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To think that we should all boycott the businesses of billionaires until they sort the situation of kids starving to death due to famine and war?

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mumofoneAloneandwell · Yesterday 19:06

They can literally afford to fix this issue.

Enough is enough.

Prayers for Sudan πŸ‡ΈπŸ‡© and to all those suffering across the world.

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Anarchy99 · Yesterday 20:43

I consider myself quite eco conscious but when the privileged muppets from Just Stop Oil were protesting it genuinely made me want to abandon all that.

The way to make things happen isn’t to force people to do things,

Like a PP example with Elon Musk. Say he was prepared to give enough money to the UK to sort out poverty, but then said the people who benefitted had to have ten children? Or none?

Because nothing comes truly free

WheretheFishesareFrightening · Yesterday 20:46

Also, do you realise that Elon Musk - one of the richest of all the billionaires, couldn’t afford to fund the welfare bill in the UK for one year?

If all of the billionaires have all of their wealth to the UK government, it would last less than 15 years before it ran out.

So what, together they could maybe possibly stabilise one country similar in population to the UK, but only if they also sufficiently combated corruption and improved culture so that they could be self sufficient in say ten years (as there’d need to be a lot of upfront spend to get the country anywhere like the UK is now to start with).

They have an insane amount of money for one person, but it’s not that much at all on a global scale.

ShutUpJennie · Yesterday 20:47

BatFinkk · Yesterday 20:42

Why do you post such inane threads with equally inane and inappropriate gifs?

GCSE study leave, presumably…

mumofoneAloneandwell · Yesterday 20:48

Anarchy99 · Yesterday 20:38

If you actually want to do something OP, then do something. Demanding others give away their money is a lazy option - like those threads on here from people who are angry that their parents or in-laws are well off and won’t hand over their money to them

Demanding that billionaires help humans who are suffering and can't affoed food isnt the same as asking for money from your in-laws!

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mumofoneAloneandwell · Yesterday 20:50

BatFinkk · Yesterday 20:42

Why do you post such inane threads with equally inane and inappropriate gifs?

Why are you on the thread? Find something else to do. You too @ShutUpJennie

Like, so what i like mumsnet and chat a lot - the rest of you are at it, only name changing πŸ™„

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Anarchy99 · Yesterday 20:50

WheretheFishesareFrightening · Yesterday 20:46

Also, do you realise that Elon Musk - one of the richest of all the billionaires, couldn’t afford to fund the welfare bill in the UK for one year?

If all of the billionaires have all of their wealth to the UK government, it would last less than 15 years before it ran out.

So what, together they could maybe possibly stabilise one country similar in population to the UK, but only if they also sufficiently combated corruption and improved culture so that they could be self sufficient in say ten years (as there’d need to be a lot of upfront spend to get the country anywhere like the UK is now to start with).

They have an insane amount of money for one person, but it’s not that much at all on a global scale.

And even with that money, some people would lose it all within a few months and others would accrue much more.

Socialism is a nice theory but it relies on everyone being prepared to play their part. Spoiler alert - they won’t. You can’t put the capitalist genie back in the bottle any more than you can get people to boycott Amazon and all their AWS hosting etc.

If it’s a choice between using a shopping platform to buy decent goods and have them delivered very quickly or boycotting them at considerable inconvenience, let’s get real…

Tffds · Yesterday 20:50

mumofoneAloneandwell · Yesterday 20:48

Demanding that billionaires help humans who are suffering and can't affoed food isnt the same as asking for money from your in-laws!

What do you expect them to do? How can you feed people with shares and intangible assets?

whatsit84 · Yesterday 20:51

It’s quite naive to think that money would fix this. Corrupt political systems will always exist.

Goatsarebest · Yesterday 20:52

In Naples there is graffiti all over the place saying 'eat the rich'. It's taken me a while to truely understand it on the different levels, but I think I do now. It's a brilliant slogan.
It's makes the point and can be taken literally or figuratively and expresses distaste about the rich whilst also offering a distasteful solution to the issues which, of course, will never been a solution.
The rich aren't the solution to any of societal problems. They wouldn't be so rich if they actually cared about society.

Anarchy99 · Yesterday 20:53

mumofoneAloneandwell · Yesterday 20:48

Demanding that billionaires help humans who are suffering and can't affoed food isnt the same as asking for money from your in-laws!

It’s the principle of trying to get something because β€˜it’s not fair’ that someone has more than you.

Life isn’t fair. The human race is warmongering and selfish. People make stupid choices in their lives.

No amount of money can cure that.

38thparallel · Yesterday 20:53

@user1471453601
How would you like to pay under 4% of your pay in income tax? this is how much Amazon pays on its UK profits in the UK.
does that sound reasonable to you?

