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AIBU to question the media response to the Belfast attack?

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Squirrel001 · Yesterday 08:55

Why are the media being silent on the Belfast attack?

Is the open borders narrative that important to them that they feel the need to ignore one of the most horrific attacks ever seen on a UK street?

I despair for the future of the UK. It’s grim.

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graceinspace999 · Yesterday 20:13

@Piglet89
Why do you say this?
Are there many English people in this area and have some been killed?

Puppalicious · Yesterday 20:21

JuliaBraverman · Yesterday 20:09

This is in very bad taste … a competition for the worst violence?

The very first post on this thread tries to make it a competition, calling it one of the worst attacks ever on a UK street. My link makes it clear that, no, it is not, there are many other attacks equal if not worse - and also explains why as a NI catholic, my instinctive, prickly back of the neck, visceral fear reaction would be to certain types of people who would be attending protests, rather than the immigrants they are protesting against.

Gloriia · Yesterday 20:50

Puppalicious · Yesterday 19:33

You clearly weren’t kept abreast of the Troubles if you think the IRA were the only perpetrators. In fact, loyalist paramilitaries killed the most civilians. Ever heard of these https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shankill_Butchers

There’s a lot of contenders for worst attack ever on a Belfast street.

I'm not interested tbh if it was loyalist or republican terrorists and gangs committing various murders. My point was it was reported on, we got chapter and verse for years.

Pepperlee · Yesterday 20:50

dreamreal · Yesterday 17:50

In the borough of Richmond-upon-Thames a few years ago, a 16 year-old boy was fatally stabbed leaving a college, in broad daylight after an exam. Witnessed by school children. In broad daylight, as I say. No, people on here won't
know about this tragedy because it didn't even make local news. He was an Afghan refugee. Here alone. Nobody to fight his cause. Stabbed by 4 white boys of the same age. To this day, I can't understand why this murder never made the news. But if it had, do we think for one minute Reform - or "Restore" or whatever they call themselves - would take to the streets chanting their usual guff?
No they would not. They are only interested in crime when the perpetrator happens to be non-white or an 'immigrant.' Anything else, not a peep out of them.

The fact is, there are too many dangerous men in this world. The problem is men, full stop - not this or that racial group or any particular culture. Most sexual abusers will be men known to you. Family members even. They walk among us - always have and always will - regardless of immigration policies. Mental illness and perversion have nothing to do with race or religion or nationality. This is so obvious, I don't even know why it would need explaining.

If those Reform marchers are really concerned about 'our women' they need to accept that they themselves - and those who walk with them - are by far the greatest threat. How many of them have assaulted a woman. The vast majority, I'm sure. You only have to look at them to know how they must treat their wives or women in general. If they haven't had stints in prison, they've almost certainly skirted very close to it.

Every murder is a desperate tragedy. I hate the way Reform are only ever interested if the perpetrator fits their cynical agendas.

You seem to know a great deal about men who vote for Reform. Surmising how they treat their wives or have been in prison or almost have. Mind you the charming man who whacked a woman with a sledgehammer was an out and out leftie. You don't have to be Reform voter to be a nasty b*astard.

Velumental · Yesterday 21:37

A glider bus on fire, homes burnt out and black nurses requiring escorts to an from work and it's not even nightfall yet.

If you give 2 hoots for the people of Belfast and northern Ireland watch the northern Irish News channels, watch Belfast lives Facebook feed. Sit with that. Sit with the violence and loss that is about to happen overnight in every community in the name 'prtacting are people' and see what the stoking of racist fires brings.

Do you care though? Do you care about the suffering of people in northern ireland? Or do you only want to stoke your racist and anti immigration rhetoric?

Velumental · Yesterday 21:38

Pepperlee · Yesterday 20:50

You seem to know a great deal about men who vote for Reform. Surmising how they treat their wives or have been in prison or almost have. Mind you the charming man who whacked a woman with a sledgehammer was an out and out leftie. You don't have to be Reform voter to be a nasty b*astard.

Nor do you have to be an immigrant

Velumental · Yesterday 21:42

Gloriia · Yesterday 20:50

I'm not interested tbh if it was loyalist or republican terrorists and gangs committing various murders. My point was it was reported on, we got chapter and verse for years.

Reported on yet you've no idea of the ins and out because you got the bare basics the British media wanted you to have.

Gloriia · Yesterday 21:42

'Do you care about the suffering of people in northern ireland?'

The people of NI seem to care a great deal hence the protests.

Gloriia · Yesterday 21:44

Velumental · Yesterday 21:42

Reported on yet you've no idea of the ins and out because you got the bare basics the British media wanted you to have.

Someone said you never hear anything about NI. I said we had the 'troubles' for years disproving that theory. I don't care whether republicans or loyalist gangs were the worst, it was all reported on was the point.

echt · Yesterday 21:46

Another shit-stirring thread by a right-wing bot.

Velumental · Yesterday 21:47

Gloriia · Yesterday 21:42

'Do you care about the suffering of people in northern ireland?'

The people of NI seem to care a great deal hence the protests.

These are not 'the people if northern Ireland's these are the dreggs of society happy to use any cause to inflict violence. The people fo northern ireland I know are horrified. They're worried for friends and colleagues. They are worried for their kids. Their livelihoods. Not because of 1 random attack last night but because of the violence, damage to property and God alone knows what else that will happen tonight

They are worried about the toll on the already stretched and underfunded health service from the inevitable casualties, the costs to the fire service, the cost of policing, the putting aside once again of questions of healthcare, childcare. Schooling, SEN services. The putting aside of all the important devolved government policies that need sorting out so they can deal with the violent dreggs once again.

