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AIBU to question the media response to the Belfast attack?

748 replies

Squirrel001 · Yesterday 08:55

Why are the media being silent on the Belfast attack?

Is the open borders narrative that important to them that they feel the need to ignore one of the most horrific attacks ever seen on a UK street?

I despair for the future of the UK. It’s grim.

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pavillion1 · Yesterday 14:51

Id love to know how many people on the left are starting to think that maybe this flux of migration from the east isn’t quite working like they thought it would ..

IamaBluebird · Yesterday 14:51

I’d just like to say how brave the men who rushed to help were. I’d like to think I’d do the same but don’t know if I’d have the courage to.

EasternStandard · Yesterday 14:51

LuckyHazelFox · Yesterday 14:45

It's about time this elongated social experiment with regards multiculturalism ended. How many more deaths and rapes have to happen before this sinks in?

Agree. Rn these crimes are the vetting system. There are no checks, which means someone will be collateral. Why should anyone be ok with that?

MsJinks · Yesterday 14:52

WhatATravesty · Yesterday 14:48

Picking up on your last sentence, how do you suggests we ' work on integration '? I always find it odd when people suggest this; it's not something to be forced by external factions, but something wholly reliant on a person's desire to commit.

Reinstate funding for ESOL.

Don’t allow protests outside hotels when it should be their day to go and play footie with the local teams.

Don’t allow protests outside hotels full stop - it’s the government’s policy/practice not theirs.

Don’t just hope local charities pick up the slack of teaching ESOL, talking to folk, having group events, paying for local trips.

Lots of ways to try really.

LuckyHazelFox · Yesterday 14:53

HPFA · Yesterday 14:49

I'd set up an asylum processing center in France (as the French once offered to allow us) where claimants could be properly vetted and screened before entering the UK.

A system that Reform would hate of course.

The uptake of that service would be minimal. You're presuming all claimants are honest and happy to join the queue.

Velumental · Yesterday 14:53

Everanewbie · Yesterday 14:45

Maybe if we gave them even more free shit and answered the call to prayer 5 times a day and ban everything they don't like and all dissent, they might refrain from beheading us.

And there we have it. Blatant islamaphobia. The real reason people are up in arms

Cherry8809 · Yesterday 14:54

MsJinks · Yesterday 14:49

Well if I was inside a hotel, after being traumatised previously but thinking I’d found sanctuary, to then have a baying mob calling me pedo and trying to burn it down probably wouldn’t help me feel welcome - it is liable in fact to make me lean heavily on others in the same situation and encourage me to assume all the bastard whites hate me so fuck ‘em.

Oh - I don’t know - seems we offered a lot of integration stuff to Ukrainians- don’t tell me it’s as they were women. We have done it for Kosovans as well, not all women, and at the start of the Syrian resettlement programme - we are capable. We didn’t bother with the Windrush generation and that went well for such a long while didn’t it - but hey why bother looking at what works and what doesn’t.

Show me a news report on a Ukrainian refugee attacking and attempting to behead a citizen of the country that has granted them refugee or asylum status?

I’ll wait.

Velumental · Yesterday 14:55

IamaBluebird · Yesterday 14:51

I’d just like to say how brave the men who rushed to help were. I’d like to think I’d do the same but don’t know if I’d have the courage to.

I thought that. They must have been terrified. A hurl is heavy duty but it's no match for a crazed attacker with a knife who has proven he's willing to kill. Even the people recording.

Everanewbie · Yesterday 14:55

Velumental · Yesterday 14:53

And there we have it. Blatant islamaphobia. The real reason people are up in arms

I don't recognise the term 'Islamophobia'. It is a term coined by radical Islamists in an attempt to categorize criticism of Islam and its cultures on a par with racism.

LuckyHazelFox · Yesterday 14:56

MsJinks · Yesterday 14:52

Reinstate funding for ESOL.

