randomly attacked so that's your issue. Listen, women marry men they love, who are fun and kind and thoughtful and promise them the earth. Men who appear to be everything you'd want
Then they have kids. They give up work. They find themselves in a boiled frog situation where they're cooked before they know the heat was turned up.

21 Chloe Mitchell was randomly attacked by a homegrown man in Ballymena, murdered, dismembered and body parts hidden in various bins. In 2023. A random attack. Or as random as this one where apparently they were neighbours and had spoken as had the perpetrator and victim. So many similarities except Chloe was murdered not injured. Dismembered not attempted beheaded.

Could you avoid that? A local neighbour breaking I to your house in the night? Anymore than you could avoid a Sudanese neighbour doing so.

I live in the city centre in Dublin, beside the international protection centre, blue tent city, we’ve had incident after incident. Men openly wanking, drinking, carrying knives.
Why are you using these women to defend immigrants. Poor Chloe was also let down by the authorities by allowing a severely mentally ill man out of hospital… to turn that around, how many mentally unstable men have they brought in that they’ve absolutely no history on??
It’s actually disgusting that you are using these cases to counteract this.
Hiw many Irish women have been raped by foreigners. One bastard said he drank alcohol for the first time. She was metres from her house.
Random rapes were extremely uncommon before the influx since 2022.

EmeraldShamrock000 · Today 08:08

I think you should select a county, put all the lefties and boat boys in there, let them live happily ever after.

Velumental · Today 08:12

EmeraldShamrock000 · Today 08:03

I live in the city centre in Dublin, beside the international protection centre, blue tent city, we’ve had incident after incident. Men openly wanking, drinking, carrying knives.
Why are you using these women to defend immigrants. Poor Chloe was also let down by the authorities by allowing a severely mentally ill man out of hospital… to turn that around, how many mentally unstable men have they brought in that they’ve absolutely no history on??
It’s actually disgusting that you are using these cases to counteract this.
Hiw many Irish women have been raped by foreigners. One bastard said he drank alcohol for the first time. She was metres from her house.
Random rapes were extremely uncommon before the influx since 2022.

Not using it to justify anything, I'm telling you why the women in northern Ireland are angry the men in northern Ireland holding themselves up as protectors when they are the most prolific perpetrators.

I will say it's interesting if you Google number of rapes in dublin 202 you get a. Figure but if you Google 2025 you get some spiel about not organising figures in that way.

Also Dublin has particular issues of overcrowding as well, I went last year and it's not the place it was a decade ago.

I'm actually not saying that there doesn't need to be more checks and controls. I'm saying the people on this site baying for revenge and protest give no hoot about the people effected in northern Ireland, northern Ireland is a pawn to them and the people acceptable collateral damage.

I'm talking about the riots, I'm saying the men using this crime to justify their actions don't really care about the women and children they spout off about. They care about perpetuating violence.

Velumental · Today 08:13

EmeraldShamrock000 · Today 08:08

I think you should select a county, put all the lefties and boat boys in there, let them live happily ever after.

Great, then yous can have every meathead from the 'protests' and their DUP handlers. Happy to trade.

Nanda66 · Today 08:16

Velumental · Yesterday 23:17

This thread complaining about 'lack of reporting' is literally BAYING for riots like this!

This IS the far right.

This IS the dreggs of society I referred to earlier when told 'northern Irish men are among the most respectful I've run into in all 27 countries I've lived in' or whatever.

I'm not saying all northern Irish men but I AM saying these men are there, all the time, waiting for a cause to rise up and champion as a excuse for their violence and God alone knows what else.

It's all tied up back home, violence, anti immigration propaganda, evangelical christians anti abortion propaganda, drug rackets, violence both physical and sexual against both women and children especially. This thread has gotten under my skin and I hope this explains why.

The op blowing the conspiracy theory horn, insisting this should all be widely reported and that the people should rise up and protest. And here we are. Riots by people with no idea why they are rioting except they get to go into areas they otherwise aren't welcome in and burn out cars, buses and homes. There'll be people burnt in their beds and the op will be still be banging her bin lid.

