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Does anybody else dislike Pride?

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coulditbeme2323 · Today 13:12

Does anybody else dislike Pride?

We have one in our town for the second year running, and it's just really off.

Now before I get the "don't be homophobic comments" I am very much live and let live.

It's just that it can be very adult in the middle of the day.

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Andylion · Today 13:29

coulditbeme2323 · Today 13:20

Yes as in live your life how you want, but I don't think it's right to be walking through the middle of a town at lunch in full on bondage gear.

In my city, sometimes it’s bondage, sometime it’s nudity.
It claims to be family friendly but I disagree.

I do avoid it.

Branster · Today 13:29

I’ve only come across the London based event. Several times, it wasn’t a matter of avoiding it, it’s just there, a lot of attendees seemed to be dressed for the shock value, milling around on their way to the event , very sexualised outfits busy central London full of kids with their families. All well and good, but how exactly are you supposed to avoid seeing dildo inspired brightly coloured inflatables being waved about and lots of men dressed in some sort of leather thong getups especially when you have your kids with you?
It’s not the type of visual I seek out and it’s certainly not something I want children to see and find it is normal. It’s not, because it is indecent.
There’s a time and a place for all that kind of stuff.
The festival itself doesn’t bother me one bit and I expect it is very well organised so everyone who chooses to attend have a great time.
But why do all those people choose to inflict over sexualised stuff in public like that to passing pedestrians minding their own business.
I avoid going to central London on the day of the event now.

coulditbeme2323 · Today 13:30

Andylion · Today 13:29

In my city, sometimes it’s bondage, sometime it’s nudity.
It claims to be family friendly but I disagree.

I do avoid it.

This is my problem, not what Pride was - but what it's become.

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Slightyamusedandsilly · Today 13:31

Lmnop22 · Today 13:27

Been a while since I saw someone dressed in full on bondage at the beach which I believe was OP’s primary concern. False analogy.

But what sort of bondage? Mask? Chains? Leather? PVC? Ball gag?

Most of the above can be part of any alternative clothing. I've had kids turn up at the front door at Halloween in gimp masks.

If you don't explain it to children, they won't know.

I'd be a lot more concerned about randos on the high street burned red, sweating, arse crack on show with their man boobs out around children, than a few blokes dressed as extreme versions of the YMCA leather dude.

Shatteredallthetimelately · Today 13:31

coulditbeme2323 · Today 13:20

Yes as in live your life how you want, but I don't think it's right to be walking through the middle of a town at lunch in full on bondage gear.

This is MN....bit of bondage is nothing on here.

Have have you never read the posts where some think its acceptable for young girls to walk around with their fanny flaps and arse cheeks on show?

coulditbeme2323 · Today 13:31

Slightyamusedandsilly · Today 13:31

But what sort of bondage? Mask? Chains? Leather? PVC? Ball gag?

Most of the above can be part of any alternative clothing. I've had kids turn up at the front door at Halloween in gimp masks.

If you don't explain it to children, they won't know.

I'd be a lot more concerned about randos on the high street burned red, sweating, arse crack on show with their man boobs out around children, than a few blokes dressed as extreme versions of the YMCA leather dude.

Wow, just wow.

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coulditbeme2323 · Today 13:32

Shatteredallthetimelately · Today 13:31

This is MN....bit of bondage is nothing on here.

Have have you never read the posts where some think its acceptable for young girls to walk around with their fanny flaps and arse cheeks on show?

I don't know what world I am living in.

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SnipSnipMrBurgess · Today 13:32

coulditbeme2323 · Today 13:27

I shouldn't be able to pop to my local high street because I don't want to see men in leathers walking on a lead?

You sound creepy.

No more creepy that you staring at them all red faced and frothing on your way to purchase your meal for one at Asda.

Cos if you can see a handful of people walking about on leads out of a sea of people attending a Pride event then you are either a sniper who can spot from 50 feet or exaggerating how much bondange you are seeing.