Don’t allow protests outside hotels when it should be their day to go and play footie with the local teams.

Don’t allow protests outside hotels full stop - it’s the government’s policy/practice not theirs.

Don’t just hope local charities pick up the slack of teaching ESOL, talking to folk, having group events, paying for local trips.

Lots of ways to try really.

Funding for ESOL was wasted. ESOL teachers were told what they wanted to hear by their students who were there not by choice.

Velumental · Yesterday 14:56

Everanewbie · Yesterday 14:55

I don't recognise the term 'Islamophobia'. It is a term coined by radical Islamists in an attempt to categorize criticism of Islam and its cultures on a par with racism.

Grand.

WhatATravesty · Yesterday 14:57

MsJinks · Yesterday 14:49

Well if I was inside a hotel, after being traumatised previously but thinking I’d found sanctuary, to then have a baying mob calling me pedo and trying to burn it down probably wouldn’t help me feel welcome - it is liable in fact to make me lean heavily on others in the same situation and encourage me to assume all the bastard whites hate me so fuck ‘em.

Oh - I don’t know - seems we offered a lot of integration stuff to Ukrainians- don’t tell me it’s as they were women. We have done it for Kosovans as well, not all women, and at the start of the Syrian resettlement programme - we are capable. We didn’t bother with the Windrush generation and that went well for such a long while didn’t it - but hey why bother looking at what works and what doesn’t.

But those programmes are open to ALL refugees. Charities offer ESOL classes, translation services, benefits advice, signposting, food banks, volunteering opportunities, mobile phones, clothing, bikes, transportation costs... You're suggesting this isn't offered to all, and the entire UK population is outside asylum hotels violently protesting, when it's not the case at all. What else would you like to be done to assist integration?

EmeraldShamrock000 · Yesterday 14:58

IamaBluebird · Yesterday 14:51

I’d just like to say how brave the men who rushed to help were. I’d like to think I’d do the same but don’t know if I’d have the courage to.

Without a weapon you would be powerless. The chap who hit him with the hurl ran to get it from his home while the others tried distracting him. Without a weapon you would have no chance.
I am thinking about buying a can of deep heat spray

EasternStandard · Yesterday 14:59

MsJinks · Yesterday 14:52

Reinstate funding for ESOL.

Don’t allow protests outside hotels when it should be their day to go and play footie with the local teams.

Don’t allow protests outside hotels full stop - it’s the government’s policy/practice not theirs.

Don’t just hope local charities pick up the slack of teaching ESOL, talking to folk, having group events, paying for local trips.

Lots of ways to try really.

What did Rhiannon Whyte do that was wrong? She was working with asylum seekers.

IwouldlikeanewTV · Yesterday 15:00

HPFA · Yesterday 14:49

I'd set up an asylum processing center in France (as the French once offered to allow us) where claimants could be properly vetted and screened before entering the UK.

A system that Reform would hate of course.

But the boats full of undocumented males will still continue.

yes we do have white violence. But please explain how letting in loads of undocumented young men will improve this situation and allow us all to feel safer in some towns/citoes.

HPFA · Yesterday 15:00

EasternStandard · Yesterday 14:49

How many people would be attracted to that processing centre? How would you deal with the demand and where would those who get a no go?

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Given the wars and environmental catastrophes all over the globe I imagine the demand would be quite high as it is at present.

There were about 90,000 asylum applications in the UK last year (up to March 2026) and about 40% of these were rejected. So the number entering the UK would be about 50,000.

I'd think that having 50,000 properly screened and vetted asylum claimants who would be able to seek work and accommodation right away would be much better for the country than the present system. And considerably cheaper than spending billions on some ICE style removal force as Reform want to do.

TwinklySquid · Yesterday 15:00

Smartiepants79 · Yesterday 08:59

Well the bbc have it as a news story. Seems to be a stabbing of just one person with no deaths as yet? Horrific as that is, sadly, I don’t think it counts as ‘one of the most horrific attacks ever seen on a uk street.
Press and police are possibly also keeping many details unsaid right now until it becomes clearer what has happened and why. Rumours are never helpful.