I was raised in NI and disagreed with one of your earlier comments but I completely agree with this. People not brought up in Northern Ireland don’t really understand how it really is - you’ve nailed it. It’s a simmering powder keg waiting to be lit.

MsJinks · Today 08:21

Pepperlee · Today 08:00

I'm not a bit annoyed . I find it odd that anyone would go on a protest or counterprotest TBH. Was Rhiannon White on your list of murdered women? I'll take your answer as a "no".

I agree about the protest, it didn’t seem rational to do the protest near me in my opinion - not clear at all what was being protested against tbh - plus I do think these protests should be aimed at government, not just shouting in cities.

I go on counter protests obviously only when a protest is called - I go to show, to stop, these thugs thinking they can overrun my city or, at hotels, to show we aren’t all wanting to attack those in there.

The list is by femicide census - you can find out more about it here https://www.femicidecensus.org/about/

It was in response to the protestors shouting - talking of most women being attacked by those they know not asylum seekers and then the list was read.

Tbh even the protestors went quiet and didn’t object or shout over.

EmeraldShamrock000 · Today 08:28

Velumental · Today 08:12

Not using it to justify anything, I'm telling you why the women in northern Ireland are angry the men in northern Ireland holding themselves up as protectors when they are the most prolific perpetrators.

I will say it's interesting if you Google number of rapes in dublin 202 you get a. Figure but if you Google 2025 you get some spiel about not organising figures in that way.

Also Dublin has particular issues of overcrowding as well, I went last year and it's not the place it was a decade ago.

I'm actually not saying that there doesn't need to be more checks and controls. I'm saying the people on this site baying for revenge and protest give no hoot about the people effected in northern Ireland, northern Ireland is a pawn to them and the people acceptable collateral damage.

I'm talking about the riots, I'm saying the men using this crime to justify their actions don't really care about the women and children they spout off about. They care about perpetuating violence.

I agree with you. Unfortunately, the reactions don’t help or solve anything.
They hurt communities and property.
There has been riots and protests all over Europe. Denmark burned down the immigration centre recently. Italy went on strike from work.
If the Governments were seen to be proactive, people would not be so angry.
It’s such a mess.

Velumental · Today 08:28

Nanda66 · Today 08:16

I was raised in NI and disagreed with one of your earlier comments but I completely agree with this. People not brought up in Northern Ireland don’t really understand how it really is - you’ve nailed it. It’s a simmering powder keg waiting to be lit.

There's some heartbreaking stories on local pages today of people taking in their neighbours kids because their parents are afraid to have their black, Asian or mixed children sleeping in their own beds. Children hastily being sent for sleepovers with neighbours and transported to other communities. Women once again mopping up after the violence of the men around them.

I know I was very critical of northern Irish men, my sister's are married to some of the loveliest men I've ever met back home in northern Ireland. But I grew up on communities that spawned men like these protestors so I know the shady back room chat surrounding all this.

EmeraldShamrock000 · Today 08:30

Velumental · Today 08:28

There's some heartbreaking stories on local pages today of people taking in their neighbours kids because their parents are afraid to have their black, Asian or mixed children sleeping in their own beds. Children hastily being sent for sleepovers with neighbours and transported to other communities. Women once again mopping up after the violence of the men around them.

I know I was very critical of northern Irish men, my sister's are married to some of the loveliest men I've ever met back home in northern Ireland. But I grew up on communities that spawned men like these protestors so I know the shady back room chat surrounding all this.

My Husband is from Belfast, a Catholic from NI. He is known around Dublin as the gentle giant. He is the kindest most loving person in the world.
That is heartbreaking for the children. My area has been multi cultural for over 20 years. All the children play together and the parents say hello.
I feel sorry for them.
Again? If the Government done correct checks, we wouldn’t be here, prior to 2022, things were good.

Boolabus · Today 08:35

Velumental · Today 08:28

There's some heartbreaking stories on local pages today of people taking in their neighbours kids because their parents are afraid to have their black, Asian or mixed children sleeping in their own beds. Children hastily being sent for sleepovers with neighbours and transported to other communities. Women once again mopping up after the violence of the men around them.

