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AIBU to question the media response to the Belfast attack?

787 replies

Squirrel001 · Yesterday 08:55

Why are the media being silent on the Belfast attack?

Is the open borders narrative that important to them that they feel the need to ignore one of the most horrific attacks ever seen on a UK street?

I despair for the future of the UK. It’s grim.

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Gloriia · Yesterday 12:57

Walkyrie · Yesterday 12:51

Accusing everyone of being anti Irish (wtf) while going on and on about how awful Irish people are?

It's bizarre isn't it.

Zippedydoobaah · Yesterday 12:59

EmeraldShamrock000 · Yesterday 12:48

Wow. Such an ignorant post. WC people are not delighted that tragedies like this occur. It doesn’t give them a reason to froth, it’s unfortunate that the government has dropped make shift accommodation centres in working class areas without a care for the people living there, this is what happens.
The twin 18 year old girls stabbed with a bottle because they refused sex with an immigrant, those children 4y.os in Parnel street slashed up, including their teacher.
It’s very easy to judge from the outside. There are 1000’s of non drug user, good people from those areas, both sides.
Yes they’ll react in anger, they’ve every right to be angry.

I didn't say WC people are the issue, it's the racists, regardless of their class. Look at the church burnt out in the Shankill several days ago. It was because a brown person bought it (it had been derelict for years) and the assumption was immediately made it was to "display dominance/bring in shariah law/take over our area". They knew nothing about the man but automatically their narrow minds screamed anti Muslim thoughts. The owner isn't even Muslim
These areas will never change.

Gloriia · Yesterday 12:59

EasternStandard · Yesterday 12:56

No it’s due to the brutality. An attempted beheading and eye gouging is not what we’re used to. Nor should we be.

This!

It's the brutal, barbaric methods this animal used

Velumental · Yesterday 12:59

EasternStandard · Yesterday 12:56

No it’s due to the brutality. An attempted beheading and eye gouging is not what we’re used to. Nor should we be.

Is a woman 15 weeks pregnant being beaten to death by her partner and it covered up run of the mill nowadays?

A 23 yr old woman murdered in her home and dismembered in a bin in 2023, is that run of the mill?

A 21 year old man forced into a wheelie bin and it set alight. Not brutal?

A man burnt alive in his home trying desparately to break windows to escape while neighbours try to help only to watch him die as his murderer heads off to the next town on a bus?

These crimes aren't brutal enough to report in the UK media? But this one is.

Zippedydoobaah · Yesterday 12:59

PSNI have now said perpetrator is from Sudan.

DangerQuakeRhinoSnake · Yesterday 13:01

I'm only a few pages in to this thread but I have to say I'm amazed by some of the responses.

Has anyone accused the passersby who intervened of being far right yet?

Smh.

Zippedydoobaah · Yesterday 13:01

Velumental · Yesterday 12:59

Is a woman 15 weeks pregnant being beaten to death by her partner and it covered up run of the mill nowadays?

A 23 yr old woman murdered in her home and dismembered in a bin in 2023, is that run of the mill?

A 21 year old man forced into a wheelie bin and it set alight. Not brutal?

A man burnt alive in his home trying desparately to break windows to escape while neighbours try to help only to watch him die as his murderer heads off to the next town on a bus?

These crimes aren't brutal enough to report in the UK media? But this one is.

The vehement anger and horror simply isn't there when it's someone local. How many riots were organized for the above women?

Cherry8809 · Yesterday 13:01

Zippedydoobaah · Yesterday 12:59

PSNI have now said perpetrator is from Sudan.

Wonderful - another country with a predominantly Islamic population 🙃

InterestedDad37 · Yesterday 13:03

Squirrel001 · Yesterday 08:55

Why are the media being silent on the Belfast attack?

Is the open borders narrative that important to them that they feel the need to ignore one of the most horrific attacks ever seen on a UK street?

I despair for the future of the UK. It’s grim.

It's a big story on every single major UK standard news source! 🤷

Zippedydoobaah · Yesterday 13:04

Cherry8809 · Yesterday 13:01

Wonderful - another country with a predominantly Islamic population 🙃

Muslim population you mean? You are showing yourself up the more you post.

Lifeomars · Yesterday 13:06

Alottatopspin · Yesterday 12:52

I do wish everyone in general would pay as much attention to the daily homegrown violence against women and girls in this country as they do when an immigrant is involved in a crime.

Totally agree, I was seriously sexually assaulted by a white male stranger while walking home from work. The crime and subsequent trial l got a few paragraphs in the local media. Not that I wanted it all over the news but I am sure that had he been from different background it would have made the national media in today's climate.

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Velumental · Yesterday 13:07

Zippedydoobaah · Yesterday 13:01

The vehement anger and horror simply isn't there when it's someone local. How many riots were organized for the above women?

Exactly!

And the riots are terrifying for all! I'm scared for my family back home going I to the rest of this week, there'll be hell overnight,.I'd be more scared of they weren't all white and from northern ireland but it's scary amyway

Maggispice · Yesterday 13:08

Velumental · Yesterday 12:59

Is a woman 15 weeks pregnant being beaten to death by her partner and it covered up run of the mill nowadays?

A 23 yr old woman murdered in her home and dismembered in a bin in 2023, is that run of the mill?

A 21 year old man forced into a wheelie bin and it set alight. Not brutal?

A man burnt alive in his home trying desparately to break windows to escape while neighbours try to help only to watch him die as his murderer heads off to the next town on a bus?

These crimes aren't brutal enough to report in the UK media? But this one is.

George Floyd beat up a pregnant woman and his death raised billions for those who supported him.

HRTQueen · Yesterday 13:09

Squirrel001 · Yesterday 12:12

You sound like you are part of the problem.