Which is super creepy either way.

Canoodler · Today 13:32

GertrudePerkinsPaperyThing · Today 13:17

Jesus Christ, it’s once a year OP. Get a grip.

There are lots of things I don’t enjoy, but I just don’t go. In fact I haven’t been to Pride many times as I’m not brilliant with crowds, but that’s a me issue.

Pride is an inherently joyful, non violent event. You don’t hear of riots, crime and arrests at Pride, people just go to enjoy themselves and to be visible.

LGBT people still encounter a lot of prejudice, and it’s on the rise again with the likes of Reform becoming more prominent. Companies who once loved jumping on what seemed like a safe bandwagon to advertise their product are dropping off - they were only allies when it was safe. I would say it’s needed more than ever.

You tell her to get a grip then admit that you haven't experienced it lately. Maybe the OP's Pride features lots of extreme fetish gear, bondage, furries etc. I agree that it's not appropriate daytime stuff.

TalkingintheDark · Today 13:32

coulditbeme2323 · Today 13:16

Yes, last year it was held in a public park in our town and spilled out into the town itself.

There were some extremely adult outfits, bondage etc, and I didn't think it was appropriate for the middle of the day.

You’re right, OP. There’s a lot of adult fetish stuff these days at “LGBTQ+” Pride - bondage, pups, furries, adult baby/infant fetishists etc. It’s a world away from when it was Gay Pride: just about celebrating same sex relationships/attraction.

As you say, it’s during the day time, and in public, which means kids are exposed to it; in fact, it’s often “marketed” as being family friendly. Most people who care about safeguarding know that adults shouldn’t be exposing children to their sexual fetishes, nor blurring the boundaries between adult entertainment and children’s entertainment, eg the now ubiquitous drag queen story time.

Most of the LGB people I know won’t go near Pride these days; they don’t feel it’s for them at all. In fact, hard though it may be to believe, some lesbians and gay men have been chucked out of Pride events for asserting their homosexuality, because apparently being homosexual and proud is “transphobic” now. Not very inclusive.

Slightyamusedandsilly · Today 13:32

coulditbeme2323 · Today 13:27

I shouldn't be able to pop to my local high street because I don't want to see men in leathers walking on a lead?

You sound creepy.

You sound determined to be offended and turn something joyful into perversion.

coulditbeme2323 · Today 13:33

SnipSnipMrBurgess · Today 13:32

No more creepy that you staring at them all red faced and frothing on your way to purchase your meal for one at Asda.

Cos if you can see a handful of people walking about on leads out of a sea of people attending a Pride event then you are either a sniper who can spot from 50 feet or exaggerating how much bondange you are seeing.

Which is super creepy either way.

I think we are miles apart when it comes to the protection of children.

Not sure it's worth us engaging we are that far apart.

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Slightyamusedandsilly · Today 13:33

coulditbeme2323 · Today 13:31

Wow, just wow.

Hyacinth, is that you?

coulditbeme2323 · Today 13:34

Slightyamusedandsilly · Today 13:32

You sound determined to be offended and turn something joyful into perversion.

But some of it is perverted, that's the point!

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insomniacalways · Today 13:35

I love Pride. We live in a city with a high rate of stag dos / hen dos . Frankly, it's been harder to justify the women walking round with inflatabale penises and men with blow-up dolls in the middle of the day - than a bit of bondage gear or my daugthers' fave things at last year Pride the dog masks. Plus we have seen much less clothing on a Friday night - leaving the theatre when people are heading out clubbing.

Cromoton · Today 13:35

Agree, it’s tiresome distasteful march now, too much histrionic over exhibitionist pathology has barnacled onto Gay as if it were part of it. My lesbian community doesn’t attend Pride any longer, it’s been co opted by such irrelevance. We think it’s time to start a march called Humility, for a bit of balance.