I know I was very critical of northern Irish men, my sister's are married to some of the loveliest men I've ever met back home in northern Ireland. But I grew up on communities that spawned men like these protestors so I know the shady back room chat surrounding all this.

It is just mindless, senseless, violence and so utterly depressingly predictable. They don't care what the cause is as long as they have an excuse to terrorise people. My female Black African colleague was chased down the street by a group of male thugs during the Dublin riots a couple of years ago. People had to let her into their houses to protect her, she had to run through their gardens and over their back walls to escape. A young female woman, yeah all about protecting women if they are the "right" woman. She didn't stay long in Dublin after that experience.

Velumental · Today 08:38

EmeraldShamrock000 · Today 08:30

My Husband is from Belfast, a Catholic from NI. He is known around Dublin as the gentle giant. He is the kindest most loving person in the world.
That is heartbreaking for the children. My area has been multi cultural for over 20 years. All the children play together and the parents say hello.
I feel sorry for them.
Again? If the Government done correct checks, we wouldn’t be here, prior to 2022, things were good.

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He's not in northern Ireland now though is he? Does he have stories of the men around him when he was growing up? And it's not 'belfast' it's sink estates in unionist and republican areas that these 'men' originated from.

It's mental brought up wuth coffee grinders and compost on their dining tables. Men whose names are known to the local police force and everyone in the local area. It's men who've grown up watching their das saw shotguns, with drawers filled with balaclavas, sent up streetlights in the dead of night by the men around them who couldn't climb a kerb with their beer bellies sending these kids to nimbly climb and hang their propaganda.

It's people with distant relatives they don't speak of who had to abscond in the dead of night after recieving a black wreath because there was word got to the wrong people of a relationship across a divide.

And now those kids are being used to sell drugs rather than run guns and act as lookouts because really the men at the root of it only want a patch a Nd money and power and it's all entangled.

And then you've the OP of this thread, pretending to give 2 boots about the people of northern Ireland and their safety. Wondering why it took so long to get news of this heinous crime. Justifying it by saying it's such a horrifically violent crime (which it is, it's awful and terrifying and horrifying) however carrying on as if men haven't been kidnapped for decades for being informants and had hairs plucked individually from heads. Haven't been tarred and feathered, haven't had fingernails removed, women and children haven't been murdered to settle scores etc etc etc. with no word of that ever reaching the UK mainland

Velumental · Today 08:44

These people must be so grateful for the protection provided to them by local men.

Gloriia · Today 08:48

EmeraldShamrock000 · Today 07:50

Correct. Sadly these women stay with these men, some love them.
I don’t. I avoid those type of men, I would not marry one or be controlled. I can avoid that situation, but I can’t prevent a random attack. I cannot not avoid the person as I don’t know them.
Domestic abuse is awful. Random attacks, rape, stabbed by a stranger is increasingly common, both wrong so one doesn’t out excuse the other.
Is that what you’re doing?? Well it’s already violent after all.

Yes I'm not sure what the pp's point is. Belfast is a lawless place full of wife beaters so why the outcry with this?

Seriously. Crime is everywhere. That doesn't mean we should just accept it when an 'asylum seeker' allegedly fleeing an awful place commits an atrocity.

We can't deny entry to nationals obviously, they're already here. We cannot deport nationals etc but this? This should raise the question on how these people get here. Whatever checks were carried out clearly were not sufficient. And please do not tell me he was a stable individual drinking tea with the locals 2 days ago.

Rhiannon Whyte Murdered by an asylum seeeker too. Ah but Walsall, I mean come on they have domestic violence and other crime too Confused

Velumental · Today 08:57

Gloriia · Today 08:48

Yes I'm not sure what the pp's point is. Belfast is a lawless place full of wife beaters so why the outcry with this?

Seriously. Crime is everywhere. That doesn't mean we should just accept it when an 'asylum seeker' allegedly fleeing an awful place commits an atrocity.

We can't deny entry to nationals obviously, they're already here. We cannot deport nationals etc but this? This should raise the question on how these people get here. Whatever checks were carried out clearly were not sufficient. And please do not tell me he was a stable individual drinking tea with the locals 2 days ago.