That old line when some of us do not go along with posts wanting to cause further division

The man it appears was wrongly identified as Somalian and now reported as Sudanese, he has been arrested on suspicion of attempted murder, ongoing investigation, the PM has made a statement, its a critical incident, the police are investigating a motive

so what is the problem exactly with the reporting? what was so complex on the reporting that you could not understand

DangerQuakeRhinoSnake · Yesterday 13:09

InterestedDad37 · Yesterday 13:03

It's a big story on every single major UK standard news source! 🤷

Early this morning you had to open the NI page on the BBC to see it.

I noticed it climb the ranks during the morning and now it is everywhere.

Perhaps they would have liked to underplay it but social media has ensured that they can't.

Zippedydoobaah · Yesterday 13:09

Velumental · Yesterday 13:07

Exactly!

And the riots are terrifying for all! I'm scared for my family back home going I to the rest of this week, there'll be hell overnight,.I'd be more scared of they weren't all white and from northern ireland but it's scary amyway

Women's Aid made a statement last year warning against the "protect are women" protests, a large number of whom had DV convictions. Make it make sense.

DaveTheGull · Yesterday 13:10

It's not just Belfast. We had this charming refugee walking around stabbing people with massive blades recently in Edinburgh, barely made the news despite schools in the area locking down and a 7 hour stand off with police. Charged with attempted murder.
From Chad I believe. Told the courts he was 23, looked about 40.
I find most incidents outside England don't really make national news.

https://news.sky.com/video/man-carrying-knives-in-edinburgh-incident-13514251

www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c89kk0841pwo

Velumental · Yesterday 13:11

Maggispice · Yesterday 13:08

George Floyd beat up a pregnant woman and his death raised billions for those who supported him.

Did he murder her then pretend to be devastated and look for her killer?

Velumental · Yesterday 13:13

DangerQuakeRhinoSnake · Yesterday 13:09

Early this morning you had to open the NI page on the BBC to see it.

I noticed it climb the ranks during the morning and now it is everywhere.

Perhaps they would have liked to underplay it but social media has ensured that they can't.

Don't be ridiculous. My social media was full of all those other stories I mention because they happened close to where I went to school. It didn't gain the traction because it didn't appeal to the political agenda.

The idea this would be buried because it's an immigrant is so at odds with the reality of reporting of violent crime it's laughable

HRTQueen · Yesterday 13:13

Maggispice · Yesterday 13:08

George Floyd beat up a pregnant woman and his death raised billions for those who supported him.

People supported highlighting police brutality

He was arrested and was a victim of police brutality that led to his death because he was a black man

The police are not and should not be vitalities, which in this case is totally irrelevant

chirrupybird · Yesterday 13:14

Icanthinkformyselfthanks · Yesterday 11:55

@chirrupybird , it sounds like you’ve decided that this creature has severe mental health problems. That will make it so much easier to bear for the victim who is reported as being a teenager whose eyes were gouged out and whose head was attempted to be cut off.
By the way I’m getting on a bit now and this sort of sadistic attack is to my understanding a relatively recent phenomenon. To what do you attribute the rise in ‘mental health issues’ among a particular cohort of people?

The victim is apparently in his 40s, but I agree it makes no difference if the attacker is insane and I would cheerfully lock him up and throw away the key.

I am also not so young but remember the gangland murders and the IRA attacks and the mutilation of 'traitors' as well as many very violent crimes, but we did keep a lot more mentally unstable people in mental hospitals until it all became care in the community!

Maggispice · Yesterday 13:16

Velumental · Yesterday 12:45

I grew up in northern Ireland, working class in the 80s. I didn't know of a family where the dad didn't hit the mum and the kids and where it wasn't entirely acceptable to do so. Granted I grew up poor but gentlemen they were not.

Many friends and family members are married to perfectly lovely northern Irish men and still the rates of random acts of violence, random acts of financial and emotional abuse, coercive control etc are much higher than anywhere else I know and it's much more accepted.d

You know you're trying to teach me my own culture? You think meeting a family on holiday speaks to who these men are and how the culture in their homes are? Ridiculous

It's your comment that's ridiculous not mine. You could've simply commented without throwing insult, but as your comment carried no weight you had to throw in an insult to yourself.
I listed countries I lived in, not vacationed in.
Ps, men who hit their wives are not "lovely" and you'll note I didn't list Irish. You're welcome to marry from Africa and the Middle East.

Quine0nline · Yesterday 13:18

So as we are told, and know, it's not just asylum seekers, migrants and brown people who stab, murder and rape. But when they do it makes the headlines and there are "protests".

So why when a black person is stabbed or murdered do we not have a Black Lives Matter protest even if or when shock horror the perpetrator may not necessarily be white?
Jess Phillips reads out the names of women killed by men each year in the houses of parliament - how brave - why does she not lead a protest against femicide?
Sarah Everard protests ? Where are you?
A rightwing politician called for rage against the killing of a white man - where's the rage against PEOPLE being killed - black, white brown - knife crime, too few police, sympathetic judiciary watered down sentences?

Nanda66 · Yesterday 13:23

Velumental · Yesterday 12:45

I grew up in northern Ireland, working class in the 80s. I didn't know of a family where the dad didn't hit the mum and the kids and where it wasn't entirely acceptable to do so. Granted I grew up poor but gentlemen they were not.

Many friends and family members are married to perfectly lovely northern Irish men and still the rates of random acts of violence, random acts of financial and emotional abuse, coercive control etc are much higher than anywhere else I know and it's much more accepted.d

You know you're trying to teach me my own culture? You think meeting a family on holiday speaks to who these men are and how the culture in their homes are? Ridiculous

I grew up in a working class family in Belfast in the 80s. I don’t recognise this at all.