What is your solution to make Amazon pay more tax?

Tffds · Yesterday 20:55

Billionaires help create wealth and help employ lots of people who can feed their family.

MH relative is a SWE at Amazon.

Tffds · Yesterday 20:56

Amazon actually do pay tax here. They pay plenty. Any they "avoid" is invested back in to improve the company.

Anarchy99 · Yesterday 20:58

Goatsarebest · Yesterday 20:52

In Naples there is graffiti all over the place saying 'eat the rich'. It's taken me a while to truely understand it on the different levels, but I think I do now. It's a brilliant slogan.
It's makes the point and can be taken literally or figuratively and expresses distaste about the rich whilst also offering a distasteful solution to the issues which, of course, will never been a solution.
The rich aren't the solution to any of societal problems. They wouldn't be so rich if they actually cared about society.

It’s human nature though. If they have amassed a fortune then what’s the point if they are then made to give it away to help people who will be in exactly the same position in a few years?

If everyone on the planet all boycotted Amazon (including all the other services they provide), Bezos could close up shop, sit on his billions and the only ones who suffer are the people that rely on the company to make living (call centres, warehouses, third party sellers etc.

Boycotts for the reason suggested here don’t work.

ChardonnaysBeastlyCat · Yesterday 21:00

mumofoneAloneandwell · Yesterday 20:48

Demanding that billionaires help humans who are suffering and can't affoed food isnt the same as asking for money from your in-laws!

How is it different?

Same tantrum.

rwalker · Yesterday 21:01

mumofoneAloneandwell · Yesterday 19:25

I'm not. How can I boycott something that is (or will at some point be deemed) a human right?! I'm not telling anyone to boycott water or food or heating or their cars

But, being serious, I would love an organised boycott of several products to make the point that the billionaires can sort this and are choosing not to.

Side note - I know youre trying to get rid of me, but me and my gifs are going nowhere!!

The internet isn’t a human right

DreamyScroller · Yesterday 21:02

Sorry OP, you sound like me at thirteen before I had any clue about how the world works.

hahabahbag · Yesterday 21:02

Bill gates is giving away most of his money to benefit the poorest in society (eg malaria vaccines) but famine is mostly political unrest related to be honest

Anarchy99 · Yesterday 21:03

We will all do what we always do - try to get through life as well as we can and understand that compassion fatigue is real and not lose sleep over things that will never change.

Anarchy99 · Yesterday 21:04

DreamyScroller · Yesterday 21:02

Sorry OP, you sound like me at thirteen before I had any clue about how the world works.

😬😬😬😬 Yes - I used to have all the answers too 🀣

Takoneko · Yesterday 21:04

I think we’re now at a stage where it is essentially impossible to boycott Amazon anyway. You might be able to avoid buying stuff from Amazon directly, but good luck functioning in society without using AWS. They run a significant portion of the internet.

mumofoneAloneandwell · Yesterday 21:05

DreamyScroller · Yesterday 21:02

Sorry OP, you sound like me at thirteen before I had any clue about how the world works.

I'm not saying I have the answers

But the belief that its absurd that we have billionaires when such poverty exists doesnt make me 12 years old.

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hattie43 · Yesterday 21:05

mumofoneAloneandwell · Yesterday 19:38

Me unwatching my own thread because you lot defend billionaires too much πŸ™„πŸ™„

Can't even start a bloody uprising without people trying to get me off the internet.

When the purge comes, i'll be remembering some of these usernames, sorry πŸ€·β€β™€οΈπŸ€·β€β™€οΈ

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Genuinely, I do think that something can be done. Just like something can be done to eradicate poverty in the UK, by as taxing big companies, restricting BTL and stopping the sale of council land. Just like it isnt being done so as not to 'scare the big companies away' or 'interfere in the economy'.

Its unfortunate that some billionaires just aren't arsed about seeing babies sob on itv news.

It just depends on how you see the world, I guess.

Are you drinking

ACynicalDad · Yesterday 21:06

For this, read Gambling on Development and the Bottom Billion; both are great books. Aid only gets you so far in development; a huge part of it is down to the local elite not capturing the institutions and deciding they will do better by being the people who ensure that the institutions and the rule of law are working. The richest can do some good - see Bill Gates - but with all his money, they have only got so far.

Foofedifiknow · Yesterday 21:06

Gabriel Zucman has interesting ideas around taxing wealth not work.
he proposes a 2% wealth tax with debate over starting level but he gives an example of 100 million dollars worth of wealth. Their wealth would continue to grow eg at 8% per annum rather than 10% and the tax yielded could fund civic society and health Service . He makes argument that they didn’t create the wealth from nothing - they’re a product of and benefit from society.