AIBU to question the media response to the Belfast attack?

[Squirrel001]

Why are the media being silent on the Belfast attack?

Is the open borders narrative that important to them that they feel the need to ignore one of the most horrific attacks ever seen on a UK street?

I despair for the future of the UK. It’s grim.

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It’s not odd to question why someone can do a crime this horrendous and no changes are made to the system that enables it.

That wasn’t my full argument - some people can’t be helped or stopped. There are bad and/or disturbed folk across the world.

However, a better approach to immigration and integration may well reduce radicalisation and reduce bitterness/hate towards others.

Questioning is absolutely fine, obviously. And I’ve said somewhere - not sure if it’s this thread or another similar one - that the whole system of asylum needs to change as there’ll be increasing numbers due to climate change. What’s not ok is rioting about it

But that might be to tighten checks, not burn the entire immigration system to the ground.

The police actions of last week are being reviewed and that may result in some change to process - we don’t want every police station burned down.

Yes I think a few want a system that allows more people shared out amongst countries, but there’s no way people will say ok to that when crimes like this happen.

I wouldn't have wanted to live in Northern Ireland during that part of history, no. I wouldn't choose to live in Honduras, Mexico, Afghanistan, Chechnya or South Africa either as I regard those as violent places. Persistently violent places don't tend to birth peaceful people. Look at what's happened to Sweden. That's what's happening to us. Spot the similarities.

Ok, if you accept that some are indeed bad and disturbed (your words), why do you want them here? I don't.
I also don't want the money I pay in tax being spent trying to teach these men not to rape and or murder.

What checks can be put in place for someone from Sudan? Or other countries

It was already on the news. @Squirrel001 didn't fact check before starting this thread.

The why is the media doing/ not doing... is a load of shite repeated by low information, fact resistant people. I will challenge this nonsense every time I see it.

This is post is so typical.

Because it’s immigration causing it. And I say this as someone brought up in other cultures. Get your head out of the sand, please.

Certain migrants, the stabby rapey ones, aren’t remotely interested in integration ffs.

spend some time researching and reading reports, especially from the Nordic countries, who ten years ago invested considerable resources in attempting to integrate young men from misogynistic cultures.

Prepare to be astonished that these initiatives, naive and well meaning, failed miserably,

Hence Denmark’s muscular approach to integration.

Not really. An admittedly sarcastic but perfectly reasonable response to the situation weak naive liberalism has caused opening borders and ushering in young men with a cultural predisposition to sexual and physical
violence.

These cultures are incompatible with ours. Nip off to Somalia, Saudi etc and spend six months going about your business, and take your daughters while you’re at it and let us know how you get on.

I’ll hold your coat.

The problem is multi faceted. A complete blindness to seeing the other side of the coin, where some refugees simply do not want to adopt British culture/language/practices, is not helpful. What can we do in these circumstances, to avoid such dreadful consequences to society? The binary all refugees are good/ bad or all British people are good/bad is just not a constructive narrative. What can we ALL do?

fact resistant people is a great turn of phrase

Yup. Excellent suggestions. I’d do all of them:
Deport all small boat arrivals
Deport culturally incompatible refugees with status
Remigrate everyone with no job or means of supporting themselves and one wife
Do a pretty basic ‘British values’ check that establishes the applicant attitude to rape, misogyny, beheading, suicide bombing, stabbing. Need I go on?

Which is why I’ll vote Restore

Or do some basic checks across Europe.
There was a street fight between two international protection men last year, St Anne street, Dublin. One died from a large stab wound, both the attacker and the victim had previous convictions in Europe, the victim had been deported from Italy to his home country for rape, so then he came to Ireland.
Similar a little girl killed In county Wexford, her mother had converted, her throat was cut, the attacker was a registered international protection applicant, like above, receiving a payment, he had previous convictions in the UK for rape… Can they not google these applicants or check a European database??

To be fair Australia did have a beach shooting perpetrated by middle eastern men recently I believe.

Behave

Hardly headlines. I had the radio on and it only became high profile later on.

Theres no need fo sneer and call people 'low information fact resistant'.

No well the U.K. lost access to a lot European intel when we Brexited. Sharing agreements have only recently been reset up, or are in discussion.

These things happened in Ireland. They would have had access to check.

They should have then sure - I posted this link on another thread tells us what happens https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/asylum-screening-and-routing/asylum-screening-and-routing-accessible

The media should report what they know, when they know it. The restrictions on reporting because of upcoming trials are outdated in this day and age, people will just report it themselves on social media anyway.