Rhiannon Whyte Murdered by an asylum seeeker too. Ah but Walsall, I mean come on they have domestic violence and other crime too Confused

The point of this thread was 'why the cover up, they're keeping this quiet because it was a Somalian (it was a Sudanese man)'

My original point was it's been reported more than all these other gruesome and horrific crimes committed by locals therefore the immigration aspect is the only reason it's on BBC news at all which is the opposite of a cover up.

Then my further poing is those baying for protest and lauding these men for the protection of their local people have no idea what they are praising and the horrific criminal elements involved in these protests and the suffering that ripples out for everyone from this attack and the stoking of hatred.

Which is very different to suggesting 'extra crimes don't matter'

Gloriia · Today 09:01

Velumental · Today 08:38

He's not in northern Ireland now though is he? Does he have stories of the men around him when he was growing up? And it's not 'belfast' it's sink estates in unionist and republican areas that these 'men' originated from.

It's mental brought up wuth coffee grinders and compost on their dining tables. Men whose names are known to the local police force and everyone in the local area. It's men who've grown up watching their das saw shotguns, with drawers filled with balaclavas, sent up streetlights in the dead of night by the men around them who couldn't climb a kerb with their beer bellies sending these kids to nimbly climb and hang their propaganda.

It's people with distant relatives they don't speak of who had to abscond in the dead of night after recieving a black wreath because there was word got to the wrong people of a relationship across a divide.

And now those kids are being used to sell drugs rather than run guns and act as lookouts because really the men at the root of it only want a patch a Nd money and power and it's all entangled.

And then you've the OP of this thread, pretending to give 2 boots about the people of northern Ireland and their safety. Wondering why it took so long to get news of this heinous crime. Justifying it by saying it's such a horrifically violent crime (which it is, it's awful and terrifying and horrifying) however carrying on as if men haven't been kidnapped for decades for being informants and had hairs plucked individually from heads. Haven't been tarred and feathered, haven't had fingernails removed, women and children haven't been murdered to settle scores etc etc etc. with no word of that ever reaching the UK mainland

I feel sorry for you, for what you endured growing up in such lawlessness but this isn't about Belfast. It is happening everywhere. Fine some Belfast locals may be a bit stronger on the protests side of things than others, they are obviously more experienced with these things.

Try to direct your anger more towards the atrocity rather than public reaction.

Pepperlee · Today 09:05

Velumental · Today 07:56

Rhiannon white wasn't murdered in northern Ireland, everyone else mentioned on the thread, all those murdered women WERE

I don't know if you're aware but we are allowed to mention women being slaughtered in other areas.

EmeraldShamrock000 · Today 09:06

Boolabus · Today 08:35

It is just mindless, senseless, violence and so utterly depressingly predictable. They don't care what the cause is as long as they have an excuse to terrorise people. My female Black African colleague was chased down the street by a group of male thugs during the Dublin riots a couple of years ago. People had to let her into their houses to protect her, she had to run through their gardens and over their back walls to escape. A young female woman, yeah all about protecting women if they are the "right" woman. She didn't stay long in Dublin after that experience.

@Velumental No he is not in NI. His mother moved from the New lodge area when he was a baby because of the troubles, she had to run often in the night when the Ulster terrorists arrived. His mother and Father experienced this as children and made a pack never to be violent in their home.
I know that it was common for men to beat their wife, men would be mocked by other men if he wouldn’t hit their wife.

Men were allowed to hit and rape their wife in the republic too, it wasn’t as common, NI has generations of fear, violence and trauma, it needs TLC.

I would consider moving to Iran before those estates in NI.
I lived in NI for years in a settled nationalist area, mostly lovely people. These louts are a minority.

Add on.
I remembers a black nurse was chased in Banbridge, she died from an asthma attack, the fear, heartbreaking.
My Dsis is a nursing home manager, she drives her Indian colleagues to the bus stop.
I would definitely protect my neighbours. I have called out racism when I see it. I’d never be rude to a person of colour.
My beautiful niece has two mixed race babies.

I don’t have the solution.
Didnt mean to quote post above.

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