AIBU to question the media response to the Belfast attack?

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Why are the media being silent on the Belfast attack?

Is the open borders narrative that important to them that they feel the need to ignore one of the most horrific attacks ever seen on a UK street?

I despair for the future of the UK. It’s grim.

It is an absolutely bizarre question because obviously I wouldn't want to be in the middle of a war zone. Why one arth would anyone choose that? I'm not anti england in any way either. My point is entirely around the reporting fo this incident. I'm literally going to be in england tomorrow for work.

What's weird is that you can triumphantly exclaim, see. You'd rather be in england yet not understand why perfectly ordinary people like yourself would want to escape a warzone

Every country will unfortunately have violent crime committed by its own citizens. That is an ugly reality of human society. What is far harder for many people to accept is violent crime committed by someone who has been granted the opportunity to live in another country, benefit from its protections, and build a future there.

People reasonably expect that opportunity to be met with respect for the law and the community offering it. When horrific incidents like this attack occur, public anger is understandable, and difficult conversations about immigration, integration, and accountability should not automatically be shut down or dismissed as “racist” vitriol.

Afghanistan isn’t a war zone now. It has a government and no major resistance. That government being the Taliban.

You're desperately trying to turn the question into something it plainly isn’t.

So - would you rather wake up in Kabul, or London? And why?

Knife crime has increased by 600% in some hospitals in Ireland.
I saw the video. Shocking.

'And as a matter of fact I have had counselling for things I witnessed and lived through in my childhood'

Yes and of course that is normal and appropriate. Explaining these murderous rampages by saying 'yeah but no but it's mental health isn't it cos they came from a warn torn place' is just not helpful and not correct. Some people are just violent. The sooner we stop making excuses and just recognise the warning signs and arrest/section/deport the better.

I've lived in 4 countries on 3 continents. English, Scottish, Welsh, Swedish then American men are the most gentlemanly of men on earth.
The average educated man in Africa and the Middle East believe women are less than men and it's fine to marry more than one wife. Keep in mind majority on those continents are uneducated. This is fact. I'm West African and from a Moslem family. If your husband abused you, the family and government will hardly help but instead insist you must be more submissive. Cheating the system if normal. Please don't even compare Western men with non Western men when it comes to treatment of women.

These so called refugee who are infact illegal immigrants leave their wives and sisters at home then cross several countries and continents with similar language, religion, food, weather etc to get benefits and be housed for free in the UK. Is that gentlemanly or manly in any way?
A government's responsibility is to its citizens not to those invading it and weaponizing their tolerance for self interest and political gain.
Humans all have a preponderance for evil, why leave your front door open for anyone evil enough to break in? Why add more murderers and rapists into your country?

There're no jobs in the UK. Why import more cheap labour and benefits seekers?
Wake up!

I disagree with any country being under the rule of religious extremists, ideally I wouldn't wantt the UK to have a king and one who is the head of a church either. I think there is a huge amount of mysogyny worldwide and I think actually the UK do ok in the grand scheme of things.

I wouldn't want to wake up in kabul and I wouldn't want to wake up in southern states like Texas, I wouldn't want to wake up in Israel and I wouldn't want to wake up gaza, I wouldn't want to wake up in the face of the Russian invasion in Ukraine.

Religion and it's use in war mongering has an awful lot to answer for.

In balance is wake up in London, as I will do tomorrow.

However would I feel safe in Belfast today if I was of somalian descent. I don't think I would. I think I'd be very scared.

I'm not racist, 'sectarianism' anti Irish whatever that means. Fixed that for you.

What a mealy mouthed response to avoid answering a question which you know full well would embarrass you.

I grew up in northern Ireland, working class in the 80s. I didn't know of a family where the dad didn't hit the mum and the kids and where it wasn't entirely acceptable to do so. Granted I grew up poor but gentlemen they were not.

Many friends and family members are married to perfectly lovely northern Irish men and still the rates of random acts of violence, random acts of financial and emotional abuse, coercive control etc are much higher than anywhere else I know and it's much more accepted.d

You know you're trying to teach me my own culture? You think meeting a family on holiday speaks to who these men are and how the culture in their homes are? Ridiculous

Wow. Such an ignorant post. WC people are not delighted that tragedies like this occur. It doesn’t give them a reason to froth, it’s unfortunate that the government has dropped make shift accommodation centres in working class areas without a care for the people living there, this is what happens.
The twin 18 year old girls stabbed with a bottle because they refused sex with an immigrant, those children 4y.os in Parnel street slashed up, including their teacher.
It’s very easy to judge from the outside. There are 1000’s of non drug user, good people from those areas, both sides.
Yes they’ll react in anger, they’ve every right to be angry.