Loub1987 · Today 13:35

I wouldn’t take my children to London Pride, it’s a bit too sexualised but Pride in my town is a lovely event. Loads of rainbows, kids learning about acceptance and how people are different. Also a fun fair, It’s great!

I did enjoy London Pride though before I had kids, it’s a great party! Lovely event where people are celebrating and having fun.

Slightyamusedandsilly · Today 13:36

coulditbeme2323 · Today 13:34

But some of it is perverted, that's the point!

In your opinion. Most people don't see it that way.

I have no issue with people holding alternative opinions. But don't force it on the rest of us. And most people don't have an issue with Pride.

Slightyamusedandsilly · Today 13:37

insomniacalways · Today 13:35

I love Pride. We live in a city with a high rate of stag dos / hen dos . Frankly, it's been harder to justify the women walking round with inflatabale penises and men with blow-up dolls in the middle of the day - than a bit of bondage gear or my daugthers' fave things at last year Pride the dog masks. Plus we have seen much less clothing on a Friday night - leaving the theatre when people are heading out clubbing.

Exactly. As opposed to the frothing and fetishisation of Pride. Just because it relates to gay sexuality.

coulditbeme2323 · Today 13:37

Let me be clear, for those that are getting their knickers in a twist.

Being gay fine.
Pride events fine.
Marching with a rainbow flag and your "love is love" poster also fine.

In bondage gear being walked on a lead at 2pm on a town center not fine.

It's hard to see how anybody sensible would disagree with that.

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LadyLooo · Today 13:37

coulditbeme2323 · Today 13:16

Yes, last year it was held in a public park in our town and spilled out into the town itself.

There were some extremely adult outfits, bondage etc, and I didn't think it was appropriate for the middle of the day.

You must shit kittens during Notting Hill carnival with all those near naked women twerking to their hearts content.

CalmTheFuckDownMargaret · Today 13:37

First off, I’m bisexual so I’m not homophobic before anyone stops reading and starts banging out an accusation on their keyboard.

OP, you are right. Some people on here are worryingly naive and uninformed. They are defending the notion of Pride - equality, acceptance, inclusion and the way that Pride parades used to be: family friendly, colourful, creative, happy.

Modern Pride, as you rightly observe, is quite often nothing of the sort. I’ve seen (first hand, as well as second hand via uploaded footage) adults urinating on each other, using spanking paddles, wearing bondage gear, wearing strap on dildos, exposing their genitals, going topless, displaying death threats to feminists, men getting children to stroke them while wearing furry fetish outfits etc etc etc. This is not indoors, in private, or in fetish clubs. It’s on high streets during the day. If anyone doesn’t believe me, simply Google any of the examples I’ve stated and you’ll see thousands of pieces of evidence. Several Pride organisers have been convicted of sex offences, including against children. We used to take these things seriously.

Pride is no longer about being proudly lesbian, gay or bisexual. It is largely about the celebration of sexual fetishes and cross-dressing and it is not appropriate for street parades in front of children who should not be exposed to adult sexuality.

If posters are lucky enough to have a Pride parade that’s still family-friendly in their area, then good for them. Most LGB people I know have distanced themselves from it. I certainly have. I used to attend London Pride every single year.

Pootles34 · Today 13:37

Meh, one or two that may raise an eyebrow but not much different to the stag and hen parties we get running around town with inflatable willies in the middle of the day.

Happyjoe · Today 13:37

How can anyone dislike pride? Such a strange thing to dislike. Not for you? Don't go, very very simple.

Hasn't a pride festival somewhere just been cancelled because of aggression? A twat or two ruining it for the rest seems to be the way in the UK.

coulditbeme2323 · Today 13:37

Slightyamusedandsilly · Today 13:36

In your opinion. Most people don't see it that way.

I have no issue with people holding alternative opinions. But don't force it on the rest of us. And most people don't have an issue with Pride.

Most do.

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