From what I’ve seen, it looks like he nearly beheaded the person who was stabbed. It’s pretty horrific.

MsJinks · Yesterday 15:02

WhatATravesty · Yesterday 14:57

But those programmes are open to ALL refugees. Charities offer ESOL classes, translation services, benefits advice, signposting, food banks, volunteering opportunities, mobile phones, clothing, bikes, transportation costs... You're suggesting this isn't offered to all, and the entire UK population is outside asylum hotels violently protesting, when it's not the case at all. What else would you like to be done to assist integration?

Charities do yes - but they are limited in area and funding - plus in Reform led councils some refugee charities are having fundraising events limited.

The Syrian resettlement programme was government funded - that’s what is needed. They could put it into hotels more or less as a condition. They last hotel I visited, work, albeit a couple of years back now, had one event 2 weeks hence available, run by a local group.

EasternStandard · Yesterday 15:02

HPFA · Yesterday 15:00

Given the wars and environmental catastrophes all over the globe I imagine the demand would be quite high as it is at present.

There were about 90,000 asylum applications in the UK last year (up to March 2026) and about 40% of these were rejected. So the number entering the UK would be about 50,000.

I'd think that having 50,000 properly screened and vetted asylum claimants who would be able to seek work and accommodation right away would be much better for the country than the present system. And considerably cheaper than spending billions on some ICE style removal force as Reform want to do.

Ok so how many would turn up in France and do you think the French would be fine with it?

Or would it drive a further vote to the right? They would have hundreds of thousands of people arriving if not more.

Plus if you say no to anyone they can still cross as allowed under international law.

Velumental · Yesterday 15:02

EmeraldShamrock000 · Yesterday 14:58

Without a weapon you would be powerless. The chap who hit him with the hurl ran to get it from his home while the others tried distracting him. Without a weapon you would have no chance.
I am thinking about buying a can of deep heat spray

Even with a weapon. F you watch the footage the guy attacking looks totally blank, it's chilling.

JuliaBraverman · Yesterday 15:04

Cherry8809 · Yesterday 14:54

Show me a news report on a Ukrainian refugee attacking and attempting to behead a citizen of the country that has granted them refugee or asylum status?

I’ll wait.

True

RudolphTheReindeer · Yesterday 15:07

I have to say I was surprised to learn he'd tried to behead the bloke. That's not what I would call a stabbing.

MsJinks · Yesterday 15:08

EasternStandard · Yesterday 14:59

What did Rhiannon Whyte do that was wrong? She was working with asylum seekers.

Nothing and that was dreadful and abhorrent. There are very bad people from all sectors. You cannot stop this.

I know you will now say well they shouldn’t be here - and that would stop that one - but that is just an idea we form to make us feel safer in many ways.

But what is your idea then?
Deport all small boat arrivals?
Deport all refugees with status?
Remigrate everyone without an ancestry check going back 15 generations?
Do some nebulous ‘British values’ check?

There’s so many different views on what is ok not many would be happy. There are so many different laws and difficulties around any of the above they can’t happen anyhow.

So for me violence against hotels, rioting, it’s just not solving anything but will make it worse instead - use your vote, pressure your local MP, get active but don’t get violent.

EasternStandard · Yesterday 15:08

Cherry8809 · Yesterday 14:54

Show me a news report on a Ukrainian refugee attacking and attempting to behead a citizen of the country that has granted them refugee or asylum status?

I’ll wait.

@MrsJinks?

FlyingApple · Yesterday 15:08

pavillion1 · Yesterday 14:51

Id love to know how many people on the left are starting to think that maybe this flux of migration from the east isn’t quite working like they thought it would ..

You're assuming they didn't foresee the consequences.

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