You accuse me of being 'anti Irish' yet this is the sweeping negative generalisation that you support?!

I have answered the question.

I'm in no way embarrassed to say I wouldn't want to live in a country under religious rule. I don't even like the amount of religion and mysogyny HERE and as I say we do pretty well comparatively.

I wouldn't survive in a country with religious rule because I'm loud mouthed and opinionated, I'm lucky I survived growing up in northern Ireland.

My point isn't any the UK you realize that? It's that there is no suppression of this story in the British news. I've looked across British and local northern Irish sites and thees no more reporting back home than here. That's incredibly unusual with violent crime in northern Ireland and it's BECAUSE it's as a somalian perpetrator not in spite of it

It’s the word “stabbing” - I unfortunately saw the video this morning - it was most definitely not a stabbing. It was an attempted beheading. You could clearly see the attacker sawing at the victims neck with a knife. There was so much blood, so it’s difficult to tell, but it did seem like, from his actions, that he gouged his eyes out as well. I wish I hadn’t seen it, but describing the attack as anything but an attempted beheading is totally misleading.

I'm telling you my experience of the background I grew up in

You didn't grow up in every NI household and to generalise and say such negative stuff is awful.

Accusing everyone of being anti Irish (wtf) while going on and on about how awful Irish people are?

Who is deciding the religious rules?

I do wish everyone in general would pay as much attention to the daily homegrown violence against women and girls in this country as they do when an immigrant is involved in a crime.

I refer you to the excellent opening statement put forward by this PP

The fact that horrible crimes are committed by white people isn't a good argument against importing lots more people with a disposition to committing horrible crimes.

You're position is fallacious: British men grow up in a culture where women are full citizens before the law. Women can go to school and university, become lawyers, judges, doctors, engineers, politicians, or anything else they choose. Our culture does not teach that women must cover themselves from head to toe, require a male chaperone to leave the house, can be married off as children, or that a rape victim must be stoned to death for adultery.

We can't do much about misogynists who already have British citizenship by dint of the fact they were born here. I've never met a British born bloke who thinks any of the above is ok. What we can do is be far more careful about allowing people into the country who bring deeply illiberal and misogynistic attitudes with them.

I also notice you've studiously avoided the question of antisemitism. That's revealing. Historically, British antisemitism was often characterised by prejudice, discrimination, and indifference to Jewish suffering. The antisemitism we're increasingly seeing today—where Jews are attacked, threatened, and targeted in the streets—is, in many cases, being driven by influences that have been imported. How are you not seeing the distinction?

And your whataboutery re the Magdalen Laundries laughable. The fact that terrible abuses by the Catholic Church occurring in the past does not somehow negate concerns about misogynistic attitudes being imported into Britain today.

I completely agree, there is clearly no excuse for a brutal and violent attack OBVIOUSLY

This is awful OBVIOUSLY

Am I worried for relatives and friends back home as violence undoubtedly errupts? OBVIOUSLY

Do I think this man should be punished to the extent of the law OBVIOUSLY

Do I think someone needs to look at his history before he came here is he is indeed an immigrant? OBVIOUSLY

Do I think this story is underreported in the British news because of the perpetrator being Somalia? No I think that's WHY you've heard about it all

So little anger and concern about the white man who raped a Sikh woman who he thought was Muslim. He spotted her on the bus, followed her home, broke into her house and raped and abused her while saying anti Muslim comments. He called her a "filthy Muslim bitch" and as well as the rape he tried to strangle her and he then robbed her before he left her home. A horrific crime that barely made the headlines in certain media outlets and not a peep out of the "protect out women and girls " brigade.

It was front page news. I heard about it, it was the subject of radio shows and was very widely shared online.

No it’s due to the brutality. An attempted beheading and eye gouging is not what we’re used to. Nor should we be.

I'm not suggesting the fact crimes are committed by white people means we shouldn't also punish crimes committed by immigrants.

I'm saying there has no been underreporting of this case because the perpetrator is somalian. I'm saying the only reason it's made it to UK media is because he's somalian. I'm giving examples of brutal murders not reported in the UK to point out it's more unusual this one WAS reported.

Anti semitism, like all bigotry is bad. I don't know what you want me to address there? It is however not relevant to the idea this has been under reported. Which is all I'm refuting. The deliberate racist narrative being built around a fallacious idea that the crime would have been more quickly and widely reported if committed by a white British man, when experience suggests the wider UK would never hear of it at all