And you need to think this won't stoke existing secterian problems, that there aren't much more complex things at play than you can fathom within all of this. And I'll tell you what the women of northern Ireland are saying

They are asking where the riots were for the murdered wives and daughters at the hands of their own men, they are asking where the protests are for the women and children quietly hushed up by local paedophiles. Once again all those things are pushed aside for a political agenda that puts them last

EasternStandard · Yesterday 21:48

echt · Yesterday 21:46

Another shit-stirring thread by a right-wing bot.

That’s it? Nothing on a horrendous crime

Velumental · Yesterday 21:49

Gloriia · Yesterday 21:44

Someone said you never hear anything about NI. I said we had the 'troubles' for years disproving that theory. I don't care whether republicans or loyalist gangs were the worst, it was all reported on was the point.

Nope I said there is massive under reporting of serious violent incidents in northern ireland, making the point that it taking a few hours for this to reach the BBC I not some racist cover up.

Then along you came with your supposed knowledge

OneTealShaker · Yesterday 21:50

EasternStandard · Yesterday 21:48

That’s it? Nothing on a horrendous crime

Of course not. It’s not how the ‘rent a progressive’ crowd operates.

HPFA · Yesterday 21:57

How on earth would genuine anger over a murder lead to.....setting fire to a bus?????

It's an excuse for violent thuggery and nothing more.

Velumental · Yesterday 21:58

Puppalicious · Yesterday 20:21

The very first post on this thread tries to make it a competition, calling it one of the worst attacks ever on a UK street. My link makes it clear that, no, it is not, there are many other attacks equal if not worse - and also explains why as a NI catholic, my instinctive, prickly back of the neck, visceral fear reaction would be to certain types of people who would be attending protests, rather than the immigrants they are protesting against.

Same background same knowledge, same fear.

Same rage at the continued use of northern Irish violence as a political pawn to serve the UK right wing agenda

TooBigForMyBoots · Yesterday 22:00

Gloriia · Yesterday 21:42

'Do you care about the suffering of people in northern ireland?'

The people of NI seem to care a great deal hence the protests.

Yeah, because nothing says I care about my country like rioting, setting cars alight, burning a glider, 100 masked men marching through a village to attack a house, burning homes and businesses and causing £££££ of damage.🙄

They are not concerned patriots, they're thugs.🤬

LBFseBrom · Yesterday 22:02

Velumental · Yesterday 21:49

Nope I said there is massive under reporting of serious violent incidents in northern ireland, making the point that it taking a few hours for this to reach the BBC I not some racist cover up.

Then along you came with your supposed knowledge

They are probably well reported in Northern Ireland. I saw several news articles from NI media outlets when I googled.

Lots of violent crimes don't get into the national press, only local. This one is widely reported because it is particularly horrific but the occasional violent crime in Sidcup or Bromley won't make mainstream headlines.

Horrible business..

EasternStandard · Yesterday 22:02

TooBigForMyBoots · Yesterday 22:00

Yeah, because nothing says I care about my country like rioting, setting cars alight, burning a glider, 100 masked men marching through a village to attack a house, burning homes and businesses and causing £££££ of damage.🙄

They are not concerned patriots, they're thugs.🤬

Have you commented on the crime yet?

Velumental · Yesterday 22:02

JuliaBraverman · Yesterday 20:09

This is in very bad taste … a competition for the worst violence?

A pointing out of the violence suffered by the people of northern Ireland over the years and how little of it has been due to immigrants

HPFA · Yesterday 22:03

Velumental · Yesterday 21:37

A glider bus on fire, homes burnt out and black nurses requiring escorts to an from work and it's not even nightfall yet.

If you give 2 hoots for the people of Belfast and northern Ireland watch the northern Irish News channels, watch Belfast lives Facebook feed. Sit with that. Sit with the violence and loss that is about to happen overnight in every community in the name 'prtacting are people' and see what the stoking of racist fires brings.

Do you care though? Do you care about the suffering of people in northern ireland? Or do you only want to stoke your racist and anti immigration rhetoric?

Meanwhile those valiant "protectors of our women" Tommy Robinson and Andrew Tate are cavorting around Moscow, presumably unaware of widespread rape and torture in occupied Ukraine, the youngest victim being four years old.

Velumental · Yesterday 22:03

LBFseBrom · Yesterday 22:02

They are probably well reported in Northern Ireland. I saw several news articles from NI media outlets when I googled.

Lots of violent crimes don't get into the national press, only local. This one is widely reported because it is particularly horrific but the occasional violent crime in Sidcup or Bromley won't make mainstream headlines.

Horrible business..

Not because it is particularly horrific but because it fits the anti immigration agenda.

Read the thread for other horrifically violent crimes perpetrated in northern Ireland in the past few years. This isn't the most horrific.

EmeraldShamrock000 · Yesterday 22:06

OneTealShaker · Yesterday 21:50

Of course not. It’s not how the ‘rent a progressive’ crowd operates.

Yep.
We’re all right wing bots, apparently.

Velumental · Yesterday 22:07

EmeraldShamrock000 · Yesterday 22:06

Yep.
We’re all right wing bots, apparently.

Wishful thinking. Sadly these 'protests' show these hideous views abound in real life

Velumental · Yesterday 22:09

HPFA · Yesterday 22:03

Meanwhile those valiant "protectors of our women" Tommy Robinson and Andrew Tate are cavorting around Moscow, presumably unaware of widespread rape and torture in occupied Ukraine, the youngest victim being four years old.

People are going to get hurt tonight, suffer, potentially be raped and murdered at the hand of these 'protestors' and their mob mentality. Not that the wider UK will ever know because while it's northern Irish killing northern Irish they don't give a hoot

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